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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Entwood on 06 August 2018, 15:54:42
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Was chatting over the weekend over the odd beer or three with similar tin-tent users, discussing what I would replace the omega with when it eventually reached the point of no repair, remembering my requirements of:
Saloon, petrol, at least 230 bhp, min weight 1900 Kgs, self levelling suspension, ability to fit a towbar, preferably the ability to LPG and still have a reasonably usable boot, rear wheel drive (4 wheel drive considered)
and the suggestion was made that an Audi A8 would fit the specs .... now I know nowt about these ... any one any knowledge of them regarding reliability, running costs etc etc .. ?? would be looking at something around 4-5 years old, so 2014/2015 reg
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Will watch with interest, as I do like the A8 interior. Feel they are well laid out and everything feels solid.
From my VW days, you can get the "VCDS" software (was VAGCOM) which means you have tech2 level of code reading, you can code up/enable any missing features, as well as full proper scans across all hardware units.
I think you will struggle for petrol for 2014 onwards, you would probably need to look at 10 year old examples, as you would get the 4.2 V8 petrols. (unless you want to spend £30k+)
As with emissions based tests, the smaller turbo charged engines have to be used. So probably looking at 3.0 petrol engines, otherwise it's bonkers S8 type ones.
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I could be tempted by something like this A8 to scratch that V8 ich, if I lost the 3.2:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201807168488853?sort=price-asc&fuel-type=Petrol&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&postcode=tw89de&model=A8&make=AUDI&advertising-location=at_cars&year-from=2005&radius=1500&page=2 (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201807168488853?sort=price-asc&fuel-type=Petrol&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&postcode=tw89de&model=A8&make=AUDI&advertising-location=at_cars&year-from=2005&radius=1500&page=2)
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BMW 5/7 series or Merc E/S Class...
If you must go VAG, five year old dsg notwithstanding, then you can't rule out the 3.6 Superb.
Petrol does rather limit your choices somewhat. That said, the sort of budget you are looking at could see a Holden VE/F Calais landed, which is probably the closest thing to an actual Omega replacement on the planet... Both in 3.6 and 6.0 guises.
Cadillac CTS, STS also left field options.
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BMW 5/7 series or Merc E/S Class...
If you must go VAG, five year old dsg notwithstanding, then you can't rule out the 3.6 Superb.
Petrol does rather limit your choices somewhat. That said, the sort of budget you are looking at could see a Holden VE/F Calais landed, which is probably the closest thing to an actual Omega replacement on the planet... Both in 3.6 and 6.0 guises.
Cadillac CTS, STS also left field options.
Online research.... whilst drinking and using a smart phone .. seemed to show that the bmw / merc offerings are all around 1600 kgs, which means the tin-tent loaded (1690 kgs) would weigh more than the towcar .. not something I wish to aim for, hence the 1800 - 1900 kg target. Audi LPG looks unlikely as they all seem to be TFSI in petrol versions.
Holden appears a non-starter as there is no type certified towbar available.
Although not actively looking to change right now,... this is the "sort" of thing that arouses a little interest ...
https://www.sytner.co.uk/audi/car-search/8915803-1094405-audi-a8-3-0-tfsi-quattro-se-executive-4dr-tip-auto/
:)
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BMW 5/7 series or Merc E/S Class...
If you must go VAG, five year old dsg notwithstanding, then you can't rule out the 3.6 Superb.
Petrol does rather limit your choices somewhat. That said, the sort of budget you are looking at could see a Holden VE/F Calais landed, which is probably the closest thing to an actual Omega replacement on the planet... Both in 3.6 and 6.0 guises.
Cadillac CTS, STS also left field options.
Online research.... whilst drinking and using a smart phone .. seemed to show that the bmw / merc offerings are all around 1600 kgs, which means the tin-tent loaded (1690 kgs) would weigh more than the towcar .. not something I wish to aim for, hence the 1800 - 1900 kg target. Audi LPG looks unlikely as they all seem to be TFSI in petrol versions.
Holden appears a non-starter as there is no type certified towbar available.
Although not actively looking to change right now,... this is the "sort" of thing that arouses a little interest ...
https://www.sytner.co.uk/audi/car-search/8915803-1094405-audi-a8-3-0-tfsi-quattro-se-executive-4dr-tip-auto/
:)
Prins do a system (Liquimax) for direct injection petrol. I know nothing more about it than that however.
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I think I mentioned Infiniti, but if memory serves there was a problem with towing.
Can't remember exactly what. :-\
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BTW, Lexus LS460?
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BTW, Lexus LS460?
Can't tow.... Jap's don't do burger vans.
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BTW, Lexus LS460?
This :y
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BTW, Lexus LS460?
Can't tow.... Jap's don't do burger vans.
Bullshit....
Try researching before posting ;)
http://www.uktow.com/towing%20capacity.asp?make=Lexus&model1=LS%20460
AWD too :y
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I think I mentioned Infiniti, but if memory serves there was a problem with towing.
Can't remember exactly what. :-\
aren't they a DSG type automated manual?
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BMW 5/7 series or Merc E/S Class...
If you must go VAG, five year old dsg notwithstanding, then you can't rule out the 3.6 Superb.
Petrol does rather limit your choices somewhat. That said, the sort of budget you are looking at could see a Holden VE/F Calais landed, which is probably the closest thing to an actual Omega replacement on the planet... Both in 3.6 and 6.0 guises.
Cadillac CTS, STS also left field options.
Online research.... whilst drinking and using a smart phone .. seemed to show that the bmw / merc offerings are all around 1600 kgs, which means the tin-tent loaded (1690 kgs) would weigh more than the towcar .. not something I wish to aim for, hence the 1800 - 1900 kg target. Audi LPG looks unlikely as they all seem to be TFSI in petrol versions.
Holden appears a non-starter as there is no type certified towbar available.
Although not actively looking to change right now,... this is the "sort" of thing that arouses a little interest ...
https://www.sytner.co.uk/audi/car-search/8915803-1094405-audi-a8-3-0-tfsi-quattro-se-executive-4dr-tip-auto/
:)
Holden available ex factory with towbar and lpg ;)
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BTW, Lexus LS460?
Can't tow.... Jap's don't do burger vans.
Bullshit....
Try researching before posting ;)
http://www.uktow.com/towing%20capacity.asp?make=Lexus&model1=LS%20460
AWD too :y
Why swear? Seriously.
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UK TOW are notorious for giving out crap information ... :(
Lexus state that there is no towbar available for the 460, and both the Westfalia and Brink sites .. the biggest towbar manufacturers in UK .. state no type approved bar for the LS460 :(
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UK TOW are notorious for giving out crap information ... :(
Lexus state that there is no towbar available for the 460, and both the Westfalia and Brink sites .. the biggest towbar manufacturers in UK .. state no type approved bar for the LS460 :(
Yup. This is what I’ve read before on your replacement conundrum. Not thought about earlier V8 petrols? Less depreciation
Shame others resort to aggressive keyboard warrior mode.
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W212 e class estate has self levelling as standard and rated to tow 2,100 kgs
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UK TOW are notorious for giving out crap information ... :(
Lexus state that there is no towbar available for the 460, and both the Westfalia and Brink sites .. the biggest towbar manufacturers in UK .. state no type approved bar for the LS460 :(
Yup. This is what I’ve read before on your replacement conundrum. Not thought about earlier V8 petrols? Less depreciation
Shame others resort to aggressive keyboard warrior mode.
Not rushing to replace .. she might last longer than I expect ... but the other consideration, outside the specification I'm searching for, is reasonably simple ... I'm 67 this year, and I tend to keep cars I like for some time ... this one for example I've had 10 years (purchased in 2008 at 7 years old). Once a car reaches 15 years old getting continental insurance is problematic, so my thoughts run around the idea that I might only be driving for another 13 years or so, getting a car around 3-4 years old will probably see me out, at least for continental touring.
So considering the idea of an "expensive, newish" replacement that will see me out ... Jag was high on the list until I checked the weights ... all around 1600Kgs and very few petrol ones.
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W212 e class estate has self levelling as standard and rated to tow 2,100 kgs
Thanks for the thought, not at all interested in manufacturers "it can tow" dream figures .... I want a towcar that ACTUALLY weighs more than what I'm towing...(kerbweight) manufacturers cannot change the laws of physics, no matter how hard they lie.
Been there done the "it can tow" thing ... Ex military Series 2 Landrover weight around 2500 lb (stripped version for air transport) towing capacity 3.5 ton (7800lbs) .. loaded 4 wheel trailer with 10 x 24 man tents (old fashioned heavy duty canvas jobbers) and their associated poles.pegs etc... pulled it fine, bombing down the road at a steady 50 mph was no problem at all ...... but when the idiot woman with 3 kids in the car in front braked hard to turn left without signalling it all got hairy ... all 4 wheels on the Landy locked, but the inertia of the trailer just kept going .. and going ... and going (luckily in a straight line)... pushed me to within about 2mm of the idiot, how I missed her I have no idea, but it scared me rigid ... I could easily have wiped out the whole family.....
I now think seriously not about "can it pull" but "can it stop" ...... every time I tow something different to the norm. Call me a wimp if you wish, but that's how it is , and how it will stay .. :)
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W212 e class estate has self levelling as standard and rated to tow 2,100 kgs
Thanks for the thought, not at all interested in manufacturers "it can tow" dream figures .... I want a towcar that ACTUALLY weighs more than what I'm towing...(kerbweight) manufacturers cannot change the laws of physics, no matter how hard they lie.
Been there done the "it can tow" thing ... Ex military Series 2 Landrover weight around 2500 lb (stripped version for air transport) towing capacity 3.5 ton (7800lbs) .. loaded 4 wheel trailer with 10 x 24 man tents (old fashioned heavy duty canvas jobbers) and their associated poles.pegs etc... pulled it fine, bombing down the road at a steady 50 mph was no problem at all ...... but when the idiot woman with 3 kids in the car in front braked hard to turn left without signalling it all got hairy ... all 4 wheels on the Landy locked, but the inertia of the trailer just kept going .. and going ... and going (luckily in a straight line)... pushed me to within about 2mm of the idiot, how I missed her I have no idea, but it scared me rigid ... I could easily have wiped out the whole family.....
I now think seriously not about "can it pull" but "can it stop" ...... every time I tow something different to the norm. Call me a wimp if you wish, but that's how it is , and how it will stay .. :)
Is this not down to the quality of brakes on the trailer?
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W212 e class estate has self levelling as standard and rated to tow 2,100 kgs
Thanks for the thought, not at all interested in manufacturers "it can tow" dream figures .... I want a towcar that ACTUALLY weighs more than what I'm towing...(kerbweight) manufacturers cannot change the laws of physics, no matter how hard they lie.
Been there done the "it can tow" thing ... Ex military Series 2 Landrover weight around 2500 lb (stripped version for air transport) towing capacity 3.5 ton (7800lbs) .. loaded 4 wheel trailer with 10 x 24 man tents (old fashioned heavy duty canvas jobbers) and their associated poles.pegs etc... pulled it fine, bombing down the road at a steady 50 mph was no problem at all ...... but when the idiot woman with 3 kids in the car in front braked hard to turn left without signalling it all got hairy ... all 4 wheels on the Landy locked, but the inertia of the trailer just kept going .. and going ... and going (luckily in a straight line)... pushed me to within about 2mm of the idiot, how I missed her I have no idea, but it scared me rigid ... I could easily have wiped out the whole family.....
I now think seriously not about "can it pull" but "can it stop" ...... every time I tow something different to the norm. Call me a wimp if you wish, but that's how it is , and how it will stay .. :)
Is this not down to the quality of brakes on the trailer?
I wonder if the trailer brakes on that thing actually worked at all .. they certainly didn't lock .. but 30 year old military trailers didn't get a lot of TLC in those days ... I was a young sergeant when that happened, so a fair few years back now !! however, the memory remains implanted .. :)
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Towed a 2.2 Omega on a twin axle trailer with it, so pretty much max weight and it was good as gold. Obviously as much to do with how you drive as what ;)
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For Tunnies benefit, my earlier post was between showering and brushing. I often post whilst doing other things... If I have the time to write an essay, I will. Equally if I don't I try to be succinct.
The Japs don't do burger vans smacked of snobbish assumption, hence my choice of words.
Infinity don't do tow bars because the Americans do 99.9% of their towing with v8 pick ups... Even BMW struggle to sanction towing in the US, yet everywhere else tow bars are factory options.
The weight issue is a bigger one as most cars now have a considerable proportion of composite and aluminum in their design.
If you need a heavy tow car, then you might have to buy one... ie a large SUV... A late R Class might do it as a compromise :y
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.... Even BMW struggle to sanction towing in the US, yet everywhere else tow bars are factory options.
Funny how a Smart Fortwo is rated to tow in the States, but not here
.... A late R Class might do it as a compromise :y
I can highly recommend the diseasal version .... though there is a V8 that I really would have liked to justify
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Incidentally...
http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=253426101801&category=33653&pm=1&ds=0&t=1529549587000&ver=0
Fwiw :y
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https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201807098267453
And just to give an idea of age range...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201510087611287
A few more V6 petrols on ebay :y
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Infinity don't do tow bars because..
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https://www.pfjones.co.uk/tow-bars/tow-bars-for-infiniti/infiniti-fx-towbars.html ::) ::)
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Infinity don't do tow bars because..
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https://www.pfjones.co.uk/tow-bars/tow-bars-for-infiniti/infiniti-fx-towbars.html ::) ::)
Even Lexus do tow bars for their SUVs...
Find a saloon one ;)
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https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201807098267453
And just to give an idea of age range...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201510087611287
A few more V6 petrols on ebay :y
Trouble with Merc is that almost everything is an option, The first one is pretty well spec'd ... even has leather, unlike the black face lift that has Artico ie vinyl >:( and though difficult to tell it seems to have Airmatic suspension that again, the face lift doesn't
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Find a saloon one ;)
The dog would object to travelling in the boot ;)
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.... remembering my requirements of:
Saloon, petrol, ...
Why do you specifically want to stay with petrol? I have to admit that my diseasal R Class walks all over my Omega as a tow car. Since I last saw you, we've now got a heavy Coachman twin axle (MTPLM of 1865kg), & while I know it's on the back, the R Class tows it a piece of p
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.... remembering my requirements of:
Saloon, petrol, ...
Why do you specifically want to stay with petrol? I have to admit that my diseasal R Class walks all over my Omega as a tow car. Since I last saw you, we've now got a heavy Coachman twin axle (MTPLM of 1865kg), & while I know it's on the back, the R Class tows it a piece of p
Because derv is dead in the water. :).....and the government is helping with it's demise.
A turbo/SC petrol will have as much torque as a diesel which is the main requirement for dragging a burger van behind the car.
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Because derv is dead in the water. :)
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I very much doubt that white van man, or bus companies or haulage companies would agree ;) ;)
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Because derv is dead in the water. :)
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I very much doubt that white van man, or bus companies or haulage companies would agree ;) ;)
.....but when it comes to members of the public spending their own money on a car many will not buy another diesel. Sales about 30% down, I think.
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Incidentally...
http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=253426101801&category=33653&pm=1&ds=0&t=1529549587000&ver=0
Fwiw :y
US spec, not type approved for UK use... so .. if the car is imported wearing it.. fine .. but if you fit one here ... illegal... :(
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W212 e class estate has self levelling as standard and rated to tow 2,100 kgs
Thanks for the thought, not at all interested in manufacturers "it can tow" dream figures .... I want a towcar that ACTUALLY weighs more than what I'm towing...(kerbweight) manufacturers cannot change the laws of physics, no matter how hard they lie.
Been there done the "it can tow" thing ... Ex military Series 2 Landrover weight around 2500 lb (stripped version for air transport) towing capacity 3.5 ton (7800lbs) .. loaded 4 wheel trailer with 10 x 24 man tents (old fashioned heavy duty canvas jobbers) and their associated poles.pegs etc... pulled it fine, bombing down the road at a steady 50 mph was no problem at all ...... but when the idiot woman with 3 kids in the car in front braked hard to turn left without signalling it all got hairy ... all 4 wheels on the Landy locked, but the inertia of the trailer just kept going .. and going ... and going (luckily in a straight line)... pushed me to within about 2mm of the idiot, how I missed her I have no idea, but it scared me rigid ... I could easily have wiped out the whole family.....
I now think seriously not about "can it pull" but "can it stop" ...... every time I tow something different to the norm. Call me a wimp if you wish, but that's how it is , and how it will stay .. :)
I know what you mean,hence I tow 1800kg Tin tent with 2500kg of four wheel drive with plenty of torque,its the most stable vehicle I've ever towed with and there's been a few, it can tow 3500kg but that doesnt interest me :y
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Pal of mine had an Audi A8 few years back lovely car to ride in & terrific performance but he was put off by the price of repairs/ parts + a few electrical gremlins as well sold it & replaced it with a V8 Discovery which amazingly he has had no problems with.
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Is the modern[ish]A8 the same car as a VW Phaeton or are they totally different animals-seem to recall someone on here had a Phaeton at one time?
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W212 e class estate has self levelling as standard and rated to tow 2,100 kgs
Thanks for the thought, not at all interested in manufacturers "it can tow" dream figures .... I want a towcar that ACTUALLY weighs more than what I'm towing...(kerbweight) manufacturers cannot change the laws of physics, no matter how hard they lie.
Been there done the "it can tow" thing ... Ex military Series 2 Landrover weight around 2500 lb (stripped version for air transport) towing capacity 3.5 ton (7800lbs) .. loaded 4 wheel trailer with 10 x 24 man tents (old fashioned heavy duty canvas jobbers) and their associated poles.pegs etc... pulled it fine, bombing down the road at a steady 50 mph was no problem at all ...... but when the idiot woman with 3 kids in the car in front braked hard to turn left without signalling it all got hairy ... all 4 wheels on the Landy locked, but the inertia of the trailer just kept going .. and going ... and going (luckily in a straight line)... pushed me to within about 2mm of the idiot, how I missed her I have no idea, but it scared me rigid ... I could easily have wiped out the whole family.....
I now think seriously not about "can it pull" but "can it stop" ...... every time I tow something different to the norm. Call me a wimp if you wish, but that's how it is , and how it will stay .. :)
I know what you mean,hence I tow 1800kg Tin tent with 2500kg of four wheel drive with plenty of torque,its the most stable vehicle I've ever towed with and there's been a few, it can tow 3500kg but that doesnt interest me :y
I can relate to that when we bought our van the dealer asked what vehicle we intended to tow with at the time it was the Mig estate , he replied it will pull it but won't stop ! Hence the Terracan which is a terrific tow vehicle.
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V8 Discovery
I really liked the Disco 3 that I had briefly earlier in the year and regret getting rid. ::)
So I had a cunning plan to find a decent V8 Disco 4 and get it LPG'd as a keeper! :y. Only to discover that they didn't do a petrol Disco 4 and the V8 Disco 3's out there are either mega money or are dogs! ::) :(
You can get the new Disco 5 with a 300hp 2 ltr petrol but I haven't got 50 odd grand floating around. ::)
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If going Disco type, I’d prefer a Range Rover
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If going Disco type, I’d prefer a Range Rover
Yes but there's the hedgehog joke! ;D
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Nige obviously doesn't fancy a big SUV/4x4 type thingie? :-\
Maybe he's scarred for life from his days driving Series 2 Landys in the RAF! ;D
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BMW 5/7 series or Merc E/S Class...
If you must go VAG, five year old dsg notwithstanding, then you can't rule out the 3.6 Superb.
Petrol does rather limit your choices somewhat. That said, the sort of budget you are looking at could see a Holden VE/F Calais landed, which is probably the closest thing to an actual Omega replacement on the planet... Both in 3.6 and 6.0 guises.
Cadillac CTS, STS also left field options.
Online research.... whilst drinking and using a smart phone .. seemed to show that the bmw / merc offerings are all around 1600 kgs, which means the tin-tent loaded (1690 kgs) would weigh more than the towcar .. not something I wish to aim for, hence the 1800 - 1900 kg target. Audi LPG looks unlikely as they all seem to be TFSI in petrol versions.
Holden appears a non-starter as there is no type certified towbar available.
Although not actively looking to change right now,... this is the "sort" of thing that arouses a little interest ...
https://www.sytner.co.uk/audi/car-search/8915803-1094405-audi-a8-3-0-tfsi-quattro-se-executive-4dr-tip-auto/
:)
A lot of car for the money.
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If going Disco type, I’d prefer a Range Rover
This. And I know I'm a prick, I don't mind advertising ;)
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Two tonnes of Bavarian ugliness...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201807318992410
Westfalia do a 2,100 kg detachable, certified towbar... Could be a reasonable compromise between exec saloon and SUV :-\ :y
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If going Disco type, I’d prefer a Range Rover
Yes but there's the hedgehog joke! ;D
Maybe, but then you are in massive arm chairs, commanding view and certainly covers the issue of tow car being far heavier.
Petrol though is just impractical, but fair few get LPG’d
I drove JoshW’s supercharged 5.0 that would be spectacular at towing!
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Two tonnes of Bavarian ugliness...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201807318992410
Westfalia do a 2,100 kg detachable, certified towbar... Could be a reasonable compromise between exec saloon and SUV :-\ :y
BMW offer a folding towbar as a factory option :y
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Two tonnes of Bavarian ugliness...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201807318992410
Westfalia do a 2,100 kg detachable, certified towbar... Could be a reasonable compromise between exec saloon and SUV :-\ :y
BMW offer a folding towbar as a factory option :y
And have done for years. My 1999 530d has a detachable towbar. :y
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And have done for years. My 1999 530d has a detachable towbar. :y
Detachable of folding? ;)
Merc do an electric folding bar too .... I think they're just factory fit though
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So to sum up, no one really has any experience with the Audi A8. We've suggest a bunch of cars which are not suitable, too light, underpowered, in some cases cannot legally tow. :)
One of the major issues of moving on is lack of technical knowledge on replacements, to the point I think my replacement Omega will be dealer serviced. :(
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And have done for years. My 1999 530d has a detachable towbar. :y
Detachable of folding? ;)
Merc do an electric folding bar too .... I think they're just factory fit though
Ah yes it's detachable. Factory fit, which I think is impressive for a 19 year old car. :y
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I believe the A8 is of alloy construction so not the most heavy exec saloon
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And have done for years. My 1999 530d has a detachable towbar. :y
Detachable of folding? ;)
Merc do an electric folding bar too .... I think they're just factory fit though
One on my E Class was the factory fit one... A mechanical work of art 8)
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How heavy is 1.6 escort? Seen plenty of them towing firkin great burger vans in my time.
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How heavy is 1.6 escort? Seen plenty of them towing firkin great burger vans in my time.
Years ago no-one much cared ::)
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How heavy is 1.6 escort? Seen plenty of them towing firkin great burger vans in my time.
Years ago no-one much cared ::)
People are more risk averse these days. :-\
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I just bought a replacement tow car the other week. After looking at Practical caravan website decided to purchase a secondhand Kia Sedona as it is a heavyweight in the caravan pulling stakes. Only cost £3500 and fully loaded. Pulls the caravan really well, but it is a deisel.
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If your going to live the traveling lifestyle, just buy a low roof swb transit, then you can get into carparks for the weekend with the rest of the family entourage.
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How heavy is 1.6 escort? Seen plenty of them towing firkin great burger vans in my time.
Years ago no-one much cared ::)
People are more risk averse these days. :-\
Nah,towing laws changed :y
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Chrysler 300c? RWD and comes with a 3.5 v6.
Or a late model Jaguar S-type R, that'd get yer crockery sliding about :y
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...... the Americans do 99.9% of their towing with v8 pick ups...
You should see the size of the trailers that those good ole boys tow over there with their pickups! :o
I don't know anything about US towing rules and regs, but you could easily see some of those outfits easily becoming a case of the tail wagging the dog! :-X ::)
Nige wouldn't like it! ;) ;D
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Let's not muck around, ere goes Nigel, get a pick-up, and then one of these baby's.
http://www.caravantimes.co.uk/news/insurance/caravan-guard-introduces-fifth-wheel-insurance-$21383905.htm
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I personally plan to introduce Chinas towing laws once I come into power.
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Let's not muck around, ere goes Nigel, get a pick-up, and then one of these baby's.
http://www.caravantimes.co.uk/news/insurance/caravan-guard-introduces-fifth-wheel-insurance-$21383905.htm
Linky no worky! ::)
You struggling a bit today Big Griff? :)
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Let's not muck around, ere goes Nigel, get a pick-up, and then one of these baby's.
http://www.caravantimes.co.uk/news/insurance/caravan-guard-introduces-fifth-wheel-insurance-$21383905.htm
Linky no worky! ::)
You struggling a bit today Big Griff? :)
It's the bit at the end with the $ it doesn't like :-\
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clicky (http://www.caravantimes.co.uk/news/insurance/caravan-guard-introduces-fifth-wheel-insurance-$21383905.htm)
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clicky (http://www.caravantimes.co.uk/news/insurance/caravan-guard-introduces-fifth-wheel-insurance-$21383905.htm)
Thank you for your assistance, that Wurzel bullying me again. ;)
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clicky (http://www.caravantimes.co.uk/news/insurance/caravan-guard-introduces-fifth-wheel-insurance-$21383905.htm)
Thank you for your assistance, that Wurzel bullying me again. ;)
:y
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clicky (http://www.caravantimes.co.uk/news/insurance/caravan-guard-introduces-fifth-wheel-insurance-$21383905.htm)
Thank you for your assistance, that Wurzel bullying me again. ;)
That Johnnie waa fella will be adding me to his list of trolls if I'm not careful! :P :D
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-E500-Avantgarde-W211-2004-111k-One-Owner-Demo-/142890588491
Same tax bracket as the Omega too :D
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-E500-Avantgarde-W211-2004-111k-One-Owner-Demo-/142890588491
Same tax bracket as the Omega too :D
Not long till it's tax exempt! :-X
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-E500-Avantgarde-W211-2004-111k-One-Owner-Demo-/142890588491
Same tax bracket as the Omega too :D
These W211 are growing on me, Could be tempted by a E55 AMG. Parts generally seem reasonable. Engine / Transmission appear to be pretty reliable. Probably the most expensive thing to fix would be the air suspension if/when that goes wrong.
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-E500-Avantgarde-W211-2004-111k-One-Owner-Demo-/142890588491
Same tax bracket as the Omega too :D
These W211 are growing on me, Could be tempted by a E55 AMG. Parts generally seem reasonable. Engine / Transmission appear to be pretty reliable. Probably the most expensive thing to fix would be the air suspension if/when that goes wrong.
Trouble is, like every other post 1980s designed Merc, they have really poor chassis, rust like a sod, and have reliability issues
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-E500-Avantgarde-W211-2004-111k-One-Owner-Demo-/142890588491
Same tax bracket as the Omega too :D
These W211 are growing on me, Could be tempted by a E55 AMG. Parts generally seem reasonable. Engine / Transmission appear to be pretty reliable. Probably the most expensive thing to fix would be the air suspension if/when that goes wrong.
Lord Opti has experience of this and it scared him so much he got rid! :)
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If going Disco type, I’d prefer a Range Rover
Yes but there's the hedgehog joke! ;D
Maybe, but then you are in massive arm chairs, commanding view and certainly covers the issue of tow car being far heavier.
Petrol though is just impractical, but fair few get LPG’d
I drove JoshW’s supercharged 5.0 that would be spectacular at towing!
It wasn’t bad ;)
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-E500-Avantgarde-W211-2004-111k-One-Owner-Demo-/142890588491
Same tax bracket as the Omega too :D
These W211 are growing on me, Could be tempted by a E55 AMG. Parts generally seem reasonable. Engine / Transmission appear to be pretty reliable. Probably the most expensive thing to fix would be the air suspension if/when that goes wrong.
Lord Opti has experience of this and it scared him so much he got rid! :)
And bought a V8 Mondeo to replace it... ::)
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The Jaguar S Type R is another that is pretty good value for money. How are these reliability wise say compared to a W211 E55...
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Aren't they troublesome to lpg :-\
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Newer E500...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2010-10-MERCEDES-BENZ-E-CLASS-5-5-E500-SPORT-4D-AUTO-/183215310237
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Aren't they troublesome to lpg :-\
S-Type R? Only if you don't understand how a solenoid operated fuel return works afaik
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Aren't they troublesome to lpg :-\
S-Type R? Only if you don't understand how a solenoid operated fuel return works afaik
Fair dos, there was mention of it a good while back and iirc, some talk of lpg being a problem... Never really got to the specifics though as the rest of the car wasn't great :-\
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Usual stories, no fuel return, underperforming (250-300bhp) kits and people wonder why they run like sh!t. ::)
FWIW I quite liked the S-Type and as it ages it looks less and less ugly ;)
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I guess part of the lpg problem is that we are so used to Stag 300+ here that we forget how much everything has moved forward, so viable solutions to previous challenges are now tried and tested... :-\
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I thought of this thread earlier today when I saw a Discovery Sport towing a massive twin axle caravan. ::)
According to Google the Discovery Sport is rated to tow up to 2200 kgs and although it was a huge caravan I doubt it weighed over that, but it just looked all wrong. :-\
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I doubt it weighed over that, but it just looked all wrong. :-\
You mean it looked under-horsed for the task? If it were my money, I'd be going for an e-class with at least 6 cylinders, powered by either fuel.
Unless you want to pitch in grass-only sites, in which case something AWD/4wd would be the required.
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I doubt it weighed over that, but it just looked all wrong. :-\
You mean it looked under-horsed for the task? If it were my money, I'd be going for an e-class with at least 6 cylinders, powered by either fuel.
Unless you want to pitch in grass-only sites, in which case something AWD/4wd would be the required.
4wd E Class is readily available... Likewise BMW ;)
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4wd E Class is readily available... Likewise BMW ;)
Interesting, I knew about the x-drives, wasn't aware the E had an AWD offering in the UK.
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They've been pushing it in the A and C Class, as they're the bigger sellers, but the E Class has always had at least one 4 matic option since the W124 was launched ;)
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Admittedly only rear wheel drive, but this...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201807248737136?advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=rh202dg&model=E%20CLASS&drivetrain=Four%20Wheel%20Drive&sort=price-asc&page=1&make=MERCEDES-BENZ&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used
... Would tow a medium sized house with 335 bhp/500+lb/ft... Weighs 1,950 kgs too.
Most of the 4matics seem to be nearly new 220 cdi :-\
That said, look to be estate only.
Most interesting 4 matic with a petrol engine...
https://www.mercedes-benz.net/p/uk/en/used-cars/mercedes-amg-c-43-4matic-estate/f853a09628d9e335bb0421b0c8fcc8a4?owda=misc&pid=MBUK_UC_UCL_CTA_190216 what it doesn't weigh, it makes up for with traction and grunt :D
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I doubt it weighed over that, but it just looked all wrong. :-\
You mean it looked under-horsed for the task? If it were my money, I'd be going for an e-class with at least 6 cylinders, powered by either fuel.
Unless you want to pitch in grass-only sites, in which case something AWD/4wd would be the required.
No I'm sure it had plenty of grunt, but it just looked weird. ::)
The van was huge and looked like it should be pulled by a big 4x4 like a full fat Rangie, Toyota Land Cruiser etc not a small SUV. :-\
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Disco Sport is hardly small :-\
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Disco Sport is hardly small :-\
It's hardly sporty either! ::) Should have been called Freelander 3! ;)
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You want to watch the Transporter films (3 of them) with Jason Statham
His favourite mode of transport is an Audi A8 V12 - wow
I’d love one but the Mrs says I’ve enough motors with 2 x PFL MV6 and a MK1 Golf GTi
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Many thanks for all the ideas/points of view .. even if some of them don't fit the "specification" ..... :)
Just to continue the research so far .. and working on petrol only ... as I don't have a ship licence ...
BMW ... only the 7 series, and from 735i upwards... weight 1860kg everything else is too light unless you go for the 535 GT option ... not sure the hatchback would work with the amount of kit I carry in the boot, and LPG would certainly not work with a hatchback
Mercedes ... only the S series s350 upwards weight 1840 kgs everything else too light
Jaguar XF .. most are 1635 kgs .. too light until V8 at 1780 kgs (nearly 1800 ... :) )
Jaguar XJ .... all diesel until the 5.0 V8 @ 1892 kgs
Audi everything A7 and below max at 1740 kgs, so left with A8 3.0 TFSI 1830 Kgs
Lexus LS ... start at 1830 kgs but prices are stupid and very few 2014 ish around
can't think of any other rear / 4 wheel drive saloons .. can you .... ? :)
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Tesla Model S...
But it's not petrol ::)
Or go old school...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1994-Mercedes-Benz-S500-W140-SWB-Superb-Condition-FSH-Great-Spec-/323393790348
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Tesla Model S...
But it's not petrol ::)
Can you imagine just how limited the range would be with 1700 kgs of tin tent on the back !! ....... although in ludicrous mode it could break the speed limit for towing pretty easily ..... :)
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It's a heavy lump too :D
PS edited my previous ;)
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Joking aside,
https://electrek.co/2018/07/31/tesla-model-3-towing-capacity/
Weighs just shy of 2 tonnes ;)
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It's a heavy lump too :D
PS edited my previous ;)
methinks 1994 is a tad older than 4 years ??? :)
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Tesla Model S...
But it's not petrol ::)
Can you imagine just how limited the range would be with 1700 kgs of tin tent on the back !! ....... although in ludicrous mode it could break the speed limit for towing pretty easily ..... :)
Those who have done it reckon you get about 125 miles from an X towing a pikey house. S isn't type approved to tow in the UK I don't think
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Throwing it out there.....
Use hotels, then you can have any car you want :D :P
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It's a heavy lump too :D
PS edited my previous ;)
methinks 1994 is a tad older than 4 years ??? :)
That's the only criteria that it doesn't meet... Will tow 1,900-2,100 kgs depending on the bar type. :y
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Throwing it out there.....
Use hotels, then you can have any car you want :D :P
As much as I hate pikey vans, I hate hotels just as much. Bloody 'orrid places.
They serve a purpose if you need an overnight stop, but spending a few days in one is my idea of hell on earth.
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Throwing it out there.....
Use hotels, then you can have any car you want :D :P
As much as I hate pikey vans, I hate hotels just as much. Bloody 'orrid places.
They serve a purpose if you need an overnight stop, but spending a few days in one is my idea of hell on earth.
So how would spending a few nights in a hotel with my avatar rank? ::) ::) ::)
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Probably the same as I would rank it. I would need a bottle of whisky and a bucket of paracetamol, as that would be the better option. ::)
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Throwing it out there.....
Use hotels, then you can have any car you want :D :P
As much as I hate pikey vans, I hate hotels just as much. Bloody 'orrid places.
They serve a purpose if you need an overnight stop, but spending a few days in one is my idea of hell on earth.
So how would spending a few nights in a hotel with my avatar rank? ::) ::) ::)
It would cure the world, one less thick, ugly, self-centered, unimportant. waste of oxygen do-gooder chopped into bits and flushed down the potty (after I'd shat on her) can only ever be a good thing.
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Throwing it out there.....
Use hotels, then you can have any car you want :D :P
As much as I hate pikey vans, I hate hotels just as much. Bloody 'orrid places.
They serve a purpose if you need an overnight stop, but spending a few days in one is my idea of hell on earth.
So how would spending a few nights in a hotel with my avatar rank? ::) ::) ::)
It would cure the world, one less thick, ugly, self-centered, unimportant. waste of oxygen do-gooder chopped into bits and flushed down the potty (after I'd shat on her) can only ever be a good thing.
If you are any good between the sheets you may be able to 'cure her feminism' and turn her into a proper woman given a day or two. :)
Although I'm guessing she is a long way down your 'shag list' :D
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She looks like a lad, fraid I'd have to turn her over. ;D
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Phaeton is 2.5 tonnes and 4 wheel drive. Available in petrol and diesel. Never seen one towing though.
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Throwing it out there.....
Use hotels, then you can have any car you want :D :P
As much as I hate pikey vans, I hate hotels just as much. Bloody 'orrid places.
They serve a purpose if you need an overnight stop, but spending a few days in one is my idea of hell on earth.
Sorry, bad choice of words. Villa's then.
Myself and MrsT have really enjoyed Villa holidays, own private pool(s), own house, BBQ etc. To the point that when the kids are old enough, I'll be doing these types of holidays again.
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These are our preference too. Sadly as we have dogs rather than children, these aren't really open to us. Or if they are they're very sub par and over priced.
Hence long term I think we'll be joining the burger van club :/
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Although I'm guessing she is a long way down your 'shag list' :D
Nelson Mandela is higher up the list.
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I realise I'm in danger of steering this thread back on topic, but I followed an XF back from work today that was badged 3.0T AWD. Potentially fit the bill?
One I followed was a shooting brake thing, but I'd guess they do a saloon too.
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Do the XF and XJ have towbar options?
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Do the XF and XJ have towbar options?
Previous XJ did, current model no.
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Do the XF and XJ have towbar options?
Previous XJ did, current model no.
Probably because JLR know they already have the perfect tow car. In fact, a whole range of models...
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Do the XF and XJ have towbar options?
2000kgs for the xf I tnk
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Do the XF and XJ have towbar options?
2000kgs for the xf I tnk
But petrols hard to come by. Although XJ supercharged would be nice option, big space for LPG.
I'm not sure I could base a decision on car ownership, based on what it needs to do for just few weeks a year.
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True. But then again, that's a lot of people's argument for not going electric ;).
Not sure whether the 5.0 is very lpg'able, iirc they're direct injection like the Audi tfsi. If so then your main option is probably liquimax and they don't list the jaaaag as compatible. Shame really but hopefully as DI petrol becomes more common, the kits will follow.
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I'm not sure I could base a decision on car ownership, based on what it needs to do for just few weeks a year.
But given your constant comments about boot space, you already do ;)
In Entwood's case, I think he is a proper Pikey more than "just a few weeks a year" though, so a good towcar is a necessity (irrespective of what sane people think about caravans).
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In Entwood's case, I think he is a proper Pikey more than "just a few weeks a year" though, so a good towcar is a necessity (irrespective of what sane people think about caravans).
If he was a proper Pikey, he'd be buying a white Transit ::) ;D
Or, based on the ones currently parked in our local park ::) 2014 Mercedes E-class, which I think has already been dismissed. Seems to tow their twin-axle six-berth over very uneven (not designed for vehicles, oddly enough, being a football pitch and park) ground just fine, though. ;D
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In Entwood's case, I think he is a proper Pikey more than "just a few weeks a year" though, so a good towcar is a necessity (irrespective of what sane people think about caravans).
If he was a proper Pikey, he'd be buying a white Transit ::) ;D
Or, based on the ones currently parked in our local park ::) 2014 Mercedes E-class, which I think has already been dismissed. Seems to tow their twin-axle six-berth over very uneven (not designed for vehicles, oddly enough, being a football pitch and park) ground just fine, though. ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D
Think E-Class does not fit the basics of being heavier than what he wants to tow....
I'm not sure I could base a decision on car ownership, based on what it needs to do for just few weeks a year.
But given your constant comments about boot space, you already do ;)
Not so, the Zafira tickets mummy bus role. So boot space no longer an issue, to the point I'd consider an Abarth 595 for the commute, but I think I'd get bored of it quickly.
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Not so, the Zafira tickets mummy bus role. So boot space no longer an issue, to the point I'd consider an Abarth 595 for the commute, but I think I'd get bored of it quickly.
Having driven 'er indoorses Smart, I'd consider a Smart Roadster for my commute .. but at least one of us really needs a car with a boot ;D
[edit] And yep, on the E-class. The trouble Entwood is having, I think, is that manufacturers have been trying desperately to make cars lighter for fuel efficiency, so trying to find a 2+ton barge is hard now, unless you look at one of the things he doesn't want (Range Rover etc, Merc R class) for other reasons.
Or a Transit. ;D
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I'd consider a Smart Roadster for my commute .. but at least one of us really needs a car with a boot ;D
[edit] And yep, on the E-class. The trouble Entwood is having, I think, is that manufacturers have been trying desperately to make cars lighter for fuel efficiency, so trying to find a 2+ton barge is hard now, unless you look at one of the things he doesn't want (Range Rover etc, Merc R class) for other reasons.
Or a Transit. ;D
I can highly recommend them both :y :y
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I'm not sure about these myself and it's not a saloon, but not a big 4x4 either, nevertheless it's a big heavy car and in petrol guise I'd imagine it's a beast! :-\
BMW X6? ??? :)
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I'm not sure about these myself and it's not a saloon, but not a big 4x4 either, nevertheless it's a big heavy car and in petrol guise I'd imagine it's a beast! :-\
BMW X6? ??? :)
How is an X6 not a big 4x4? It's a tarted up X5 with extra ugly.
As this thread shows, Nigel requirements for a tow car are old fashioned and will be very difficult to fulfil without him compromising. Personally, I'd be looking at a Discovery, as lots of heavy towing is the only reason I could justify such a car. But I'd probably end up with a Volvo estate, as the FWD doesn't compromise everything.
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I'm not sure about these myself and it's not a saloon, but not a big 4x4 either, nevertheless it's a big heavy car and in petrol guise I'd imagine it's a beast! :-\
BMW X6? ??? :)
How is an X6 not a big 4x4? It's a tarted up X5 with extra ugly.
As this thread shows, Nigel requirements for a tow car are old fashioned and will be very difficult to fulfil without him compromising. Personally, I'd be looking at a Discovery, as lots of heavy towing is the only reason I could justify such a car. But I'd probably end up with a Volvo estate, as the FWD doesn't compromise everything.
I agree with you about the ugliness Nick, but the X6 to my mind looks like a big beast of a car rather than a 4x4. :-\ As said I'm not sure about them. :P
I suggested a Disco earlier in the thread as I think they are great and want another! :y The lack of petrol engines might be a problem for Nige unless he can find a well preserved Disco 3 V8, but they seem like rocking horse shit! ::)
However the 2.7 TDV6 in the Disco 3 is not as agricultural as you might think, and although I havn't driven one, I expect the 3.0 SDV6 in the Disco 4 is even smoother! :y
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As this thread shows, Nigel requirements for a tow car are old fashioned and will be very difficult to fulfil without him compromising. Personally, I'd be looking at a Discovery, as lots of heavy towing is the only reason I could justify such a car. But I'd probably end up with a Volvo estate, as the FWD doesn't compromise everything.
Yep, that might well be next for me given my requirements for a tow car that's not a idiot chariot. ::)
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As this thread shows, Nigel requirements for a tow car are old fashioned and will be very difficult to fulfil without him compromising. Personally, I'd be looking at a Discovery, as lots of heavy towing is the only reason I could justify such a car. But I'd probably end up with a Volvo estate, as the FWD doesn't compromise everything.
Yep, that might well be next for me given my requirements for a tow car that's not a idiot chariot. ::)
Ex plod T6 :D
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I'm not sure about these myself and it's not a saloon, but not a big 4x4 either, nevertheless it's a big heavy car and in petrol guise I'd imagine it's a beast! :-\
BMW X6? ??? :)
Hence my 5GT suggestion, it isn't quite so hideous ;)
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Gah! I can't believe it's taken me 9 pages to remember this!
Volvo S80 V8 AWD. Or T6 AWD 8)
About 100kgs heavier than the omega. Tows up to 2000kgs. Rare as hen's teeth but not expensive if you find one :).
That said, the one below IS rather dear, but I've seen them from about £8k upwards.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201709089119969?atmobcid=soc3 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201709089119969?atmobcid=soc3)
Ooo, on a roll now, Chrysler 300c in srt V8 guise, 1900kgs, again 2000kgs towing capacity.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201808069182710?atmobcid=soc3 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201808069182710?atmobcid=soc3)
Right, I think that's got to be my best and final answer ;D
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Ooo, on a roll now, Chrysler 300c in srt V8 guise, 1900kgs, again 2000kgs towing capacity.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201808069182710?atmobcid=soc3 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201808069182710?atmobcid=soc3)
The closet drug dealer in me rather likes these .. I toyed with the idea of one (LPG converted) to replace the Skoda. Then SWMBO beat sense into me ;D
I still want one, so beatings will continue.
I agree with you about the ugliness Nick, but the X6 to my mind looks like a big beast of a car rather than a 4x4.
From a distance - a BIG distance - I can see what you mean.. up close it becomes hard to ignore the fact that it's 7' tall ;D
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.... up close it becomes hard to ignore the fact that it's 7' tall ;D
and have you seen the size of the tyres rears especially? They look to be a fortune to replace?
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Gah! I can't believe it's taken me 9 pages to remember this!
Volvo S80 V8 AWD. Or T6 AWD 8)
About 100kgs heavier than the omega. Tows up to 2000kgs. Rare as hen's teeth but not expensive if you find one :).
That said, the one below IS rather dear, but I've seen them from about £8k upwards.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201709089119969?atmobcid=soc3 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201709089119969?atmobcid=soc3)
Ooo, on a roll now, Chrysler 300c in srt V8 guise, 1900kgs, again 2000kgs towing capacity.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201808069182710?atmobcid=soc3 (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201808069182710?atmobcid=soc3)
Right, I think that's got to be my best and final answer ;D
A V8 E Class would be a better bet in the reliability stakes... Thought the S80 had been previously mentioned, but I had obviously been distracted by a Lexusphobe ::)
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.... up close it becomes hard to ignore the fact that it's 7' tall ;D
and have you seen the size of the tyres rears especially? They look to be a fortune to replace?
and this is the wider issue, maintenance costs. I can run an old Luxo V6 barge cause I can DIY. The costs of things like brake discs and pads of Phil's Phaeton are eye watering and that's using a local indie garage.
I stuck new discs and pads on the 3.2 for sub £50, could be easily 7 times that for some other cars using dealers/garages.
Tyres as well, TB's Jaaaag are what £250 a corner? You could nearly get an entire set on an Omega for that if going mid-range.
Really is tough choice, something older more miles and more interesting, or something newer, less need for regular work but bit more boring.
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It also comes down to what you enjoy doing, I'm going through a phase of finding work on cars a real chore, this is the first time in my life its been this way, but if you do find it a chore, then there has to be some account made of the time you "pay yourself" for doing that work. Looking at it that way, the costs seem to level out considerably.
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However the 2.7 TDV6 in the Disco 3 is not as agricultural as you might think, and although I havn't driven one, I expect the 3.0 SDV6 in the Disco 4 is even smoother! :y
I got to "borrow" a Disco 3 TDV6 when they first came out, complete with the Ford/Pug 2.7 V6 diesel. A very nice car indeed, but thirsty when thrashed like all company cars should be... ...I think I was getting about 20mpg on average, but that was foot flat to the floor everywhere. A decent diesel lump in its time...
...replaced by JLR (and Pug, and Ford) by the related but more refined, more powerful 3.0l V6 available in 235, 275 and 300bhp forms. The 275bhp variant is what is in the big Pussy.
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and this is the wider issue, maintenance costs. I can run an old Luxo V6 barge cause I can DIY. The costs of things like brake discs and pads of Phil's Phaeton are eye watering and that's using a local indie garage.
Contrary to popular belief, Phaeton parts are also available at many factors, so DIY is possible. And, despite what is said on Jag forums, so are XJ parts.
Tyres as well, TB's Jaaaag are what £250 a corner? You could nearly get an entire set on an Omega for that if going mid-range.
Obviously I go for premium tyres. So £233 for the 275/35/20 rears and £200 for the 245/40/20 fronts. Those sorts of sizes are never cheap, even for budgets.
That said, I've paid £175 a corner on TBE before, and all 4 at the same time :o. Shame they were utter shite (Conti SC5), and the fronts were destroyed in 3k, and the rears gone in 6k.
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....... I've paid £175 a corner on TBE before, and all 4 at the same time :o. Shame they were utter shite (Conti SC5), and the fronts were destroyed in 3k, and the rears gone in 6k.
And I'm pissed off that I've wrecked a £60 tyre on my Mondeo that's only done 5000 miles and still has 6mm of tread! >:( :D
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and this is the wider issue, maintenance costs. I can run an old Luxo V6 barge cause I can DIY. The costs of things like brake discs and pads of Phil's Phaeton are eye watering and that's using a local indie garage.
Contrary to popular belief, Phaeton parts are also available at many factors, so DIY is possible. And, despite what is said on Jag forums, so are XJ parts.
Tyres as well, TB's Jaaaag are what £250 a corner? You could nearly get an entire set on an Omega for that if going mid-range.
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Obviously I go for premium tyres. So £233 for the 275/35/20 rears and £200 for the 245/40/20 fronts. Those sorts of sizes are never cheap, even for budgets.
That said, I've paid £175 a corner on TBE before, and all 4 at the same time :o. Shame they were utter shite (Conti SC5), and the fronts were destroyed in 3k, and the rears gone in 6k.
Jag forums are as dreary as f*uck.
I've been banned twice from Jag Info. They can stick their forum up their arse. 8)
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There is a clever Ruski/East European on Jag Info and the US oriented jaguarforums that almost makes them bearable. I was hoping he'd get me some info on the IAM units, but he seems unwilling...
...then I remembered where one of our nice Admins worked, so badgered him instead :D
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There is a clever Ruski/East European on Jag Info and the US oriented jaguarforums that almost makes them bearable. I was hoping he'd get me some info on the IAM units, but he seems unwilling...
...then I remembered where one of our nice Admins worked, so badgered him instead :D
Jagchat looks slightly more interesting but it contains some of the politically correct dullards from Jag Info so I'm not sure I'd last very long.
All things being equal I prefer to come on here to be insulted. :)
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Have you considered a big pickup with the crew cab option? Walked past local Mitsubishi stealers this morning and they had some beast or other that said it had a 3 1/2 ton towing capacity. Should be ok for a pikey wagon. ???
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Have you considered a big pickup with the crew cab option? Walked past local Mitsubishi stealers this morning and they had some beast or other that said it had a 3 1/2 ton towing capacity. Should be ok for a pikey wagon. ???
That is one hell of a lot of tins of hot dog sausages in brine. :)
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It also comes down to what you enjoy doing, I'm going through a phase of finding work on cars a real chore, this is the first time in my life its been this way, but if you do find it a chore, then there has to be some account made of the time you "pay yourself" for doing that work. Looking at it that way, the costs seem to level out considerably.
Likewise ..... which is why I've just paid someone else to replace a sticking calipers for me. My Omega & previous cars would've had new calipers seals.
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Have you considered a big pickup with the crew cab option? Walked past local Mitsubishi stealers this morning and they had some beast or other that said it had a 3 1/2 ton towing capacity. Should be ok for a pikey wagon. ???
I bet though it would not meet Mr Entwood's objective of being heavier than what he wants to tow though, he wants something heavy and suspect UK pickup's would not fit the bill.
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The problem is easily solved. Buy a standard motor car with a large power output engine, then liberally sprinkle bags of cement/lead ingots throughout aforementioned motor.
Next.
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The problem is easily solved. Buy a standard motor car with a large power output engine, then liberally sprinkle bags of cement/lead ingots throughout aforementioned motor.
Next.
Alternatively, I wonder if Nige has considered an Audi A8? :D ;D
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Have you considered a big pickup with the crew cab option? Walked past local Mitsubishi stealers this morning and they had some beast or other that said it had a 3 1/2 ton towing capacity. Should be ok for a pikey wagon. ???
I bet though it would not meet Mr Entwood's objective of being heavier than what he wants to tow though, he wants something heavy and suspect UK pickup's would not fit the bill.
Sure he,s not looking for a unicorn :)
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Have you considered a big pickup with the crew cab option? Walked past local Mitsubishi stealers this morning and they had some beast or other that said it had a 3 1/2 ton towing capacity. Should be ok for a pikey wagon. ???
I bet though it would not meet Mr Entwood's objective of being heavier than what he wants to tow though, he wants something heavy and suspect UK pickup's would not fit the bill.
Sure he,s not looking for a unicorn :)
A unicorn, although heavy, is relatively light compared to a large motor car, ronny.
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Have you considered a big pickup with the crew cab option? Walked past local Mitsubishi stealers this morning and they had some beast or other that said it had a 3 1/2 ton towing capacity. Should be ok for a pikey wagon. ???
I bet though it would not meet Mr Entwood's objective of being heavier than what he wants to tow though, he wants something heavy and suspect UK pickup's would not fit the bill.
Sure he,s not looking for a unicorn :)
A unicorn, although heavy, is relatively light compared to a large motor car, ronny.
I'd imagine a unicorn would be a tad disgruntled at being hitched up to a pikey wagon like some common or garden shire horse! ;D
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I'd imagine a unicorn would be a tad disgruntled at being hitched up to a pikey wagon like some common or garden shire horse! ;D
Problem solved. Cheap fuel, emissions much less offensive than diesel cars, and can be shovelled out of the way if required. Plenty heavy enough. :y
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Have you considered a big pickup with the crew cab option? Walked past local Mitsubishi stealers this morning and they had some beast or other that said it had a 3 1/2 ton towing capacity. Should be ok for a pikey wagon. ???
I bet though it would not meet Mr Entwood's objective of being heavier than what he wants to tow though, he wants something heavy and suspect UK pickup's would not fit the bill.
My Ranger had a kerb weight of 1,968 kg and towed a lot more weight than Entwood's pikey palace* quite happily up the motorway between Bracknell & Northampton :)
Of course, it's Diesel and there'll be a long string of reasons it doesn't fit the bill ;) but I loved mine - fantastic car and I'd have one again in a heartbeat.
*Probably. We had a car trailer loaded up with the Cobra (incl. engine & gearbox) and the contents of my garage packed in around it! Didn't weigh it, but it can't have been light. :-X
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Seen a 15 plate crew cab Ranger today[2.2 engine]it had the "old" square section metal hoop on the front end of the load area no side steps and was on 16" steel wheels.It just didn't look right at all especially after seeing most of them with the steps/tubular chrome hoop/big alloys etc.
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Seen a 15 plate crew cab Ranger today[2.2 engine]it had the "old" square section metal hoop on the front end of the load area no side steps and was on 16" steel wheels.It just didn't look right at all especially after seeing most of them with the steps/tubular chrome hoop/big alloys etc.
The difference between a working vehicle and a poncy, impress the neighbours at any cost, one ;)
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Seen a 15 plate crew cab Ranger today[2.2 engine]it had the "old" square section metal hoop on the front end of the load area no side steps and was on 16" steel wheels.It just didn't look right at all especially after seeing most of them with the steps/tubular chrome hoop/big alloys etc.
The difference between a working vehicle and a poncy, its a van, honest mr taxman, one ;)
FTFY :y
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Saw a Mercedes ML towing a huge twin wheeler this morning.
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Have you considered a big pickup with the crew cab option? Walked past local Mitsubishi stealers this morning and they had some beast or other that said it had a 3 1/2 ton towing capacity. Should be ok for a pikey wagon. ???
I bet though it would not meet Mr Entwood's objective of being heavier than what he wants to tow though, he wants something heavy and suspect UK pickup's would not fit the bill.
My Ranger had a kerb weight of 1,968 kg and towed a lot more weight than Entwood's pikey palace* quite happily up the motorway between Bracknell & Northampton :)
Of course, it's Diesel and there'll be a long string of reasons it doesn't fit the bill ;) but I loved mine - fantastic car and I'd have one again in a heartbeat.
*Probably. We had a car trailer loaded up with the Cobra (incl. engine & gearbox) and the contents of my garage packed in around it! Didn't weigh it, but it can't have been light. :-X
Car?......are you sure Aaron? ::)
Pickup truck or 'rubble remover' seems more apt. :)
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I have no idea about the 'pikey van' capacity for my Tata, but I think it would make a reasonable tow car.
It has 500 lb ft of torque available at low revs which should help.
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I know less than nothing about towing.
Does law dictate the car has to weigh more than the hot dog wagon it is pulling, for safety reasons?
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Mercedes-Benz ML 350
Make Model Year Kerb weight (Kg) 85% (Kg) Towing Capacity (Kg) Towing Capacity (Lbs) Caravans Within Capacity
Mercedes-Benz ML 350 2004 2186 1858.1 2268 4999 Show Caravans
Mercedes-Benz ML 350 2005 2184 1856.4 3365 7418 Show Caravans
Mercedes-Benz ML 350 2006 2184 1856.4 2268 4999 Show Caravans
Mercedes-Benz ML 350 2007 2184 1856.4 2268 4999 Show Caravans
Mercedes-Benz ML 350 2008 2183 1855.55 3266 7199 Show Caravans
Mercedes-Benz ML 350 2009 2184 1856.4 3266 7199 Show Caravans
Bit jumbled up but you can work it out if you're interested enough.
Here's the link: http://www.uktow.com/towing%20capacity.asp?make=Mercedes-Benz&model1=ML%20350
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Mercedes-Benz ML 350
Make Model Year Kerb weight (Kg) 85% (Kg) Towing Capacity (Kg) Towing Capacity (Lbs) Caravans Within Capacity
Mercedes-Benz ML 350 2004 2186 1858.1 2268 4999 Show Caravans
Mercedes-Benz ML 350 2005 2184 1856.4 3365 7418 Show Caravans
Mercedes-Benz ML 350 2006 2184 1856.4 2268 4999 Show Caravans
Mercedes-Benz ML 350 2007 2184 1856.4 2268 4999 Show Caravans
Mercedes-Benz ML 350 2008 2183 1855.55 3266 7199 Show Caravans
Mercedes-Benz ML 350 2009 2184 1856.4 3266 7199 Show Caravans
Bit jumbled up but you can work it out if you're interested enough.
Here's the link: http://www.uktow.com/towing%20capacity.asp?make=Mercedes-Benz&model1=ML%20350
Thank you, young Sir.
Sadly I'm too thick to understand it all, but it looks as though 85% of the the weight of the car is the most allowable. I think. :)
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The 85% "rule" is something the bearded sandal shod folk over at the caravan club came up with. No basis in legality.
Assuming your licence allows you can tow uptown your car's max allowable weight. So a 2.5t range rover towing a 3.5t pikey house would be perfectly legal.
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The 85% "rule" is something the bearded sandal shod folk over at the caravan club came up with. No basis in legality.
Assuming your licence allows you can tow uptown your car's max allowable weight. So a 2.5t range rover towing a 3.5t pikey house would be perfectly legal.
As long as the Maximum Authorised Mass/ Gross Train Weight aren't exceeded ;)
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The 85% "rule" is something the bearded sandal shod folk over at the caravan club came up with. No basis in legality.
Assuming your licence allows you can tow uptown your car's max allowable weight. So a 2.5t range rover towing a 3.5t pikey house would be perfectly legal.
Legality, no. But it's a really good rule of thumb to follow, as anyone who has towed a trailer heavier than the vehicle will tell you.
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Back in my army day (not in the 1st world war) I used to tow a tech trailer weighing 2.5 tons with a SWB landrover. When I questioned this I was told "If the tail starts wagging the dog, accelerate out of it". ;D
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Back in my army day (not in the 1st world war) I used to tow a tech trailer weighing 2.5 tons with a SWB landrover. When I questioned this I was told "If the tail starts wagging the dog, accelerate out of it". ;D
I imagine there is plenty of this on You tube.
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The 85% "rule" is something the bearded sandal shod folk over at the caravan club came up with. No basis in legality.
Assuming your licence allows you can tow uptown your car's max allowable weight. So a 2.5t range rover towing a 3.5t pikey house would be perfectly legal.
Legality, no. But it's a really good rule of thumb to follow, as anyone who has towed a trailer heavier than the vehicle will tell you.
True, but since we've been looking at a burger van I've spent some time reading various caravan forums and it winds me up when you get posters, presumably with adenoids, waxing lyrical about the outrageous risks people are taking pulling a van that's not "well matched" because it's 87.897% of the cars weight.
And to even think of towing such a combination will lead to death, he'll and damnation ::)
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The 85% "rule" is something the bearded sandal shod folk over at the caravan club came up with. No basis in legality.
Assuming your licence allows you can tow uptown your car's max allowable weight. So a 2.5t range rover towing a 3.5t pikey house would be perfectly legal.
Legality, no. But it's a really good rule of thumb to follow, as anyone who has towed a trailer heavier than the vehicle will tell you.
True, but since we've been looking at a burger van I've spent some time reading various caravan forums and it winds me up when you get posters, presumably with adenoids, waxing lyrical about the outrageous risks people are taking pulling a van that's not "well matched" because it's 87.897% of the cars weight.
And to even think of towing such a combination will lead to death, he'll and damnation ::)
Don't do it, Jimmy. :)
Caravan are for old people waiting to die. :)
If you were STMO's age I could understand.
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The 85% "rule" is something the bearded sandal shod folk over at the caravan club came up with. No basis in legality.
Assuming your licence allows you can tow uptown your car's max allowable weight. So a 2.5t range rover towing a 3.5t pikey house would be perfectly legal.
Legality, no. But it's a really good rule of thumb to follow, as anyone who has towed a trailer heavier than the vehicle will tell you.
True, but since we've been looking at a burger van I've spent some time reading various caravan forums and it winds me up when you get posters, presumably with adenoids, waxing lyrical about the outrageous risks people are taking pulling a van that's not "well matched" because it's 87.897% of the cars weight.
And to even think of towing such a combination will lead to death, he'll and damnation ::)
Don't do it, Jimmy. :)
Caravan are for old people waiting to die. :)
If you were STMO's age I could understand.
I agree.
Look at hotels, hire villa's, cottages, look at air b&b's :y
Myself and MrsT once paid £400 each, for a week in Portugal. That included:
Our own private villa.
Out door pool
Indoor pool
3 bedrooms
2 games rooms
Bbq area
Also included, flights and car hire.
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The 85% "rule" is something the bearded sandal shod folk over at the caravan club came up with. No basis in legality.
Assuming your licence allows you can tow uptown your car's max allowable weight. So a 2.5t range rover towing a 3.5t pikey house would be perfectly legal.
Legality, no. But it's a really good rule of thumb to follow, as anyone who has towed a trailer heavier than the vehicle will tell you.
True, but since we've been looking at a burger van I've spent some time reading various caravan forums and it winds me up when you get posters, presumably with adenoids, waxing lyrical about the outrageous risks people are taking pulling a van that's not "well matched" because it's 87.897% of the cars weight.
And to even think of towing such a combination will lead to death, he'll and damnation ::)
I hope you get stuck behind tractors full of hay doing 15mph......for thirty miles or so. You won't be able to overtake them and veins will stick out of your head with frustration and temper. That'll teach yer, yer bastid. ;D
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The 85% "rule" is something the bearded sandal shod folk over at the caravan club came up with. No basis in legality.
Assuming your licence allows you can tow uptown your car's max allowable weight. So a 2.5t range rover towing a 3.5t pikey house would be perfectly legal.
Legality, no. But it's a really good rule of thumb to follow, as anyone who has towed a trailer heavier than the vehicle will tell you.
True, but since we've been looking at a burger van I've spent some time reading various caravan forums and it winds me up when you get posters, presumably with adenoids, waxing lyrical about the outrageous risks people are taking pulling a van that's not "well matched" because it's 87.897% of the cars weight.
And to even think of towing such a combination will lead to death, he'll and damnation ::)
Don't do it, Jimmy. :)
Caravan are for old people waiting to die. :)
If you were STMO's age I could understand.
I agree.
Look at hotels, hire villa's, cottages, look at air b&b's :y
Myself and MrsT once paid £400 each, for a week in Portugal. That included:
Our own private villa.
Out door pool
Indoor pool
3 bedrooms
2 games rooms
Bbq area
Also included, flights and car hire.
I didn't know Haven had a site on the Algarve :o
Another reason not to go there :D
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Sadly a necessary evil due to impending homeless and the impossibility of renting with 2muts.
Medium term I've agreed to move to a 10 over 9 working pattern so I'm looking at at least 25 3 day weekends per year :y
The plan is to spend these travelling around the UK. I fear that many B&b or villa nights may be unaffordable. :-\
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I agree.
Look at hotels, hire villa's, cottages, look at air b&b's :y
Myself and MrsT once paid £400 each, for a week in Portugal. That included:
Our own private villa.
Out door pool
Indoor pool
3 bedrooms
2 games rooms
Bbq area
Also included, flights and car hire.
No doubt this was where Little Miss T1 was conceived?! ;) :)
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I agree.
Look at hotels, hire villa's, cottages, look at air b&b's :y
Myself and MrsT once paid £400 each, for a week in Portugal. That included:
Our own private villa.
Out door pool
Indoor pool
3 bedrooms
2 games rooms
Bbq area
Also included, flights and car hire.
No doubt this was where Little Miss T1 was conceived?! ;) :)
I though Willerby Deluxe Tunnie was a bit bizarre... Suddenly it all makes sense ::)
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Sadly a necessary evil due to impending homeless and the impossibility of renting with 2muts.
Medium term I've agreed to move to a 10 over 9 working pattern so I'm looking at at least 25 3 day weekends per year :y
The plan is to spend these travelling around the UK. I fear that many B&b or villa nights may be unaffordable. :-\
How much were you thinking of spending? ........perhaps there are other options.
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On the initial van, £3-4k maybe. Just enough to get something serviceable for the 6-8 weeks we'll be in it. I figure buying in October and re-selling in late march, it will end up costing us pretty much nowt.
Longer term, no idea. Must admit, I rather like the look of some of the American style RVs, however, im not sure how practical they would be on Devon/Cornwall's lanes.
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On the initial van, £3-4k maybe. Just enough to get something serviceable for the 6-8 weeks we'll be in it. I figure buying in October and re-selling in late march, it will end up costing us pretty much nowt.
Longer term, no idea. Must admit, I rather like the look of some of the American style RVs, however, im not sure how practical they would be on Devon/Cornwall's lanes.
The blockage should be long enough to make the local news. :)
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W212 e class estate has self levelling as standard and rated to tow 2,100 kgs
DG, I know you love your Mercs, and you know I hate gaytube with a passion, but this popped up after I uploaded a vid, and I thought of you :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAgY6A3RPcU
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W212 e class estate has self levelling as standard and rated to tow 2,100 kgs
DG, I know you love your Mercs, and you know I hate gaytube with a passion, but this popped up after I uploaded a vid, and I thought of you :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAgY6A3RPcU
In a nutshell... ;D
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W212 e class estate has self levelling as standard and rated to tow 2,100 kgs
DG, I know you love your Mercs, and you know I hate gaytube with a passion, but this popped up after I uploaded a vid, and I thought of you :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAgY6A3RPcU
Very informative, that :y The gay people didn't seem to like it, though. :-\
Best comment in the section, in reply to someone complaining about the derogatory gay comparisons: "I don't get it. How come someone can take a cock up their arse, but can't take a joke? " ;D
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W212 e class estate has self levelling as standard and rated to tow 2,100 kgs
DG, I know you love your Mercs, and you know I hate gaytube with a passion, but this popped up after I uploaded a vid, and I thought of you :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAgY6A3RPcU
Very informative, that :y The gay people didn't seem to like it, though. :-\
Best comment in the section, in reply to someone complaining about the derogatory gay comparisons: "I don't get it. How come someone can take a cock up their arse, but can't take a joke? " ;D
In 2018 this is not an appropriate comment to make about people with an alternative sexual preference.
Perhaps you would like to take this opportunity to retract your homophobic comment and apologise to the gay community. :)
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It isn't even acceptable to describe it as an "alternative preference" in 2018. By 2038 it will be compulsory. :D
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W212 e class estate has self levelling as standard and rated to tow 2,100 kgs
DG, I know you love your Mercs, and you know I hate gaytube with a passion, but this popped up after I uploaded a vid, and I thought of you :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAgY6A3RPcU
Very informative, that :y The gay people didn't seem to like it, though. :-\
Best comment in the section, in reply to someone complaining about the derogatory gay comparisons: "I don't get it. How come someone can take a cock up their arse, but can't take a joke? " ;D
In 2018 this is not an appropriate comment to make about people with an alternative sexual preference.
Perhaps you would like to take this opportunity to retract your homophobic comment and apologise to the gay community. :)
Oh....yes....right. Sorry, gays.
(That someone in Australia dissed you, even though it was really funny)
Ok?
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How did we get from Audi A8 to here ? ??? ;D
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W212 e class estate has self levelling as standard and rated to tow 2,100 kgs
DG, I know you love your Mercs, and you know I hate gaytube with a passion, but this popped up after I uploaded a vid, and I thought of you :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAgY6A3RPcU
Very informative, that :y The gay people didn't seem to like it, though. :-\
Best comment in the section, in reply to someone complaining about the derogatory gay comparisons: "I don't get it. How come someone can take a cock up their arse, but can't take a joke? " ;D
In 2018 this is not an appropriate comment to make about people with an alternative sexual preference.
Perhaps you would like to take this opportunity to retract your homophobic comment and apologise to the gay community. :)
#Bants
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How did we get from Audi A8 to here ? ??? ;D
That Al fella....going on about e classes or something.
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W212 e class estate has self levelling as standard and rated to tow 2,100 kgs
DG, I know you love your Mercs, and you know I hate gaytube with a passion, but this popped up after I uploaded a vid, and I thought of you :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAgY6A3RPcU
Can't argue with any of that... ;)
The A Class is transport, pure and simple, bought as a £400 runaround. And although it's a long wheelbase one, I prefer my Mercs older and bigger...
Like this... (https://youtu.be/usnj4NsN33g)
Or a more balanced presentation... (https://youtu.be/erdQdKEXodk) :y
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W212 e class estate has self levelling as standard and rated to tow 2,100 kgs
DG, I know you love your Mercs, and you know I hate gaytube with a passion, but this popped up after I uploaded a vid, and I thought of you :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAgY6A3RPcU
Very informative, that :y The gay people didn't seem to like it, though. :-\
Best comment in the section, in reply to someone complaining about the derogatory gay comparisons: "I don't get it. How come someone can take a cock up their arse, but can't take a joke? " ;D
In 2018 this is not an appropriate comment to make about people with an alternative sexual preference.
Perhaps you would like to take this opportunity to retract your homophobic comment and apologise to the gay community. :)
Oh....yes....right. Sorry, gays.
(That someone in Australia dissed you, even though it was really funny)
Ok?
That's better. Some benders can be very sensitive to 'homophobic comments'. Still all sorted now. :y
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On the initial van, £3-4k maybe. Just enough to get something serviceable for the 6-8 weeks we'll be in it. I figure buying in October and re-selling in late march, it will end up costing us pretty much nowt.
Longer term, no idea. Must admit, I rather like the look of some of the American style RVs, however, im not sure how practical they would be on Devon/Cornwall's lanes.
Found this for you, Jimmy:
(https://image.ibb.co/gMAZcp/Screen_Shot_2018_08_28_at_10_10_24.png) (https://ibb.co/miWJ3U)
If you passed your test before 1997 then you only need a car license (which astounds and pleases me, having passed in 95 ;D)
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Sadly, being the youthful buck that I am ::) I'd need another test (passed in 2001) but I was planning on doing either C&E or C1&E at some point. I want to be able to tow a decent weight and CBA to do B&E only to have it superseded later.
I watched this listing a while ago. 8)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STUNNING-1995-COACHMEN-SANTARA-TAG-AXLE-AMERICAN-RV-MOTORHOME-CAMPER-HUGE-SLIDE-/292656062126?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l10137 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STUNNING-1995-COACHMEN-SANTARA-TAG-AXLE-AMERICAN-RV-MOTORHOME-CAMPER-HUGE-SLIDE-/292656062126?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l10137)
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Sadly, being the youthful buck that I am ::) I'd need another test (passed in 2001) but I was planning on doing either C&E or C1&E at some point. I want to be able to tow a decent weight and CBA to do B&E only to have it superseded later.
I watched this listing a while ago. 8)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STUNNING-1995-COACHMEN-SANTARA-TAG-AXLE-AMERICAN-RV-MOTORHOME-CAMPER-HUGE-SLIDE-/292656062126?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l10137 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STUNNING-1995-COACHMEN-SANTARA-TAG-AXLE-AMERICAN-RV-MOTORHOME-CAMPER-HUGE-SLIDE-/292656062126?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l10137)
Let me know how that goes, I also passed in 2001 and want to upgrade my entitlement at some point.
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Damn kids. GET OFF MY LAWN! ;) ;D
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Damn kids. GET OFF MY LAWN! ;) ;D
Whatever. Grandad. :P
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On the initial van, £3-4k maybe. Just enough to get something serviceable for the 6-8 weeks we'll be in it. I figure buying in October and re-selling in late march, it will end up costing us pretty much nowt.
Longer term, no idea. Must admit, I rather like the look of some of the American style RVs, however, im not sure how practical they would be on Devon/Cornwall's lanes.
Found this for you, Jimmy:
(https://image.ibb.co/gMAZcp/Screen_Shot_2018_08_28_at_10_10_24.png) (https://ibb.co/miWJ3U)
If you passed your test before 1997 then you only need a car license (which astounds and pleases me, having passed in 95 ;D)
It's aptly named, I see. :-X
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Let me know how that goes, I also passed in 2001 and want to upgrade my entitlement at some point.
I have the application form and medical done so far. Not posted my licence off as I'm needing to hire vans pretty regularly atm. When I spoke to a training provider in Northants, they reckoned that C1 and C were pretty similar in terms of difficulty, but adding the E made the C significantly more challenging than the C1 as its basically the difference between a Transit & Trailer vs a full on artic.
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Let me know how that goes, I also passed in 2001 and want to upgrade my entitlement at some point.
I have the application form and medical done so far. Not posted my licence off as I'm needing to hire vans pretty regularly atm. When I spoke to a training provider in Northants, they reckoned that C1 and C were pretty similar in terms of difficulty, but adding the E made the C significantly more challenging than the C1 as its basically the difference between a Transit & Trailer vs a full on artic.
That's down to the rest loop holes... For the C1, it only needs a GVW of over 3.5t, where as the C is at least 12-18t.
Given that the five part test is the same in every way, pay the extra £200 and go straight for the C :y