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Re: Brit Awards ...
« Reply #45 on: 23 November 2021, 19:57:36 »


Two genders and two sexes, Nick. We have known this for literally a hundred thousand years. It is settled science and settled biology.

To argue otherwise you may as well argue that the Earth is really flat..... :)


For 99.9% of the world sex and gender will match.


That's utter 'dangle berries'! Once again, gender and sex are grammatical and biological terms respectively.


English is unusual in that we only apply genders to things that have a sex - other languages can use male and female pronouns with the same word to refer to entirely different objects. Saying that a table is masculine, or a girl is neuter is ridiculous to us but correct in German. That same table is feminine in French....


Most of the time a person's sex is irrelevant, like a teacher/student/criminal/driver/etc, and they should be neuter permanently, even if you know that the 150kg tattooed behemoth who stole your dinner set is a woman. That's the way we're headed, and it isn't a bad thing.
That doesn't fit with a news report I saw last week asking bosses to be more sympathetic to.......err......people? who were menstruating.
Unless, of course, a young chap could ask for a day off due to heavy periods and dare his boss to challenge him.
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Re: Brit Awards ...
« Reply #46 on: 23 November 2021, 20:08:30 »


Two genders and two sexes, Nick. We have known this for literally a hundred thousand years. It is settled science and settled biology.

To argue otherwise you may as well argue that the Earth is really flat..... :)


For 99.9% of the world sex and gender will match.


That's utter 'dangle berries'! Once again, gender and sex are grammatical and biological terms respectively.


English is unusual in that we only apply genders to things that have a sex - other languages can use male and female pronouns with the same word to refer to entirely different objects. Saying that a table is masculine, or a girl is neuter is ridiculous to us but correct in German. That same table is feminine in French....


Most of the time a person's sex is irrelevant, like a teacher/student/criminal/driver/etc, and they should be neuter permanently, even if you know that the 150kg tattooed behemoth who stole your dinner set is a woman. That's the way we're headed, and it isn't a bad thing.
That doesn't fit with a news report I saw last week asking bosses to be more sympathetic to.......err......people? who were menstruating.
Unless, of course, a young chap could ask for a day off due to heavy periods and dare his boss to challenge him.


That's an instance where the person's sex(not gender!) is not just relevant but necessary. It wouldn't be if they wanted the time off because they had broken their toes and couldn't walk.


It's a good illustration of why volunteering yourself as a victim, or being offended for somebody else who isn't, should not be encouraged. That's the real problem, not that a tiny minority of an already small group want their own pronoun.
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Re: Brit Awards ...
« Reply #47 on: 23 November 2021, 20:19:48 »

Well.....they'll get whatever pronoun I feel like giving them.  :)
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Re: Brit Awards ...
« Reply #48 on: 24 November 2021, 13:08:12 »


Two genders and two sexes, Nick. We have known this for literally a hundred thousand years. It is settled science and settled biology.

To argue otherwise you may as well argue that the Earth is really flat..... :)


For 99.9% of the world sex and gender will match.


That's utter 'dangle berries'! Once again, gender and sex are grammatical and biological terms respectively.


English is unusual in that we only apply genders to things that have a sex - other languages can use male and female pronouns with the same word to refer to entirely different objects. Saying that a table is masculine, or a girl is neuter is ridiculous to us but correct in German. That same table is feminine in French....


Most of the time a person's sex is irrelevant, like a teacher/student/criminal/driver/etc, and they should be neuter permanently, even if you know that the 150kg tattooed behemoth who stole your dinner set is a woman. That's the way we're headed, and it isn't a bad thing.
That doesn't fit with a news report I saw last week asking bosses to be more sympathetic to.......err......people? who were menstruating.
Unless, of course, a young chap could ask for a day off due to heavy periods and dare his boss to challenge him.

Insulting to real women.

As is the ridiculous 'men can also give birth' or 'birthing people' so beloved by the democrats across the pond.

This type of delusion has always been around, but was only believed by people on the fringe of society, or people with ' emotional issues'

It becomes a problem problem is when it starts to filter into the real world with people like Starmer unable to define the word 'woman'.

WOMAN......Adult human female (with a cervix) ...... Not difficult really. :)

 

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Re: Brit Awards ...
« Reply #49 on: 24 November 2021, 13:16:45 »

Well.....they'll get whatever pronoun I feel like giving them:)


That is fighting talk.

People who go down the pronoun route require your absolute obedience. ::)


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Re: Brit Awards ...
« Reply #50 on: 24 November 2021, 15:02:34 »


Two genders and two sexes, Nick. We have known this for literally a hundred thousand years. It is settled science and settled biology.

To argue otherwise you may as well argue that the Earth is really flat..... :)


For 99.9% of the world sex and gender will match.


That's utter 'dangle berries'! Once again, gender and sex are grammatical and biological terms respectively.


English is unusual in that we only apply genders to things that have a sex - other languages can use male and female pronouns with the same word to refer to entirely different objects. Saying that a table is masculine, or a girl is neuter is ridiculous to us but correct in German. That same table is feminine in French....


Most of the time a person's sex is irrelevant, like a teacher/student/criminal/driver/etc, and they should be neuter permanently, even if you know that the 150kg tattooed behemoth who stole your dinner set is a woman. That's the way we're headed, and it isn't a bad thing.
That doesn't fit with a news report I saw last week asking bosses to be more sympathetic to.......err......people? who were menstruating.
Unless, of course, a young chap could ask for a day off due to heavy periods and dare his boss to challenge him.

Insulting to real women.

As is the ridiculous 'men can also give birth' or 'birthing people' so beloved by the democrats across the pond.

This type of delusion has always been around, but was only believed by people on the fringe of society, or people with ' emotional issues'

It becomes a problem problem is when it starts to filter into the real world with people like Starmer unable to define the word 'woman'.

WOMAN......Adult human female (with a cervix) ...... Not difficult really. :)

So this childish debate from schoolboys (excluding Nick W who is on the right track) in the playground still continues!!! ::) ::) ::) ::)

I am not going to repeat (I am so fed up with this ignorance!!) all that I have said on this subject, which numerous doctors, psychiatrists and specialist in the gender identity field now recognise as fact, but just ask:

1.  What is a women who has unfortunately been born without a uterus, but has everything else, will never have periods, called in your book?

2.  What is a woman who has had all her reproductive organs surgically removed called?

3.  What is a woman, born as a girl outwardly, who has gender reassignment with ALL female reproductive organs removed to be called - she no longer has a cervix, or anything else, does therefore not have periods - a MAN?  Well yes, in your book she cannot be a women so "he" must be male, which will delight that person no end and cause great celebration after years of torment going back to early childhood!! :D :D

4.  Finally, how would you describe a person who is a hermaphrodite - intersex, with both male and female organs?

Now before you come up again with more childish, misinformed, ignorant, tosh, and insult to some very unfortunate people who did not choose to be born as they have been, KNOWING from early childhood their brain gender does not match their physical body, with society slagging them off as you are, just ask yourselves WHY this subject so troubles you in a World with currently far, far, bigger issues for you lot to worry about with: War, Famine, vast movements of people fleeing their undemocratic war torn nations, staggering increases in energy prices, children in this democratic country losing social support and welfare assistance etc, etc, oh, yes, and the Covid Pandemic that is still far from being over?!!

In light of that why, oh why, are you worried what any man or women wants to be called.  It is NOT an insult to "real", everyday, women as you claim for a poor unfortunate soul who is trans or intersex, to want to be medically assessed and cleared for gender reassignment to become recognised as being female, or anyone who just wants to be known as the character they display whilst peacefully going about their day to day life!  Why should that bother any of us?!

I certainly have far more important things to worry about than that!!! ::) ::) ::)
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Re: Brit Awards ...
« Reply #51 on: 24 November 2021, 15:10:39 »

1 Woman
2 Woman
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I didn't want a Christmas card anyway Lizzie  :D ;D

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Re: Brit Awards ...
« Reply #52 on: 24 November 2021, 15:22:32 »

1 Woman
2 Woman
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I didn't want a Christmas card anyway Lizzie  :D ;D
I am with Dave on this, and actually all the boxes are an affront to women who suffer with endometriosis (and the like) and desperately wanted to have children but couldn't and have subsequently had to endure a hysterectomy in their mid thirties. And by your own yardstick, I have direct personal experience of this.
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Re: Brit Awards ...
« Reply #53 on: 24 November 2021, 15:30:28 »


Two genders and two sexes, Nick. We have known this for literally a hundred thousand years. It is settled science and settled biology.

To argue otherwise you may as well argue that the Earth is really flat..... :)


For 99.9% of the world sex and gender will match.


That's utter 'dangle berries'! Once again, gender and sex are grammatical and biological terms respectively.


English is unusual in that we only apply genders to things that have a sex - other languages can use male and female pronouns with the same word to refer to entirely different objects. Saying that a table is masculine, or a girl is neuter is ridiculous to us but correct in German. That same table is feminine in French....


Most of the time a person's sex is irrelevant, like a teacher/student/criminal/driver/etc, and they should be neuter permanently, even if you know that the 150kg tattooed behemoth who stole your dinner set is a woman. That's the way we're headed, and it isn't a bad thing.
That doesn't fit with a news report I saw last week asking bosses to be more sympathetic to.......err......people? who were menstruating.
Unless, of course, a young chap could ask for a day off due to heavy periods and dare his boss to challenge him.

Insulting to real women.

As is the ridiculous 'men can also give birth' or 'birthing people' so beloved by the democrats across the pond.

This type of delusion has always been around, but was only believed by people on the fringe of society, or people with ' emotional issues'

It becomes a problem problem is when it starts to filter into the real world with people like Starmer unable to define the word 'woman'.

WOMAN......Adult human female (with a cervix) ...... Not difficult really. :)

So this childish debate from schoolboys (excluding Nick W who is on the right track) in the playground still continues!!! ::) ::) ::) ::)

I am not going to repeat (I am so fed up with this ignorance!!) all that I have said on this subject, which numerous doctors, psychiatrists and specialist in the gender identity field now recognise as fact, but just ask:

1.  What is a women who has unfortunately been born without a uterus, but has everything else, will never have periods, called in your book?

2.  What is a woman who has had all her reproductive organs surgically removed called?

3.  What is a woman, born as a girl outwardly, who has gender reassignment with ALL female reproductive organs removed to be called - she no longer has a cervix, or anything else, does therefore not have periods - a MAN?  Well yes, in your book she cannot be a women so "he" must be male, which will delight that person no end and cause great celebration after years of torment going back to early childhood!! :D :D

4.  Finally, how would you describe a person who is a hermaphrodite - intersex, with both male and female organs?

Now before you come up again with more childish, misinformed, ignorant, tosh, and insult to some very unfortunate people who did not choose to be born as they have been, KNOWING from early childhood their brain gender does not match their physical body, with society slagging them off as you are, just ask yourselves WHY this subject so troubles you in a World with currently far, far, bigger issues for you lot to worry about with: War, Famine, vast movements of people fleeing their undemocratic war torn nations, staggering increases in energy prices, children in this democratic country losing social support and welfare assistance etc, etc, oh, yes, and the Covid Pandemic that is still far from being over?!!

In light of that why, oh why, are you worried what any man or women wants to be called.  It is NOT an insult to "real", everyday, women as you claim for a poor unfortunate soul who is trans or intersex, to want to be medically assessed and cleared for gender reassignment to become recognised as being female, or anyone who just wants to be known as the character they display whilst peacefully going about their day to day life!  Why should that bother any of us?!

I certainly have far more important things to worry about than that!!! ::) ::) ::)
That's a very long 'not going to repeat'  ;D
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Re: Brit Awards ...
« Reply #54 on: 24 November 2021, 15:41:46 »

You explain these things, Lizzie, as if it is compulsory for everyone to be au fait with every detail of how we should address someone who considers themselves gender neutral or whatever. It is not. Most people don't even consider stuff like this in their day to day life.
Wouldn't it be nice if aforementioned gender neutral people understood this, and didn't have a hissy fit when being innocently addressed as him or her. As for changing the way an airline captain or train driver addresses their passengers, it's just self important nonsense, and is bound to attract scorn and derision.

As someone once said: "If it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, it's a duck".
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« Reply #55 on: 24 November 2021, 16:20:51 »

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I didn't want a Christmas card anyway Lizzie  :D ;D

Yep....and a man who lops off his dick is exactly that. A man without a dick. Doesn't make him a woman.
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« Reply #56 on: 24 November 2021, 16:37:52 »

At the Labour party conference there was a biological man who identified as a 'trans woman lesbian'. He/she got a huge round of applause for being so brave. :-X/

In reality he was a man who was attracted to women.

If a real lesbian ( one with a cervix) refuses to have sex with this biological man ( one with a dick and balls but calls himself a lesbian) then she ( the real lesbian) will be called transphobic.

It's just insane. :-X

Tigger was right.....it's complicated. ;D






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« Reply #57 on: 24 November 2021, 16:51:32 »

No one will be called anything for refusing to have sex with anyone else. I might refuse to have sex with a man, any man, but that doesn't make me homophobic. Your reasoning is way out.
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« Reply #58 on: 24 November 2021, 16:53:14 »

No one will be called anything for refusing to have sex with anyone else. I might refuse to have sex with a man, any man, but that doesn't make me homophobic. Your reasoning is way out.
The other man might not see it that way...
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« Reply #59 on: 24 November 2021, 16:55:22 »

No one will be called anything for refusing to have sex with anyone else. I might refuse to have sex with a man, any man, but that doesn't make me homophobic. Your reasoning is way out.
The other man might not see it that way...
Nonsense.
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