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[Mr Skrunts]

Seen this posted a few times today about £1000 fines for opening the car door wrong.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/new-highway-code-rule-fine-22818984?fbclid=IwAR3J3-71n_CZa7IUtasGZ3qq5xpNysGDWVfvDLQWaMUso5pqvfNL-bq5xf0

When are they changeing the rules that all wheeled vehicles must have insurance and the road user has been certified to use the roads correctly.

[dave the builder]

it used to be in the highway code that when passing cars you should allow a doors width minimum .
I've not read the HWC recently ,other than news items about changes .
I think there will be lots more accidents due to the latest mad rule changes,
 which are clearly being put in place to protect stupid people 
It's against Darwin's Law of Evolution

[Rangie]

Are we going to see hundreds of Police Officers deployed to observe drivers opening their car doors with the correct hand ?
What a load of boll ocks.

[johnnydog]

It has been offence to negligently open a car door and cause injury to any person for years.
This amendment to the Highway Code is try to prevent further injuries or accidents by trying to 'educate' drivers to check behind them before opening their car doors.
Nothing particularly new in my opinion.

"It is an offence to open, or cause or permit to be opened, a car door so as to injure or endanger anyone (section 105, The Roads Vehicles (Constructions and Use) Regulations 1986 and section 42, Road Traffic Act 1988)"

This is thus expressed as a ‘MUST’ in Rule 239 of the HC, which states that you “MUST ensure you do not hit anyone when you open your door”, with further advice to “check for cyclists or other traffic”.

This rule, however, is not well-known or publicised, and fails to adequately alert drivers to the specific risks to cyclists and motorcyclists if car doors are opened into the road without looking behind first.

[STEMO]

Are we going to see hundreds of Police Officers deployed to observe drivers opening their car doors with the correct hand ?
What a load of boll ocks.

Yes, Mick. I think we're starting to realise that everything from covid figures to rules of the road to percentage of people who are trans, etc, is absolute nonsense and bears no relation to the real world. The media are leading us on a merry dance and I, like you, am starting to take less and less notice of it.
Dangerous to take notice and dangerous to ignore, I suppose, but that's the way it is.

[johnnydog]

Or has April 1st come round sooner than I thought....?

[Lizzie Zoom]

Are we going to see hundreds of Police Officers deployed to observe drivers opening their car doors with the correct hand ?
What a load of boll ocks.

Very true

There are not enough traffic officers at the moment to police all the other breaches of law, but certain people in suits, in offices, obviously think there is!

The situation with police number is slowly improving back to somewhere near 2010 levels, but they are a long way off of being able to man the number of patrol cars we need out there.

[STEMO]

It has been offence to negligently open a car door and cause injury to any person for years.
This amendment to the Highway Code is try to prevent further injuries or accidents by trying to 'educate' drivers to check behind them before opening their car doors.
Nothing particularly new in my opinion.

"It is an offence to open, or cause or permit to be opened, a car door so as to injure or endanger anyone (section 105, The Roads Vehicles (Constructions and Use) Regulations 1986 and section 42, Road Traffic Act 1988)"

This is thus expressed as a ‘MUST’ in Rule 239 of the HC, which states that you “MUST ensure you do not hit anyone when you open your door”, with further advice to “check for cyclists or other traffic”.

This rule, however, is not well-known or publicised, and fails to adequately alert drivers to the specific risks to cyclists and motorcyclists if car doors are opened into the road without looking behind first.

Who opens their car door without looking? Idiots. Will a media campaign make any difference to idiots? No.

[Lizzie Zoom]

It has been offence to negligently open a car door and cause injury to any person for years.
This amendment to the Highway Code is try to prevent further injuries or accidents by trying to 'educate' drivers to check behind them before opening their car doors.
Nothing particularly new in my opinion.

"It is an offence to open, or cause or permit to be opened, a car door so as to injure or endanger anyone (section 105, The Roads Vehicles (Constructions and Use) Regulations 1986 and section 42, Road Traffic Act 1988)"

This is thus expressed as a ‘MUST’ in Rule 239 of the HC, which states that you “MUST ensure you do not hit anyone when you open your door”, with further advice to “check for cyclists or other traffic”.

This rule, however, is not well-known or publicised, and fails to adequately alert drivers to the specific risks to cyclists and motorcyclists if car doors are opened into the road without looking behind first.

Who opens their car door without looking? Idiots. Will a media campaign make any difference to idiots? No.

It is meant to make us change our ways and open doors with the left hand so the left arm goes across the right hand and arm forcing us to look behind and not just in our door mirrors.  I suppose we have to cater for all the idiots on the road!

[dave the builder]

Are we going to see hundreds of Police Officers deployed to observe drivers opening their car doors with the correct hand ?
What a load of boll ocks.

Very true

There are not enough traffic officers at the moment to police all the other breaches of law, but certain people in suits, in offices, obviously think there is!

The situation with police number is slowly improving back to somewhere near 2010 levels, but they are a long way off of being able to man the number of patrol cars we need out there.

If there are not enough police to enforce the highway code then perhaps they should have an online self certification system so that stupid people who break the highway code can report themselves 

[Rangie]

Are we going to see hundreds of Police Officers deployed to observe drivers opening their car doors with the correct hand ?
What a load of boll ocks.

Yes, Mick. I think we're starting to realise that everything from covid figures to rules of the road to percentage of people who are trans, etc, is absolute nonsense and bears no relation to the real world. The media are leading us on a merry dance and I, like you, am starting to take less and less notice of it.
Dangerous to take notice and dangerous to ignore, I suppose, but that's the way it is.

. 

My attitude now is I've got this far in life with a bit of commonsense & I simply refuse to be taken in  by all the nonsense being spouted by " educated idiots" facts & figures that simply cannot be proven one way or the other . I don't know if you have watched After Life ( Netflix ) but I am becoming more like the main character every day. 😄

[STEMO]

Are we going to see hundreds of Police Officers deployed to observe drivers opening their car doors with the correct hand ?
What a load of boll ocks.

Yes, Mick. I think we're starting to realise that everything from covid figures to rules of the road to percentage of people who are trans, etc, is absolute nonsense and bears no relation to the real world. The media are leading us on a merry dance and I, like you, am starting to take less and less notice of it.
Dangerous to take notice and dangerous to ignore, I suppose, but that's the way it is.

. 

My attitude now is I've got this far in life with a bit of commonsense & I simply refuse to be taken in  by all the nonsense being spouted by " educated idiots" facts & figures that simply cannot be proven one way or the other . I don't know if you have watched After Life ( Netflix ) but I am becoming more like the main character every day. 😄

I've been like that all my life......never did me any harm 

[Mr Skrunts]

Common sence says you allways check before you open a door.

What hacks me off is the fact that 90% of cyclists abuse the roads & traffic lights and pedestians just walk across a junction with a phone against thier ear and dont even look where they are going.  I can just imagine the attitude change with the new laws.

[STEMO]

Common sence says you allways check before you open a door.

What hacks me off is the fact that 90% of cyclists abuse the roads & traffic lights and pedestians just walk across a junction with a phone against thier ear and dont even look where they are going.  I can just imagine the attitude change with the new laws.

Highway Code rule number 101: If you knock a cyclist off his bike, stop, return to the scene of the accident and wrench his go pro from his helmet while he lies moaning on the ground.

[Rangie]

When I did my driving course for the LAS my instructor said if you treat every other motorist as a complete idiot you won't go far wrong, words I've remembered for 45 years , and it's worked.