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[ronnyd]

Wasn,t there a story in,t papers today that a Tory MP was griping about not being able to claim for poppy wreaths on expenses. What a shower of shite they are.

[Mister Rog]

Wasn,t there a story in,t papers today that a Tory MP was griping about not being able to claim for poppy wreaths on expenses. What a shower of shite they are.

Agreed

 . . . . . . but I also do not accept everything in the papers at face value

[Bigron]

Wasn,t there a story in,t papers today that a Tory MP was griping about not being able to claim for poppy wreaths on expenses. What a shower of shite they are.

At least it wasn't a duck house!

Ron.

[Doctor Gollum]

That's exactly what it is. They have reproduced the blueprint from the 70,s which Labour and the unions used to almost completely destroy the country.
Young, gullible, badly* educated people are falling for it in their millions.
The thing is, surely Corbyn and crew know what the result of these policies was in the 70,s so why do they want to use them again rather than try and learn something from the failure ?
Can they really be that dim ?
Maybe they think that when they ruin the country this time around, it will spark a full blown revolution, which will bring about their Marxist Utopia.If they really believe that crap in the 21st century, there surely must be a case for having them taken out and shot for treason

* Educated / brainwashed to a certain mindset, with independence of thought strongly discouraged, presumably.

Fixed.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Thankyou.I was a bit tired and couldn't come up with the correct form of words. 

[Rods2]

Interesting article on Corbyn's Sovietization of the Labour party which undermines Parliamentary Democracy and Liebour MPs, so they have no say on the leader or on any policy matters. This will ensure the continued grip on the party by the Marxist hard-left. Will it lead to the forming of a new more moderate left-wing party?

https://www.conservativehome.com/lefidiotch/2017/09/corbyn-is-mounting-a-coup-detat-against-parliamentary-democracy.html

[Doctor Gollum]

SDP anyone

[Varche]

Vince Cable for PM

Left enough?

[Doctor Gollum]

Nigel Farrage for PM.

Ballsy enough?

Fixed

[Varche]

Who he?   

[TheBoy]

I think we have to accept we're screwed either way. The EU thing is going to kick us in the balls, when we're already down, for the next 15-20yrs (and anyone who thinks we are even remotely more than an insignificant island is deluded), which will come on to lower wages, higher taxes, and higher borrowing, with those leaning pulling all the strings and owning everything. Until nobody will lend us any more.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Ah yes we can always rely on TB for a upbeat slant on things! 

[TheBoy]

Ah yes we can always rely on TB for a upbeat slant on things! 

We all know we are not going to reach a sensible deal with the EU, so we'll pay £100m for a hard brexit. Europe has no need to make any deals with us.

The yanks won't do a deal, because they rightly put themselves first.

We're mongrels if we think we are in any way significant to the EU or US.  Maybe we can deal with Vlad, and become part of the motherland.  TBH, that's now looking more and more likely.


And Corbyn stands a reasonable chance of getting in, as the british public is both incredibly stupid and short memory.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

We shall see. 

[Rods2]

Insignificant - 4th biggest economy in the world.
Military - After US as a superpower we are second as the world's only global power.
Exports - 10th biggest nation with 2.7% of global trade.
Imports - 5th biggest nation with 3.6% of global trade.

If the EU commission foolishly want a trade war both sides will be losers and I personally think the EU Commission does not want to do a deal on any terms to punish us. This means there is only one smart move and that is to go to the rest of the world on an import substitution mission with regular updates of what is cheaper from whom from March 2019. Member Governments will then be forced to act to protect their market share, GDP growth and employment rates. Member Governments regularly face the ballot box over their policies, the EU commission dictatorship never has and never will and are a law until themselves.

In the short term from March 2019 until 2021 we will have a short sharp recession while we sort out rest of world free trade deals and focus on import substitution for food (primarily hits France and Spain) but our food will become 20-40% cheaper and manufactured goods, especially cars (will hit Germany hardest) and we get a  much stronger economy where we reduce or eliminate our balance of payments deficit where we have been screwed over by the EEC / EU from day 1 on this to give us a big deficit with the rest of the EU, compared with currently having a positive trade balance with the rest of the world. Where the EU due to their protectionist trade policies (driven by the French) and anti-business, green tree-hugger socialism and expensive, rare energy policies that make their long-term bleak outlook even worse, where they are losing global market share at twice the rate of the US and they will lose much of their current UK market.

PS: Don't mention the war, half-currency unsolvable, long-term nonviable Euro and Greek, Italian, Spanish, French and German banks, where several of the small ones have been quietly bailed out in 2017. The supernova when it fails is Deutsche Bank, €2tn+ labilities just in the derivatives market and much more in other areas.

The only thing I can find that is more negative than TB, where I've really searched, is minus infinity and then only just.