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Title: I've just had a sit in a brand new performance saloon.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 24 February 2018, 17:12:05
The salesman said he can arrange a test drive if I'd like.

  Not cheap at £41000  but comes with almost everything as standard. I was quite impressed. :)
Title: Re: I've just had a sit in a brand new performance saloon.
Post by: STEMO on 24 February 2018, 17:49:37
The salesman said he can arrange a test drive if I'd like.

  Not cheap at £41000  but comes with almost everything as standard. I was quite impressed. :)
Ah...the new astra 2.0 diesel with all the toys. Nice.
Title: Re: I've just had a sit in a brand new performance saloon.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 24 February 2018, 17:53:20
Now he's realised how well appointed a Mondeo Titanium X is....  ;)

He's right about one thing though, £41000 for a Mondeo aint cheap!  :o  :)
Title: Re: I've just had a sit in a brand new performance saloon.
Post by: STEMO on 24 February 2018, 17:56:12
Now he's realised how well appointed a Mondeo Titanium X is....  ;)

He's right about one thing though, £41000 for a Mondeo aint cheap!  :o  :)
Yes, but you get a lot of car for your money, and you're not considered to be having a mid-life crisis like if you buy, say, a jag.
Title: Re: I've just had a sit in a brand new performance saloon.
Post by: henryd on 24 February 2018, 18:02:55
The salesman said he can arrange a test drive if I'd like.

  Not cheap at £41000  but comes with almost everything as standard. I was quite impressed. :)

Kia Stinger ??
Title: Re: I've just had a sit in a brand new performance saloon.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 24 February 2018, 18:15:04
The salesman said he can arrange a test drive if I'd like.

  Not cheap at £41000  but comes with almost everything as standard. I was quite impressed. :)

Kia Stinger ??

Henry.......once again you have proved yourself smarter than the average OOFer. Spot on. :y

A surprisingly impressive car and for those who don't care about badge snobbery one worthy of consideration.
Title: Re: I've just had a sit in a brand new performance saloon.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 24 February 2018, 18:17:16
Now he's realised how well appointed a Mondeo Titanium X is....  ;)

He's right about one thing though, £41000 for a Mondeo aint cheap!  :o  :)

Does a Titty X really cost £41000 at MRRP? :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: I've just had a sit in a brand new performance saloon.
Post by: tunnie on 24 February 2018, 18:28:54
The salesman said he can arrange a test drive if I'd like.

  Not cheap at £41000  but comes with almost everything as standard. I was quite impressed. :)

Kia Stinger ??

Henry.......once again you have proved yourself smarter than the average OOFer. Spot on. :y

A surprisingly impressive car and for those who don't care about badge snobbery one worthy of consideration.

One to watch closely on depreciation  :)
Title: Re: I've just had a sit in a brand new performance saloon.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 24 February 2018, 18:34:39
The salesman said he can arrange a test drive if I'd like.

  Not cheap at £41000  but comes with almost everything as standard. I was quite impressed. :)

Kia Stinger ??

Henry.......once again you have proved yourself smarter than the average OOFer. Spot on. :y

A surprisingly impressive car and for those who don't care about badge snobbery one worthy of consideration.

One to watch closely on depreciation  :)

Yep.....the list of standard equipment is a million miles from what Audi or BMW offer. To spec 'Ze Germans' to the same level you'd probably need another £10000.

Service interval seems to be left over from the seventies though.........every 6 months or 6000 miles. :-\
Title: Re: I've just had a sit in a brand new performance saloon.
Post by: Viral_Jim on 24 February 2018, 19:40:57
Yes, it’ll be a race between that and the Skoda superb 280PS to see which is the biggest depreciation disaster  ;D
Title: Re: I've just had a sit in a brand new performance saloon.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 24 February 2018, 19:53:20
Yes, it’ll be a race between that and the Skoda superb 280PS to see which is the biggest depreciation disaster  ;D

 Depreciation opportunity, Jimmy. :y
Title: Re: I've just had a sit in a brand new performance saloon.
Post by: STEMO on 24 February 2018, 20:00:01
Yes, it’ll be a race between that and the Skoda superb 280PS to see which is the biggest depreciation disaster  ;D

 Depreciation opportunity, Jimmy. :y
You're lucky to live in a part of the country where such cars are feasible, Opti. Spare a thought for people who live in densely populated areas, they would be of no use at all.
Title: Re: I've just had a sit in a brand new performance saloon.
Post by: tunnie on 24 February 2018, 20:02:33
Yes, it’ll be a race between that and the Skoda superb 280PS to see which is the biggest depreciation disaster  ;D

Is Skoda 4 wheel drive? Normally FWD platform.

Stinger stands out as it’s RWD, hopefully they have tuned it to British roads and softer ride.

BMW M Sport is way, way too firm for me. Car share buddy’s 235iM finds bumps on a normally silky smooth road.
Title: Re: I've just had a sit in a brand new performance saloon.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 24 February 2018, 20:07:36
Yes, it’ll be a race between that and the Skoda superb 280PS to see which is the biggest depreciation disaster  ;D

Is Skoda 4 wheel drive? Normally FWD platform.

Stinger stands out as it’s RWD, hopefully they have tuned it to British roads and softer ride.

BMW M Sport is way, way too firm for me. Car share buddy’s 235iM finds bumps on a normally silky smooth road.
Superb* is essentially a fwd with Haldex coupling to the back wheels... At least the 4x4 Insignia has a 60/40 rear bias in sports mode ::)

*Ever an oxymoron, especially as it's simply a long wheel base wide body Golf :-X

The 3.6 petrol also sounds rough as a badgers arse when idling due to the whole high pressure common rail set up :-X
Title: Re: I've just had a sit in a brand new performance saloon.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 24 February 2018, 20:50:37
£41k for a Kia ??? !!!! that will be rarer than a Bugatti Royale in 10 years time. They will sell 7 of them. Two will be written off and four will fall apart or rust away.  :D
Title: Re: I've just had a sit in a brand new performance saloon.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 24 February 2018, 22:27:55
£41k for a Kia ??? !!!! that will be rarer than a Bugatti Royale in 10 years time. They will sell 7 of them. Two will be written off and four will fall apart or rust away.  :D

Similar to the amount you've spent on your Omega in the last couple of years. :D
Title: Re: I've just had a sit in a brand new performance saloon.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 24 February 2018, 22:53:59
Not quite, although I will admit to approx. £1600, not including purchase price. Which reminds me, I was thinking today that I  might just stick a new pair of Bilsteins on the front soon. And then will have to fork out for four wheel alignment - again.  ::) :D
Title: Re: I've just had a sit in a brand new performance saloon.
Post by: Viral_Jim on 24 February 2018, 23:00:23
Is Skoda 4 wheel drive? Normally FWD platform.


Yeah, I *think* its only on the 280ps 2.0 petrol and the 190ps 2.0 diesel. Personally I found it extremely refined and very comfortable when I was in it, although being only a passenger and it being a 150ps diesel, I can't comment on driving dynamics.

The L&K 280ps cost over £36k new, seen a couple of 2016 examples at just over £20k  :o

BMW M Sport is way, way too firm for me. Car share buddy’s 235iM finds bumps on a normally silky smooth road.

Yes, it is hard, I think its compounded by the total lack of give in the seats. Given the mileage I do now, I would have had to trade the M140i if I still had it. If only for the good of my spine!
Title: Re: I've just had a sit in a brand new performance saloon.
Post by: Rods2 on 25 February 2018, 03:16:13
Yes, it’ll be a race between that and the Skoda superb 280PS to see which is the biggest depreciation disaster  ;D

Is Skoda 4 wheel drive? Normally FWD platform.

Stinger stands out as it’s RWD, hopefully they have tuned it to British roads and softer ride.

BMW M Sport is way, way too firm for me. Car share buddy’s 235iM finds bumps on a normally silky smooth road.

Same with a friend's spine jarring Audi, great for the first 2 miles until the novelty wore off and then a pain. :(
Title: Re: I've just had a sit in a brand new performance saloon.
Post by: henryd on 25 February 2018, 11:31:45
The salesman said he can arrange a test drive if I'd like.

  Not cheap at £41000  but comes with almost everything as standard. I was quite impressed. :)

Kia Stinger ??

Henry.......once again you have proved yourself smarter than the average OOFer. Spot on. :y

A surprisingly impressive car and for those who don't care about badge snobbery one worthy of consideration.

I would,but only after its taken the hit money wise :y
Title: Re: I've just had a sit in a brand new performance saloon.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 25 February 2018, 11:41:57
The salesman said he can arrange a test drive if I'd like.

  Not cheap at £41000  but comes with almost everything as standard. I was quite impressed. :)

Kia Stinger ??

Henry.......once again you have proved yourself smarter than the average OOFer. Spot on. :y

A surprisingly impressive car and for those who don't care about badge snobbery one worthy of consideration.

I would,but only after its taken the hit money wise :y

I wonder what a 12 month old example would fetch?

Kia say residuals will be better than it's German rivals......but they would say that, wouldn't they.
Title: Re: I've just had a sit in a brand new performance saloon.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 25 February 2018, 14:36:32
Look at the lease rates for an indication of the residuals...

The cheaper the rates the better the residuals are... traditional company cars being the notable exception as fleets can buy them for significantly less than retail.
Title: Re: I've just had a sit in a brand new performance saloon.
Post by: Mr Gav on 27 February 2018, 13:09:03
The salesman said he can arrange a test drive if I'd like.

  Not cheap at £41000  but comes with almost everything as standard. I was quite impressed. :)

Kia Stinger ??

Henry.......once again you have proved yourself smarter than the average OOFer. Spot on. :y

A surprisingly impressive car and for those who don't care about badge snobbery one worthy of consideration.

One to watch closely on depreciation  :)

Yep.....the list of standard equipment is a million miles from what Audi or BMW offer. To spec 'Ze Germans' to the same level you'd probably need another £10000.

Service interval seems to be left over from the seventies though.........every 6 months or 6000 miles. :-\

Nothing wrong with that M`lud, I`m not a fan of these extended service intervals, you can`t beat regular oil changes  :y
Title: Re: I've just had a sit in a brand new performance saloon.
Post by: Nick W on 27 February 2018, 15:44:02
The salesman said he can arrange a test drive if I'd like.

  Not cheap at £41000  but comes with almost everything as standard. I was quite impressed. :)

Kia Stinger ??

Henry.......once again you have proved yourself smarter than the average OOFer. Spot on. :y

A surprisingly impressive car and for those who don't care about badge snobbery one worthy of consideration.

One to watch closely on depreciation  :)


Yes. The one that they actually sell.
Title: Re: I've just had a sit in a brand new performance saloon.
Post by: tunnie on 27 February 2018, 16:20:22
The salesman said he can arrange a test drive if I'd like.

  Not cheap at £41000  but comes with almost everything as standard. I was quite impressed. :)

Kia Stinger ??

Henry.......once again you have proved yourself smarter than the average OOFer. Spot on. :y

A surprisingly impressive car and for those who don't care about badge snobbery one worthy of consideration.

One to watch closely on depreciation  :)


Yes. The one that they actually sell.

But the big V6 one, I bet they only sell a handful.  :(
Title: Re: I've just had a sit in a brand new performance saloon.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 28 February 2018, 09:07:13
The Hyundai/Genesis G80 should give a clear idea of residuals... £51k new, three years old and it's down to £18k :o and it's not a hatchback ::)