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[Mr.OmegaMan]

What is your 0-60mph time in your Omega.. Just curious.. So i can compare. ?

Been trying to find out the true 0-60 times on my Omega's... Next best thing to a rolling road, Well more fun anyway's..

These where done in the exact same pieces of road for the 2.2/3.2 flattish.. Both had "Sports" mode engaged...

Had someone make a few video's so i could check on computer.

Did 2 videos with the 2.2 1st 10.0 Seconds roughly 2nd 11.0 seconds so i would say average 10.5 Sec ? .. It's running 235/45/17 not the 16" it should have...

Did 3 videos with the 3.2 1st 7.0 Seconds roughly 2nd 8.0 Seconds 3rd 6.0 Seconds, Average 7.0/7.5 say...

Presuming I've calculated these correctly, I'm pretty pleased with those figures.. Well not the 2.2 so much.   

[Webby the Bear]

What is your 0-60mph time in your Omega.. Just curious.. So i can compare. ?

very slow 

ive tried to test this out of curiosity.... buggered if I could find a road to actually do it on!

[bigegg]

I had a printout from a track day done by the previous owner (?) of my 3.0 mv6 (manual) estate:
7.4
8.8
7.3
7.6

[05omegav6]

Plod 3.2 manual is sub seven seconds, think standard auto is 7.5-8

[Sir Tigger KC]

What is your 0-60mph time in your Omega.. Just curious.. So i can compare. ?

very slow 

ive tried to test this out of curiosity.... buggered if I could find a road to actually do it on!

A good place that I've found (if it's fairly quiet) is out of the Severn Bridge toll booths.  So if you ever find yourself heading to Wales bear it in mind!    Although I wouldn't do it if it's busy as it can be like wacky races out of there!!   

[Mr.OmegaMan]

What is your 0-60mph time in your Omega.. Just curious.. So i can compare. ?

very slow 

ive tried to test this out of curiosity.... buggered if I could find a road to actually do it on!

Here's a good video of a 2.5 V6 0-60 Auto, Looks like 7.5 Seconds as well 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMU8WYU2Yc0

Think i remember some years ago a member from OOF made this before selling his omega or something ?

[cem_devecioglu]

for better times , drop everything in the car chairs, bumpers, hood, boot, windows, mirrors, sunroof, lights, ac everythng.. then find the smallest size tyre

seriously its not that easy to measure accurately..  besides if you are huge+overweight find a small driver

ps: and dont test it in very hot weather
 

[Mr.OmegaMan]

for better times , drop everything in the car chairs, bumpers, hood, boot, windows, mirrors, sunroof, lights, ac everythng.. then find the smallest size tyre

seriously its not that easy to measure accurately..  besides if you are huge+overweight find a small driver

I probably should add then those 0-60 times i got where with x2 people in the car 

[05omegav6]

Don't forget your speedo will over read, so you need to try again, aiming for 65 should suffice, or use the speed on a satnav, if it can keep up

[Mr.OmegaMan]

Don't forget your speedo will over read, so you need to try again, aiming for 65 should suffice, or use the speed on a satnav, if it can keep up

Got an app on the iPhone that does the GPS speed will give that a go next time, Say cruise at 60mph and see what the GPS speed says.. 

[05omegav6]

Suspect it will say 56 when speedo says 60, then increase cruise speed one click at a time until gps speed says 60. Speedo will then be saying 65/66

[Mr.OmegaMan]

Suspect it will say 56 when speedo says 60, then increase cruise speed one click at a time until gps speed says 60. Speedo will then be saying 65/66

Thinking out loud here, But say one was to drive by the GPS speed and a copper comes up behind and pulls you over for speeding... Ah but don't they have calibrated speedo's like your ex-plod would have which is as accurate as GPS ?

[05omegav6]

Gps is accurate if it can 'see' the satellite, but can struggle to keep up if driving under trees, near tall buildings or low cloud But it is far more accurate than the imaginary number that the speedo says

Calibrated speedos aren't fitted to all Police cars, so Mr Plod has to be quite sure that you are speeding before pulling you over. So a traffic car with calibrated kit will pull you if you are consistently doing 10% over the limit with evidence to prove it, whereas a panda car might pull you at 15+%, and then only to give you a yelling at, as they cannot 'prove' that you were speeding

You can be arrested without evidence, ie on suspicion, but can only be charged with actual evidence

Back to your earlier question though I suspect the 3.2 auto will be nearer the 8 second mark

[Mr.OmegaMan]

Gps is accurate if it can 'see' the satellite, but can struggle to keep up if driving under trees, near tall buildings or low cloud But it is far more accurate than the imaginary number that the speedo says

Calibrated speedos aren't fitted to all Police cars, so Mr Plod has to be quite sure that you are speeding before pulling you over. So a traffic car with calibrated kit will pull you if you are consistently doing 10% over the limit with evidence to prove it, whereas a panda car might pull you at 15+%, and then only to give you a yelling at, as they cannot 'prove' that you were speeding

You can be arrested without evidence, ie on suspicion, but can only be charged with actual evidence

Back to your earlier question though I suspect the 3.2 auto will be nearer the 8 second mark

Aye trees, tunnels, buildings etc are the GPS's downfall... Talking about coppers gives me the shivers especially when talking about 0-60 on a public forum 

Not bad 8 Seconds considering age ware and tare 190k, x2 onboard etc... Pretty happy with that 

Be interesting to see what Chris gets out of that MV8 when its finished 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Sixty in about 9.0 seconds for a 2.6 auto.

60-100mph...... add about another 13 seconds.

so 0-100 mph around the 22 second mark.

[Mr.OmegaMan]

Here's the videos of the 3.2 won't bother with 2.2s ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sx7Bm4hZRA

Hard to tell with the angle but I've got the full hd video on the laptop can just about see when it hits 60..

Probably the 3.2 estate is a little slower than the saloon 

[Mr.OmegaMan]

Sixty in about 9.0 seconds for a 2.6 auto.

60-100mph...... add about another 13 seconds.

so 0-100 mph around the 22 second mark.

Thats good 

Haven't done a 0-100 would need a private road for that 

[dbdb]

Brochure says 8.5 secs for a 2.5 V6 manual , 10.5 auto , 9 manual estate , 11.5 auto estate

I have a 2.6 brochure somewhere, I assume it is faster.

To get that I think you'll have to empty boot, passengers and tank, remove the spare and jack, empty washer resevoir, remove aerial and maybe remove door mirrors,  maybe let the tyres down too.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Sixty in about 9.0 seconds for a 2.6 auto.

60-100mph...... add about another 13 seconds.

so 0-100 mph around the 22 second mark.

Thats good 

Haven't done a 0-100 would need a private road for that 

But of course.

[Mr.OmegaMan]

Brochure says 8.5 secs for a 2.5 V6 manual , 10.5 auto , 9 manual estate , 11.5 auto estate

I have a 2.6 brochure somewhere, I assume it is faster.

To get that I think you'll have to empty boot, passengers and tank, remove the spare and jack, empty washer resevoir, remove aerial and maybe remove door mirrors,  maybe let the tyres down too.

In snow maybe 

[Mr.OmegaMan]

Anyone know of any 0-150mph time's (on a private runway or private road)  ? 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Brochure says 8.5 secs for a 2.5 V6 manual , 10.5 auto , 9 manual estate , 11.5 auto estate

I have a 2.6 brochure somewhere, I assume it is faster.

To get that I think you'll have to empty boot, passengers and tank, remove the spare and jack, empty washer resevoir, remove aerial and maybe remove door mirrors,  maybe let the tyres down too.

Most british car mags test two up, and two ways to average out the effects of wind. They also test with a full tank of petrol which obviously adds significantly to the weight.

Autocar magazine has a full set of 0-60 and 0-100 times in the back.

[Vamps]

Anyone know of any 0-150mph time's (on a private runway or private road)  ? 

You might need to ask someone from the York meet.........

[dbdb]

Brochure says 8.5 secs for a 2.5 V6 manual , 10.5 auto , 9 manual estate , 11.5 auto estate

I have a 2.6 brochure somewhere, I assume it is faster.

To get that I think you'll have to empty boot, passengers and tank, remove the spare and jack, empty washer resevoir, remove aerial and maybe remove door mirrors,  maybe let the tyres down too.

In snow maybe 

  In fresh snow you might want to increase the pressures, same weight on less surface area - more pressure - more likely to penetrate the snow instead of floating on it. 

On a dry surface lowering the pressure will give more grip and crucially a lower tyre diameter so better gearing, at the expense of more rolling resistance which probably won't bother you for the 8.5 seconds.

[cem_devecioglu]

Brochure says 8.5 secs for a 2.5 V6 manual , 10.5 auto , 9 manual estate , 11.5 auto estate

I have a 2.6 brochure somewhere, I assume it is faster.

To get that I think you'll have to empty boot, passengers and tank, remove the spare and jack, empty washer resevoir, remove aerial and maybe remove door mirrors,  maybe let the tyres down too.

8.5 for standard manuall 2.5 with diff 3.7 and 9.5 for auto (auto measuring is unnecessary imo as it realy depends on the autobox condition)..
 
I can claim mine slightly less than 8.0 secs.. but there were other factors
 
ps: honestly 8.0 secs is not an hats off timing , even small modified 1.6 hatches with athmospheric engines can do that
 
pps: for manuals you can hardly get the same timing as it depends how fast and correctly shift..

[tigers_gonads]

I've had sub 8 seconds out of my 3.2 mv6 auto estate.

That is with a full donut tank of lpg, 1/4 tank of petrol and 2 fat barstewards in the front 

Don't know about you lads but I find that if I feather the throttle as is hits the auto change point for a split second then slam it back down, you get a quicker and cleaner change without the gearbox asking a 1000 questions before changing up 

Estates are definetly a little slower 0-60 and about 5mph slower top end due to the extra drag around the tailgate 

[Elite Pete]

Slower than a Mk1 1.8 MX5 with a fat bloke in it

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Slower than a Mk1 1.8 MX5 with a fat bloke in it

I keep hearing this rumour. It can't possibly be true, or can it?....

.....and anyway, I can't imagine TB in a 'girly' MX5.

[Mr.OmegaMan]

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[tunnie]

Sadly I was witness to said fat bloke beating even some of the best 3.0's and 3.2's on the run way 

[Elite Pete]

Slower than a Mk1 1.8 MX5 with a fat bloke in it

I keep hearing this rumour. It can't possibly be true, or can it?....

.....and anyway, I can't imagine TB in a 'girly' MX5.

Not him, the good looking fatty

[Mr.OmegaMan]

Slower than a Mk1 1.8 MX5 with a fat bloke in it

I keep hearing this rumour. It can't possibly be true, or can it?....

.....and anyway, I can't imagine TB in a 'girly' MX5.

Not him, the good looking fatty

Poor quality video  90s mobile camera phone ? 

MX-5 1st place an Omega Estate 2nd place ?

[TheBoy]

Don't forget your speedo will over read, so you need to try again, aiming for 65 should suffice, or use the speed on a satnav, if it can keep up

Got an app on the iPhone that does the GPS speed will give that a go next time, Say cruise at 60mph and see what the GPS speed says.. 

It won't be anywhere near good enough.  Thats why proper equipment is expensive.

[TheBoy]

The trouble with lauch starting an auto on a Yorkshire runway is with an auto, its in the land of the gods how much tyreslip you get - ideally you want just enough to hear, but not enough to fire the TC.

But you can't deny a 120bhp rusty Mk1 MX5 does have a far better power to weight ratio than a clapped out Omega , even if you do look like an Essex hairdresser...

[Rods2]

Seen some good reviews on Gtech performance equipment, starting from £200.

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/do-inexpensive-performance-meters-work-feature-tesla-electronics-g-tech-pro-rr-300-page-5

http://www.gtechpro.com/

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Performance Box from Racelogic should be on your list.

Costs around £450.

[Kevin Wood]

.. or do what I did and get a 2nd hand AP22 from ebay for about £40 IIRC.

[Mr.OmegaMan]

.. or do what I did and get a 2nd hand AP22 from ebay for about £40 IIRC.

Performance Box from Racelogic should be on your list.

Costs around £450.

Are both these devices for measuring the accurate speed ?

[Kevin Wood]

.. or do what I did and get a 2nd hand AP22 from ebay for about £40 IIRC.

Performance Box from Racelogic should be on your list.

Costs around £450.

Are both these devices for measuring the accurate speed ?

Not really. They measure 0-60 by measuring G from a standing start, and integrating the output from a G sensor to determine how long it's taken the car to get to 60.

[Mr.OmegaMan]

.. or do what I did and get a 2nd hand AP22 from ebay for about £40 IIRC.

Performance Box from Racelogic should be on your list.

Costs around £450.

Are both these devices for measuring the accurate speed ?

Not really. They measure 0-60 by measuring G from a standing start, and integrating the output from a G sensor to determine how long it's taken the car to get to 60.

 

Think I'd rather spend the £450 on other areas of the Omega though, But for £40 sounds a handy piece of kit 

[dbdb]

Do you really need these expensive devices to measure 0-60?  I would think use a gps to find out exactly what 60 is on your speedo (if OCD use two or more GPS's) and a good stopwatch. 

You could probably even  work it out with just a stopwatch, a tape measure and some calculus. Though I think you'd need to make quite a few runs .

[cem_devecioglu]

easiest/cheapest method is to find a police friend who have an accurate speed measurement device

[Kevin Wood]

Do you really need these expensive devices to measure 0-60?  I would think use a gps to find out exactly what 60 is on your speedo (if OCD use two or more GPS's) and a good stopwatch. 

You could probably even  work it out with just a stopwatch, a tape measure and some calculus. Though I think you'd need to make quite a few runs .

Off the shelf GPS isn't really fast enough. Most only output speed at 1 second intervals, and that can be averaged quite heavily. Of course, a purpose-built device can probably achieve better than this. Some of the Racelogic boxes combine GPS and G measurement to get the best of both worlds. Yes, it's an expensive way to get a figure to brag about down the pub, but they can do a whole lot more than that and, if you're developing a car for competition, I would imagine they are worth their weight in gold.

I seriously doubt you can get an accurate reading from the speedo. As said, they aren't that accurate on a steady-state reading but when the speed is changing rapidly the situation is probably even worse as some are quite heavily damped.

[cem_devecioglu]

in a desperate moment , find a corner where police waiting and get ready to pay the fine

[Mr.OmegaMan]

I read somewhere the next fast VW golf the "R" version I think can do 0-62mph in 4.9 seconds that's on par with a LC  .. Top end probably will still go to the LC though surely..

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

.. or do what I did and get a 2nd hand AP22 from ebay for about £40 IIRC.

Works using accelerometers.

I believe that Noah had two of these on his ark, Kevin.

[TheBoy]

Apart from "my knob is bigger than yours" conversations down the pub, does it really matter?

And I suspect most of the horseshit claims are the same as those getting 240+bhp on a rolling road from their Omegas....

[AndyRoid]

I read somewhere the next fast VW golf the "R" version I think can do 0-62mph in 4.9 seconds that's on par with a LC  .. Top end probably will still go to the LC though surely..

My mate's 03 plate R32 is making 267 BHP and does the 0-60 in 5.4 secs, but it is a very heavy car at over 1500 KG's because of the 4WD system (which is outstanding by the way).
Haven't got a clue what his top end is, but we have breached the 150 barrier in it (that's indicated clock speed, not GPS) and it seemed quite happy doing it.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Apart from "my knob is bigger than yours" conversations down the pub, does it really matter?

And I suspect most of the horseshit claims are the same as those getting 240+bhp on a rolling road from their Omegas....

 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I read somewhere the next fast VW golf the "R" version I think can do 0-62mph in 4.9 seconds that's on par with a LC  .. Top end probably will still go to the LC though surely..

My mate's 03 plate R32 is making 267 BHP and does the 0-60 in 5.4 secs, but it is a very heavy car at over 1500 KG's because of the 4WD system (which is outstanding by the way).
Haven't got a clue what his top end is, but we have breached the 150 barrier in it (that's indicated clock speed, not GPS) and it seemed quite happy doing it.

The original Golf GTI weighed barely half that.

Cars have become fat bastards as time has moved on.

[AndyRoid]

I read somewhere the next fast VW golf the "R" version I think can do 0-62mph in 4.9 seconds that's on par with a LC  .. Top end probably will still go to the LC though surely..

My mate's 03 plate R32 is making 267 BHP and does the 0-60 in 5.4 secs, but it is a very heavy car at over 1500 KG's because of the 4WD system (which is outstanding by the way).
Haven't got a clue what his top end is, but we have breached the 150 barrier in it (that's indicated clock speed, not GPS) and it seemed quite happy doing it.

The original Golf GTI weighed barely half that.

Cars have become fat bastards as time has moved on.

It's the 4WD system that makes most of it, although the V6 powerplant probably isn't helping 

[Rods2]

Apart from "my knob is bigger than yours" conversations down the pub, does it really matter?

And I suspect most of the horseshit claims are the same as those getting 240+bhp on a rolling road from their Omegas....

If I was putting the time and effort into improving a car's performance like Chris is, I would want to quantify the improvements I had made, not that I would brag about it down the pub of course. 

Chris seems to have put quite a lot of prior thought into why he wants an LS1 engined car and what he needs to achieve. I have been looking at the 3.6 V6 as a project as that would fit my criteria much better than a V8 and hope to have a go at this in the future. Where the 54deg engine is a poor lump IMHO and seems to have a fragile bottom end (a bit like the old Viva 1300 3 bearing crank engines), how much better would an Omega be with an engine producing more bhp and hopefully with a much better power curve?

[Dan282]

What is your 0-60mph time in your Omega.. Just curious.. So i can compare. ?

very slow 

ive tried to test this out of curiosity.... buggered if I could find a road to actually do it on!

Here's a good video of a 2.5 V6 0-60 Auto, Looks like 7.5 Seconds as well 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMU8WYU2Yc0

Think i remember some years ago a member from OOF made this before selling his omega or something ?

Yeah that was me in my old 2.5 but with a chipped ecu. 

[Mr.OmegaMan]

What is your 0-60mph time in your Omega.. Just curious.. So i can compare. ?

very slow 

ive tried to test this out of curiosity.... buggered if I could find a road to actually do it on!

Here's a good video of a 2.5 V6 0-60 Auto, Looks like 7.5 Seconds as well 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMU8WYU2Yc0

Think i remember some years ago a member from OOF made this before selling his omega or something ?

Yeah that was me in my old 2.5 but with a chipped ecu. 

Good video Dan 

[Dan282]

Cheers mate

I did this one and punched it just as a very old skool chorus came on

 http://youtu.be/UM5_riVHjM8