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Y26SE, AR25 and Mobile Home 1300kg
« on: 06 June 2017, 19:19:26 »

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Just bought a Mobile Home (Caravan) having total weight 1300 kg. Is it OK to use D-position in Auto box which allow to lock the turbine or prevent the locking by using e.g. position 3 or S-mode. Heard that locking turbine can be a problem with heavy caravan.
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Re: Y26SE, AR25 and Mobile Home 1300kg
« Reply #1 on: 06 June 2017, 19:41:37 »

Hello
Just bought a Mobile Home (Caravan) having total weight 1300 kg. Is it OK to use D-position in Auto box which allow to lock the turbine or prevent the locking by using e.g. position 3 or S-mode. Heard that locking turbine can be a problem with heavy caravan.

I think the "locking turbine" is a translation error for "torque converter lockup", however it matters not .. I tow a 1600kg caravan and have done for many years, absolutely no problem with using "D" at all ... very rarely use any other position (other than "R" and "P")   :)
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Re: Y26SE, AR25 and Mobile Home 1300kg
« Reply #2 on: 06 June 2017, 19:53:32 »

Thanks for reply and sorry for wrong "translation"; yes torque converter it is. I try to keep that in my mind. Found a bit higher fuel consumption...
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Re: Y26SE, AR25 and Mobile Home 1300kg
« Reply #3 on: 06 June 2017, 20:14:02 »

Hello
Just bought a Mobile Home (Caravan) having total weight 1300 kg. Is it OK to use D-position in Auto box which allow to lock the turbine or prevent the locking by using e.g. position 3 or S-mode. Heard that locking turbine can be a problem with heavy caravan.

I think the "locking turbine" is a translation error for "torque converter lockup", however it matters not .. I tow a 1600kg caravan and have done for many years, absolutely no problem with using "D" at all ... very rarely use any other position (other than "R" and "P")   :)

...actually do you have AR35 and perhaps larger torque converter?
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Re: Y26SE, AR25 and Mobile Home 1300kg
« Reply #4 on: 06 June 2017, 20:25:10 »

Hello
Just bought a Mobile Home (Caravan) having total weight 1300 kg. Is it OK to use D-position in Auto box which allow to lock the turbine or prevent the locking by using e.g. position 3 or S-mode. Heard that locking turbine can be a problem with heavy caravan.

I think the "locking turbine" is a translation error for "torque converter lockup", however it matters not .. I tow a 1600kg caravan and have done for many years, absolutely no problem with using "D" at all ... very rarely use any other position (other than "R" and "P")   :)

...actually do you have AR35 and perhaps larger torque converter?

yup 3.2 has the AR35 .. no idea on difference in torque converter, although the previous omega was a 2.5 V6  with the AR25 and that towed a similar caravan for 5 years without any problems !!  :)

Omegas are excellent towcars, without any doubt whatsoever :)
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Re: Y26SE, AR25 and Mobile Home 1300kg
« Reply #5 on: 07 June 2017, 08:55:48 »

Ive towed several Omegas (1700kg) for 50 miles or so with a 2.5v6 / AR25  and had no problems whatsoever. 1300kg shouldn't present any problems.  :y
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Re: Y26SE, AR25 and Mobile Home 1300kg
« Reply #6 on: 08 June 2017, 05:07:01 »

Nice to hear, thanks for comments. In Finland max speed for caravan is 80 km/hour (50 miles/h) so let's see during coming week end...
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Re: Y26SE, AR25 and Mobile Home 1300kg
« Reply #7 on: 08 June 2017, 15:50:44 »

Actually one question more, how about tire pressure in back?
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Re: Y26SE, AR25 and Mobile Home 1300kg
« Reply #8 on: 08 June 2017, 18:11:05 »

Actually one question more, how about tire pressure in back?
Please read the manual ;)

Might even be on the door pillar :-\
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Re: Y26SE, AR25 and Mobile Home 1300kg
« Reply #9 on: 08 June 2017, 18:18:46 »

Actually one question more, how about tire pressure in back?
Please read the manual ;)

Might even be on the door pillar :-\
Not on door pillar on Omega. Is in manual.  Pressures, both normal and loaded, varies with tyre size :)
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Re: Y26SE, AR25 and Mobile Home 1300kg
« Reply #10 on: 08 June 2017, 18:46:47 »

Sure, that I understood but with caravan, is it more safe to understand that as "Full Load".
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Re: Y26SE, AR25 and Mobile Home 1300kg
« Reply #11 on: 08 June 2017, 19:04:24 »

Sure, that I understood but with caravan, is it more safe to understand that as "Full Load".
I'm not a pikey, but I thought caravans we not supposed to put significant weight on the car.

I'm sure our resident professional pikey - Entwood - will give some proper, sensible pikey related advice :y
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Re: Y26SE, AR25 and Mobile Home 1300kg
« Reply #12 on: 08 June 2017, 20:20:00 »

OK, thanks. Understood that the weight to the "hook" can be 50-100 kg (110-220 lb) + extra forces sideways during the journey. So I only thought should I put the max pressure to rear, let's wait the professional to talk...
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Re: Y26SE, AR25 and Mobile Home 1300kg
« Reply #13 on: 08 June 2017, 21:02:46 »

Sure, that I understood but with caravan, is it more safe to understand that as "Full Load".
I'm not a pikey, but I thought caravans we not supposed to put significant weight on the car.

I'm sure our resident professional pikey - Entwood - will give some proper, sensible pikey related advice :y

I can try .. maximum "noseweight" for the towball is 100Kgs, regardless of the weight of the van itself, and that is the "norm" for most 'vans as well, although some do have lower limits. As "most" folk who caravan regularly are very aware of the problems that occur if the van weighs more than the car, or gets close to it, they tend to load the car with as much as they can. So a full boot, stuff on the backseat and the van on the hitch puts a fair weight over the back axle, hence the use of the "Full Load" tyre pressures to avoid saggy sidewalls leading to overheating tyres, and excessive lateral movement etc.

That 100kgs noseweight is actually pretty important, and most aim to get very close to it, but not exceed it, as it aids stability greatly, along with the old adage .. "heavy stuff over the axle".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rH-g7LDHeI
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Re: Y26SE, AR25 and Mobile Home 1300kg
« Reply #14 on: 08 June 2017, 21:14:15 »

Sure, that I understood but with caravan, is it more safe to understand that as "Full Load".
I'm not a pikey, but I thought caravans we not supposed to put significant weight on the car.

I'm sure our resident professional pikey - Entwood - will give some proper, sensible pikey related advice :y

I can try .. maximum "noseweight" for the towball is 100Kgs, regardless of the weight of the van itself, and that is the "norm" for most 'vans as well, although some do have lower limits. As "most" folk who caravan regularly are very aware of the problems that occur if the van weighs more than the car, or gets close to it, they tend to load the car with as much as they can. So a full boot, stuff on the backseat and the van on the hitch puts a fair weight over the back axle, hence the use of the "Full Load" tyre pressures to avoid saggy sidewalls leading to overheating tyres, and excessive lateral movement etc.

That 100kgs noseweight is actually pretty important, and most aim to get very close to it, but not exceed it, as it aids stability greatly, along with the old adage .. "heavy stuff over the axle".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rH-g7LDHeI

I thought the max tow ball weight for an Omega was 75kg  :-\
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