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[Andy B]

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The story is a cracker but I don't have time to type it up

Go on ........... you know you want to.       

[2woody]

the whole industry pretty much works on a 50% mark-up. So when they say they've not got much room for manoeuvre, they're being er, "economical with the truth".

But they are car salesmen after all.

as with anything else - decide how much it's worth in your own mind and pay that - not a penny more.

[Andy B]

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 So when they say they've not got much room for manoeuvre, they're being er, "economical with the truth"......

You mean lying! 

[tunnie]

standard dealer bull, but i can think of nicer cars to spend 9k on!

Good job you went along by sounds of things, if she went on her own before. they must have thought they had this one in the bag and slap everything on.

[Andy B]

standard dealer bull, but i can think of nicer cars to spend 9k on!

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So could I, but it'll be her only car for going to & from work and to ferry two kids around. 

[tunnie]

standard dealer bull, but i can think of nicer cars to spend 9k on!

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So could I, but it'll be her only car for going to & from work and to ferry two kids around. 

True, she needs something cheap and reliable.

Is she going to go back and get it? I'd tell them to sod off myself!

If I was in the market for a mum-bus which was for taking kids about, I'd look at something like this:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201129403522191/sort/priceasc/usedcars/maximum-mileage/up_to_40000_miles/price-to/8000/fuel-type/diesel/price-from/7000/model/s-max/make/ford/page/1/radius/1501/postcode/w39ej?logcode=p

[Marks DTM Calib]

Thats what happens when you have these larger groups who employ children as sales staff.

He wasn't very old. 

I have to say, I would have been looking for more cash off that price to as its a close to base spec astra of the old type.

It was her money, and as it was sprung on me to have a look at this specific car I didn't really have the chance to compare other cars & prices. She was happy so that's all that matters. 

It has to be said that the 1.7 is one of the most reliable modern diesels out there and teh H has very few isuses.

I note also that the diesel Vx's are quite hard to find to.

[Andy B]

standard dealer bull, but i can think of nicer cars to spend 9k on!

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So could I, but it'll be her only car for going to & from work and to ferry two kids around. 

True, she needs something cheap and reliable.

Is she going to go back and get it? I'd tell them to sod off myself!

If I was in the market for a mum-bus which was for taking kids about, I'd look at something like this:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201129403522191/sort/priceasc/usedcars/maximum-mileage/up_to_40000_miles/price-to/8000/fuel-type/diesel/price-from/7000/model/s-max/make/ford/page/1/radius/1501/postcode/w39ej?logcode=p

Not bad. I think the £30 a year road tax of the Astra was also a sweetener for her. 

[Andy B]

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I note also that the diesel Vx's are quite hard to find to.

There were 2 of them in the area according to Auto Trader.  :-?

[Marks DTM Calib]

standard dealer bull, but i can think of nicer cars to spend 9k on!

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So could I, but it'll be her only car for going to & from work and to ferry two kids around. 

True, she needs something cheap and reliable.

Is she going to go back and get it? I'd tell them to sod off myself!

If I was in the market for a mum-bus which was for taking kids about, I'd look at something like this:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201129403522191/sort/priceasc/usedcars/maximum-mileage/up_to_40000_miles/price-to/8000/fuel-type/diesel/price-from/7000/model/s-max/make/ford/page/1/radius/1501/postcode/w39ej?logcode=p

You dont need a mum bus for two kids, I only have one as its the closest she would let me get to a van! 

I did try an S-Max and the diesel engine is pretty nasty to drive, the petrols were better (plus it will have a DPF so means that its totaly useless for short journeys)

[Andy B]

.... I only have one as its the closest she would let me get to a van! 

Who wears the trousers in your house?     

I did try an S-Max and the diesel engine is pretty nasty to drive, the petrols were better (plus it will have a DPF so means that its totaly useless for short journeys)

Don't the Astra diseals have a DPV?  :-/ :-/

[tunnie]

standard dealer bull, but i can think of nicer cars to spend 9k on!

......

So could I, but it'll be her only car for going to & from work and to ferry two kids around. 

True, she needs something cheap and reliable.

Is she going to go back and get it? I'd tell them to sod off myself!

If I was in the market for a mum-bus which was for taking kids about, I'd look at something like this:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201129403522191/sort/priceasc/usedcars/maximum-mileage/up_to_40000_miles/price-to/8000/fuel-type/diesel/price-from/7000/model/s-max/make/ford/page/1/radius/1501/postcode/w39ej?logcode=p

You dont need a mum bus for two kids, I only have one as its the closest she would let me get to a van! 

I did try an S-Max and the diesel engine is pretty nasty to drive, the petrols were better (plus it will have a DPF so means that its totaly useless for short journeys)

I quite like the look of them compared to other similar types, interior also appeals. But never driven one, in fact i've never driven a modern diesel 

My version of a mum-bus would be an oil burning Audi A8, Merc S-Class or Jag XJ.

Maybe XF too, but they are bit expensive.

[tunnie]

I did try an S-Max and the diesel engine is pretty nasty to drive, the petrols were better (plus it will have a DPF so means that its totaly useless for short journeys)

Don't the Astra diseals have a DPV?  :-/ :-/
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Don't think so, guess it does make diesels less smokey but such a waste of fuel!

[Marks DTM Calib]

.... I only have one as its the closest she would let me get to a van! 

Who wears the trousers in your house?     

I did try an S-Max and the diesel engine is pretty nasty to drive, the petrols were better (plus it will have a DPF so means that its totaly useless for short journeys)

Don't the Astra diseals have a DPV?  :-/ :-/

Only the twin top 1.9's got a DPF (due to the extra weight I suspect).

Vectras and mum buses also got the DPF on the 1.9's (again down to the weight).

And all to meet euro particulate emission needs

[Andy B]

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And all to meet euro particulate emission needs

Thanks

I suppose this car meets something or other re emmisions due to its £30 a year road tax.