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Title: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 26 March 2024, 13:42:55
https://youtu.be/wav1HjTCfvM?si=-p7EWBNW-nYCoiA0

The container ship wasn't even pretending to be in the marked channel under the bridge :o

It may have been trying to cut the corner to the west of Fort Carroll  but would have had plenty of room to clear the bridge first.
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse.
Post by: ronnyd on 26 March 2024, 15:08:30
I take there was a pilot navigating it out of the port. Not a very good one if there was.
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse.
Post by: Migalot on 26 March 2024, 15:15:01
This is a much more informative video. You can see that the ship's lights go out, then come back on again and large plumes of exhaust (suggesting full emergency reverse?) all prior to the impact. To me, that suggests mechanical failure of some sort.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDceU9x58vc&t=26s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDceU9x58vc&t=26s)
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse.
Post by: STEMO on 26 March 2024, 15:23:44
I read earlier that there were two pilots on board. Seems to have been some kind of equipment failure, it will all come out in the wash.
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 26 March 2024, 15:52:31
This is a much more informative video. You can see that the ship's lights go out, then come back on again and large plumes of exhaust (suggesting full emergency reverse?) all prior to the impact. To me, that suggests mechanical failure of some sort.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDceU9x58vc&t=26s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDceU9x58vc&t=26s)
That certainly throws a different light on it :y looks like they'd almost bought the bow back around.
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse.
Post by: Rangie on 26 March 2024, 15:52:56
I read earlier that there were two pilots on board. Seems to have been some kind of equipment failure, it will all come out in the wash.
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Night out on the piss before sail away.
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 26 March 2024, 16:03:27
I read earlier that there were two pilots on board. Seems to have been some kind of equipment failure, it will all come out in the wash.
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Night out on the piss before sail away.
Apparently not from the second video.
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse.
Post by: Migalot on 26 March 2024, 18:57:17
I see that the port is expected to close indefinitely, causing huge supply chain issues. Last year more than 847,000 cars and light trucks passed through the port, the 13th consecutive year it has led all other ports for these. Nissan, Toyota, GM, Volvo , JLR and VW use Baltimore for imports and exports (Source: National Times).   
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse.
Post by: Varche on 26 March 2024, 19:03:27
Imagine the extra commute journeys.

Plus the pressure to get a replacement bridge and quickly!
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 26 March 2024, 19:12:52
I see that the port is expected to close indefinitely, causing huge supply chain issues. Last year more than 847,000 cars and light trucks passed through the port, the 13th consecutive year it has led all other ports for these. Nissan, Toyota, GM, Volvo , JLR and VW use Baltimore for imports and exports (Source: National Times).
Given just how far inland it is, it's surprising just how busy it is.
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 26 March 2024, 20:14:29
This thread is far too sensible.  ::)

Where are the conspiracy theories?  It was ISIS, Putin, Trump, Aliens etc that wot done it etc?  ???    ;D
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse.
Post by: grifter on 26 March 2024, 20:23:34
Uncle Albert at the helm!
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse.
Post by: redelitev6 on 26 March 2024, 21:52:48
 :o You can just imagine the sense of panic on the bridge of the ship  :o
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse.
Post by: STEMO on 26 March 2024, 22:08:41
:o You can just imagine the sense of panic on the bridge of the ship  :o
Even worse on the actual bridge.
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse.
Post by: Raeturbo on 26 March 2024, 22:44:07
By the reports so far it should never have been let out of the dock, it was tripping out even on light loads according to one spokeswoman.
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 26 March 2024, 23:12:37
:o You can just imagine the sense of panic on the bridge of the ship  :o
Even worse on the actual bridge.
From the video the traffic over the bridge was fortunately exceptionally light, another 4/5 hours later it could have been a veritable disaster  :-\
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse.
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 27 March 2024, 03:59:36
It shows the downside of a single engine propulsion system, lose the engine, lose the lot!

Emergency gen will just about keep the lights on, run the control systems, steering hydraulics and charge the start air system for the main plant, not a lot else.
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse.
Post by: ronnyd on 27 March 2024, 13:11:23
This thread is far too sensible.  ::)

Where are the conspiracy theories?  It was ISIS, Putin, Trump, Aliens etc that wot done it etc?  ???    ;D
Was reading that a presenter on Fox News was blaming Biden's immigration policies.  ::)
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 27 March 2024, 13:37:41
Just as a CNN presenter will probably have blamed Trump.  ;D
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 27 March 2024, 13:46:08
"The Federal Government will cover the cost of rebuilding the bridge... as long as Congress approves it"
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse.
Post by: redelitev6 on 27 March 2024, 19:20:07
:o You can just imagine the sense of panic on the bridge of the ship  :o
Even worse on the actual bridge.
Poor sods probably didn't know what was going on  :(
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse.
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 28 March 2024, 08:14:11
:o You can just imagine the sense of panic on the bridge of the ship  :o
Even worse on the actual bridge.
From the video the traffic over the bridge was fortunately exceptionally light, another 4/5 hours later it could have been a veritable disaster  :-\

Traffic had been stopped but, there was still a maintenance team who did not manage to get back in the van and away in time
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 28 March 2024, 08:20:50
Even if they had, they had nowhere to go :'(
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse.
Post by: Nick W on 28 March 2024, 09:43:41
This thread is far too sensible.  ::)

Where are the conspiracy theories?  It was ISIS, Putin, Trump, Aliens etc that wot done it etc?  ???    ;D


Here's one: it was the Russians trying to potato bomb Kiev for some reason. Showing their usual competence, they were in the wrong country, using the wrong form of transport that broke down, and the potatoes were in one of the bottom containers. :y
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse.
Post by: Rangie on 28 March 2024, 10:34:12
According to a previous  member of crew being interviewed the vessel had encountered several mechanical problems in the past,probably well past its serviceable life & poor maintenance wouldn't suprise me in the slightest,hope whoever owns it has decent insurance for all involved , I can see this incident opening up a whole can of worms.
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse.
Post by: countrywoman on 28 March 2024, 15:00:18
It was crewed by the cast of the Navy Lark (now that dates me) , Approaching harbour wall now sir (bang). Steady as you go and left hand down a bit.
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse.
Post by: Raeturbo on 28 March 2024, 17:52:02
Well it’s only 9 years old
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse.
Post by: ronnyd on 28 March 2024, 17:54:03
It was crewed by the cast of the Navy Lark (now that dates me) , Approaching harbour wall now sir (bang). Steady as you go and left hand down a bit.
Full ahead upwards.  ;D Used to like Round the Horne too.
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse.
Post by: countrywoman on 29 March 2024, 09:39:41
Ooooh hello ,i'm Julian and this my friend Sandy. Bona ,now take the weight of your lallies.
Title: Re: Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapse.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 March 2024, 11:11:43
According to a previous  member of crew being interviewed the vessel had encountered several mechanical problems in the past,probably well past its serviceable life & poor maintenance wouldn't suprise me in the slightest,hope whoever owns it has decent insurance for all involved , I can see this incident opening up a whole can of worms.
That smacks of a disgruntled former employee rather than anything meaningful.

The ship is registered in Singapore and is owned and operated by Singapore companies and it's been regularly inspected with minimal compliance issues, the most recent one was in New York late last year iirc.