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[GaryC2.5td]

Well I was busy today just made a sump guard for my omega  Getting it galvanised next week 

[omega3000]

Thats nice heavy duty job there 

[TheBoy]

Needs a hole for the drain plug, else it becomes a PITA. Also, if a V6, need access to filter.  Unless you plan on removing it every time you change the oil 

Although I have knocked a sump plug cleanly out before, I don't think the Omega needs a sump guard, unless you live up a farm track, in which case a Land Rover may be a better options

Are you scraping the front enough to need one? Might be worth checking the springs and shocks for aging, causing a bit of sagging.

[albitz]

Pressing on down Irish country roads,it will always be a good idea to have one.
See pic below for visual explanation.

[05omegav6]

Is that a perm you're wearing Albs

[albitz]

Not quite,just 1970,s style long hair.It would be nice to have the option nowadays.

[Varche]

Gosh I could have done with a sumpguard on both my last two Omegas

On one the sump drain plug was so badly damaged I had to do oil changes via suction method.

[Rods2]

That would be useful in the Ukraine. 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

It would be excellent for rallying!

[symes]

It would be excellent for rallying!

the guard or the Omega

[Lizzie_Zoom]

It would be excellent for rallying!

the guard or the Omega

Well, I must say Symes I would love to drive a miggy, suitably modified, in a rally.  Anyone sponsor me?  I can handle a car at 150 mph, and on rally type roads

[symes]

Wow fair play to you Myself inly do straight lines A quarter mile at a time

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Wow fair play to you Myself inly do straight lines A quarter mile at a time

I was only joking Symes........not about the 150 mph...............but rallying  

[symes]

Why?? I think women are bloody good at motor sports and you would probably be much better than me at rallying 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Why?? I think women are bloody good at motor sports and you would probably be much better than me at rallying 

Well I have had my moments of country road "madness", especially when I drove Escort's!

Once drove a Ford Cortina 100 miles in one hour on A roads; yes that's right, but I was younger, with no children on board and stupidly racing to meet a business deadline.

Trouble was in those days I was always driving hundreds of miles to meet business deadlines, at a very high speed average, but amazingly never wrote myself or anyone else off.  Had lucky escapes, but never hit a thing.  Would never do that now though.  Just a bit wiser and without business pressures.  It was never worth the risk, but that is how it was.
 

[GaryC2.5td]

like your style Albitz!!

Pressing on down Irish country roads,it will always be a good idea to have one.
See pic below for visual explanation.

i don't plan on a hole for the sump plug cause its only held on with 4 easy accessible bolts but wouldn't be a big job to drill a hole . and i think a sump guard is so so so so necessary Irish roads, they are desperate and the sump is so low on my 2.5td. i love driving in England your roads are so good your back roads are better than our national roads. and plus i plan on lowering the car a bit so need a guard. and already broke the sump twice    

[Vamps]

Gosh I could have done with a sumpguard on both my last two Omegas On one the sump drain plug was so badly damaged I had to do oil changes via suction method.

Roo bars would have been good for us as our last Mig was written off by a dear that decided to jump out in front of swmbo.....very little visible damage but not a cost effective repair......    She still misses it now, it was a 1998 2.0L GLS estate, she now has a 2.6 CDX saloon......no pleasing her........

[GaryC2.5td]

ouch hard look mate 

[05omegav6]

At risk of asking the obvious, surely, if the car is already lowered and you've broken 2 sumps already, then surely you would either slow down a bit or raise the suspension, and not lower it further would the guard not just end up being scraped along the floor and smashed up into the sump anyway

[Kevin Wood]

Pressing on down Irish country roads,it will always be a good idea to have one.
See pic below for visual explanation.

I notice the windscreen wipers are on. Another necessity on Irish roads.

A mate of mine managed to smash his Caterham dry sump (so about 3" deep) over there. Mind you, I looked at the datalog from his car afterwards and his speed appeared to have been fluctuating between about 90 and 140 at the time.

EDIT: Actually, it does rather look like Billy Connolly is at the wheel.

[albitz]

Iirc it was july/august so just the usual light drizzle Kevin.
I didnt look like Billy Connoly.The car had started its descent,but my hair (being much lighter) hadnt caught up with it.

[TheBoy]

Why?? I think women are bloody good at motor sports and you would probably be much better than me at rallying 

Well I have had my moments of country road "madness", especially when I drove Escort's!

Once drove a Ford Cortina 100 miles in one hour on A roads; yes that's right, but I was younger, with no children on board and stupidly racing to meet a business deadline.

Trouble was in those days I was always driving hundreds of miles to meet business deadlines, at a very high speed average, but amazingly never wrote myself or anyone else off.  Had lucky escapes, but never hit a thing.  Would never do that now though.  Just a bit wiser and without business pressures.  It was never worth the risk, but that is how it was.

Clearly not trying hard enough, Ms Zoom

Although the only 2 personal cars I've had written off where both No Fault claims...  ...this being the most recent 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Why?? I think women are bloody good at motor sports and you would probably be much better than me at rallying 

Well I have had my moments of country road "madness", especially when I drove Escort's!

Once drove a Ford Cortina 100 miles in one hour on A roads; yes that's right, but I was younger, with no children on board and stupidly racing to meet a business deadline.

Trouble was in those days I was always driving hundreds of miles to meet business deadlines, at a very high speed average, but amazingly never wrote myself or anyone else off.  Had lucky escapes, but never hit a thing.  Would never do that now though.  Just a bit wiser and without business pressures.  It was never worth the risk, but that is how it was.

Clearly not trying hard enough, Ms Zoom

Although the only 2 personal cars I've had written off where both No Fault claims...  ...this being the most recent 

Ouch TB!!

Front and back

At least it was just a Rover!

[TheBoy]

Ouch TB!!

Still hurts, 9.5 months later. Mind you, the medical profession are universally useless 

Front and back

And side

At least it was just a Rover!

Best car we've ever owned, based on mileage we did in it, length of time we owned it, reliability, and maintence required. Add in the old girls performance (better than any other 1.6 I've had the displeasure to drive) and its unbeatable handling...

[Lizzie_Zoom]

These were my last two 'Non Fault' write-off's:

Rammed from rear whilst stationery for a 999 police car (many great witnesses!!)



............and an old codger who's foot "slipped" on the accelerator in a Sainsbury's car park:




Insurance tried to write this car off, but I very loudly protested and accused the garage assessor of some type of fraud, then another garage repaired it without fuss and cheaply for my insurance company!!

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Ouch TB!!

Still hurts, 9.5 months later. Mind you, the medical profession are universally useless 

Front and back

And side

At least it was just a Rover!

Best car we've ever owned, based on mileage we did in it, length of time we owned it, reliability, and maintence required. Add in the old girls performance (better than any other 1.6 I've had the displeasure to drive) and its unbeatable handling...

Wow!  That really amazes me TB!

I must admit after the great Rover cars pre 1970s, I rather dismissed any of those cars, especially once the Japanese became involved and robbed them of their pedigree.

[GaryC2.5td]

At risk of asking the obvious, surely, if the car is already lowered and you've broken 2 sumps already, then surely you would either slow down a bit or raise the suspension, and not lower it further would the guard not just end up being scraped along the floor and smashed up into the sump anyway

the car isn't lowered yet and the plate is 6 mm thick it wont buckle too easy. and cause there are bends in the steel that will help it be stronger and  wont let it buckle as easy. my dad put a sump guard on his kit car west field cause the sump is about 3" off the ground and he made it out of 4 mm plate and that's holding up perfect and that scraps the road alot 

[Lizzie_Zoom]

At risk of asking the obvious, surely, if the car is already lowered and you've broken 2 sumps already, then surely you would either slow down a bit or raise the suspension, and not lower it further would the guard not just end up being scraped along the floor and smashed up into the sump anyway

the car isn't lowered yet and the plate is 6 mm thick it wont buckle too easy. and cause there are bends in the steel that will help it be stronger and  wont let it buckle as easy. my dad put a sump guard on his kit car west field cause the sump is about 3" off the ground and he made it out of 4 mm plate and that's holding up perfect and that scraps the road alot

Sorry if I appear unsympathetic as what you do with your car is your business........but.........
why would you lower a suspension to a point where your car keeps grounding, unless it is going to be used solely on a race track?

I just cannot see the point.  What is it please if I may ask?

[TheBoy]

At risk of asking the obvious, surely, if the car is already lowered and you've broken 2 sumps already, then surely you would either slow down a bit or raise the suspension, and not lower it further would the guard not just end up being scraped along the floor and smashed up into the sump anyway

the car isn't lowered yet and the plate is 6 mm thick it wont buckle too easy. and cause there are bends in the steel that will help it be stronger and  wont let it buckle as easy. my dad put a sump guard on his kit car west field cause the sump is about 3" off the ground and he made it out of 4 mm plate and that's holding up perfect and that scraps the road alot

Sorry if I appear unsympathetic as what you do with your car is your business........but.........
why would you lower a suspension to a point where your car keeps grounding, unless it is going to be used solely on a race track?

I just cannot see the point.  What is it please if I may ask?

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[GaryC2.5td]

see all kit cars are just that low and cant really rise them up and it is  used on the track as well as the road. i don't plan on dropping my omega that low at all. in fact was only thinking of lowering the back a small bit 

[TheBoy]

Ouch TB!!

Still hurts, 9.5 months later. Mind you, the medical profession are universally useless 

Front and back

And side

At least it was just a Rover!

Best car we've ever owned, based on mileage we did in it, length of time we owned it, reliability, and maintence required. Add in the old girls performance (better than any other 1.6 I've had the displeasure to drive) and its unbeatable handling...

Wow!  That really amazes me TB!

I must admit after the great Rover cars pre 1970s, I rather dismissed any of those cars, especially once the Japanese became involved and robbed them of their pedigree.

The Japanese brought in a lot of design and reliability. They also managed to instil pride in the workforce, which meant most of the stuff sent out of the factories no longer fell to bits.  Honda were making Rover better and better in a competitive world. Then BMW came in and asset stripped the lot 

[TheBoy]

see all kit cars are just that low and cant really rise them up and it is  used on the track as well as the road. i don't plan on dropping my omega that low at all. in fact was only thinking of lowering the back a small bit 

30mm (from standard, 15mm from LSC) is about the maximum to lower an Omega. Irmscher springs and B4 shocks are a good setup.  Any lower, you're always scrapping cats, diffs and everything else under the car. Not to mention skirts, tailpipes, bumpers and splitters if you have Irmscher bodykits.

[GaryC2.5td]

see all kit cars are just that low and cant really rise them up and it is  used on the track as well as the road. i don't plan on dropping my omega that low at all. in fact was only thinking of lowering the back a small bit 

30mm (from standard, 15mm from LSC) is about the maximum to lower an Omega. Irmscher springs and B4 shocks are a good setup.  Any lower, you're always scrapping cats, diffs and everything else under the car. Not to mention skirts, tailpipes, bumpers and splitters if you have Irmscher bodykits.

ya that's what i thought i just want the wheel to fill the arch a bit more. i was thinking coil over kit for it more than lowering springs so i can adjust them as i please    are there any good coil over kits that anyone would recommend?

[Lizzie_Zoom]

see all kit cars are just that low and cant really rise them up and it is  used on the track as well as the road. i don't plan on dropping my omega that low at all. in fact was only thinking of lowering the back a small bit 

Ah, right thanks.  Now I understand

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Ouch TB!!

Still hurts, 9.5 months later. Mind you, the medical profession are universally useless 

Front and back

And side

At least it was just a Rover!

Best car we've ever owned, based on mileage we did in it, length of time we owned it, reliability, and maintence required. Add in the old girls performance (better than any other 1.6 I've had the displeasure to drive) and its unbeatable handling...

Wow!  That really amazes me TB!

I must admit after the great Rover cars pre 1970s, I rather dismissed any of those cars, especially once the Japanese became involved and robbed them of their pedigree.

The Japanese brought in a lot of design and reliability. They also managed to instil pride in the workforce, which meant most of the stuff sent out of the factories no longer fell to bits.  Honda were making Rover better and better in a competitive world. Then BMW came in and asset stripped the lot 

In that case it is a shame they went under TB!

..............and we all know what BMW stands for, and I won't spell it out as I don't won't to get banned!!