Topic: I Need ANOTHER new TV ! (Read 3372 times)

Markie · « **on:** 14 April 2007, 21:17:28 »

About 4 months ago i asked for some advice on here about a new tv for the bedroom.

Took the top advice and have since had a stunning 37" lcd in there.

Now we have decided the 36" ( or so) crt in the living room is too too small.

So techies of the forum ( for i know nothng on the subject)...

Any recommendations for a super huge lcd for my living room?

40" plus and willing to spend £1000 - 1500 or so.....

Any thoughts on either of these

http://www.digitaldirect.co.uk/products_moreinfo3/index.asp?product_id=11771&ff=&ffi=#Scene_1

http://www.digitaldirect.co.uk/products_moreinfo3/index.asp?product_id=12670

TheBoy · « **Reply #1 on:** 14 April 2007, 21:22:27 »

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About 4 months ago i asked for some advice on here about a new tv for the bedroom.

Took the top advice and have since had a stunning 37" lcd in there.

Now we have decided the 36" ( or so) crt in the living room is too too small.

So techies of the forum ( for i know nothng on the subject)...

Any recommendations for a super huge lcd for my living room?

40" plus and willing to spend £1000 - 1500 or so.....

Any thoughts on either of these

http://www.digitaldirect.co.uk/products_moreinfo3/index.asp?product_id=11771&ff=&ffi=#Scene_1

http://www.digitaldirect.co.uk/products_moreinfo3/index.asp?product_id=12670

As long as its not Sony junk

Markie · « **Reply #2 on:** 14 April 2007, 21:24:28 »

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About 4 months ago i asked for some advice on here about a new tv for the bedroom.

Took the top advice and have since had a stunning 37" lcd in there.

Now we have decided the 36" ( or so) crt in the living room is too too small.

So techies of the forum ( for i know nothng on the subject)...

Any recommendations for a super huge lcd for my living room?

40" plus and willing to spend £1000 - 1500 or so.....

Any thoughts on either of these

http://www.digitaldirect.co.uk/products_moreinfo3/index.asp?product_id=11771&ff=&ffi=#Scene_1

http://www.digitaldirect.co.uk/products_moreinfo3/index.asp?product_id=12670

As long as its not Sony junk

i KNEW you were gonna say that

Im flexi on any manufacturer to be honest but do have a soft spot for LG and Samsung

Admin · « **Reply #3 on:** 14 April 2007, 21:25:25 »

This will be one to interest both Martin and Marks DTM I suspect...

tunnie · « **Reply #4 on:** 14 April 2007, 21:26:26 »

Markie, my advice is don't go bigger unless you have SkyHD....

My friend has a 42" Pioneer LCD, sexy TV!

However normal TV looks shocking bad on it! Very pixelated, very poor resolution for normal TV viewing..... (he is on normal Sky)

Baron Von Spongebob · « **Reply #5 on:** 14 April 2007, 21:26:48 »

http://www.richersounds.com/showproduct.php?cda=showproduct&pid=SHAR-LC42XD1E

http://www.richersounds.com/showproduct.php?cda=showproduct&pid=SHAR-LC46X41E

TheBoy · « **Reply #6 on:** 14 April 2007, 21:28:32 »

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Markie, my advice is don't go bigger unless you have SkyHD....

My friend has a 42" Pioneer LCD, sexy TV!

However normal TV looks shocking bad on it! Very pixelated, very poor resolution for normal TV viewing..... (he is on normal Sky)

Its not the size, its how good it is at upscaling...

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #7 on:** 14 April 2007, 21:28:57 »

I have seen Sony KDL46W2000 for around 1900 - and if I get the money it would be my next TV

tunnie · « **Reply #8 on:** 14 April 2007, 21:29:38 »

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Markie, my advice is don't go bigger unless you have SkyHD....

My friend has a 42" Pioneer LCD, sexy TV!

However normal TV looks shocking bad on it! Very pixelated, very poor resolution for normal TV viewing..... (he is on normal Sky)
Its not the size, its how good it is at upscaling...

I stand corrected

Well avoid Pioneer then. Because I was apauled at the TV qauility....

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #9 on:** 14 April 2007, 21:32:02 »

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Markie, my advice is don't go bigger unless you have SkyHD....

My friend has a 42" Pioneer LCD, sexy TV!

However normal TV looks shocking bad on it! Very pixelated, very poor resolution for normal TV viewing..... (he is on normal Sky)

Pioneer do Plasmas - one of the few decent ones as well - I don't normally like them and the only reason I'm put off the Pioneer plasma is power consumption and screen burn risk!

TheBoy · « **Reply #10 on:** 14 April 2007, 21:32:18 »

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I have seen Sony KDL46W2000 for around 1900 - and if I get the money it would be my next TV

I can get Sony stuff at a competitive price through a contact. Trouble is, I refuse to let those lying, useless, swindling scumbags at Sony UK have any more of my money.

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #11 on:** 14 April 2007, 21:32:39 »

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Markie, my advice is don't go bigger unless you have SkyHD....

My friend has a 42" Pioneer LCD, sexy TV!

However normal TV looks shocking bad on it! Very pixelated, very poor resolution for normal TV viewing..... (he is on normal Sky)
Its not the size, its how good it is at upscaling...

I stand corrected Well avoid Pioneer then. Because I was apauled at the TV qauility....

Not it isn't it is how it was set up

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #12 on:** 14 April 2007, 21:35:51 »

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I have seen Sony KDL46W2000 for around 1900 - and if I get the money it would be my next TV
I can get Sony stuff at a competitive price through a contact. Trouble is, I refuse to let those lying, useless, swindling scumbags at Sony UK have any more of my money.

How much for that TV then?

tunnie · « **Reply #13 on:** 14 April 2007, 21:36:14 »

He had a Samsung there previously which I saw, which was very nice... he dropped that.

So replaced it with a Pioneer, which i belive was set up right. It was fine for most things, but anything with a white background showed how poor its upscaling was.

You still get the best image on CRT's .....

Markie · « **Reply #14 on:** 14 April 2007, 21:36:50 »

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I have seen Sony KDL46W2000 for around 1900 - and if I get the money it would be my next TV

here its here a bit cheaper - whats so special about that one then ?

http://www.electrosaver.co.uk/product_details.asp?id=LCD%20TV&Product=Television&productid=KDL46W2000U

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #15 on:** 14 April 2007, 21:38:05 »

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He had a Samsung there previously which I saw, which was very nice... he dropped that.

So replaced it with a Pioneer, which i belive was set up right. It was fine for most things, but anything with a white background showed how poor its upscaling was.

You still get the best image on CRT's .....

50Hz CRTs, mine is still good even though it is 7 1/2 years old - I have used DVE to prove it.

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #16 on:** 14 April 2007, 21:39:20 »

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I have seen Sony KDL46W2000 for around 1900 - and if I get the money it would be my next TV

here its here a bit cheaper - whats so special about that one then ?

http://www.electrosaver.co.uk/product_details.asp?id=LCD%20TV&Product=Television&productid=KDL46W2000U

1) 46"
2) 1080P
3) True 1080 line resolution so will work well with HD disc players

TheBoy · « **Reply #17 on:** 14 April 2007, 21:40:22 »

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He had a Samsung there previously which I saw, which was very nice... he dropped that.

So replaced it with a Pioneer, which i belive was set up right. It was fine for most things, but anything with a white background showed how poor its upscaling was.

You still get the best image on CRT's .....

50Hz CRTs, mine is still good even though it is 7 1/2 years old - I have used DVE to prove it.

Yours is not good. Unless it is never on.

100Hz is very good, just not Sony's implementation. Wega 50Hz has too much flicker to be any good.

Markie · « **Reply #18 on:** 14 April 2007, 21:42:10 »

oh dear i've started this sony war again

any one for an oil thread

Markie · « **Reply #19 on:** 14 April 2007, 21:43:34 »

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http://www.richersounds.com/showproduct.php?cda=showproduct&pid=SHAR-LC42XD1E

http://www.richersounds.com/showproduct.php?cda=showproduct&pid=SHAR-LC46X41E

there both nice - never had any experience of sharp though - has any one else?

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #20 on:** 14 April 2007, 21:43:41 »

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He had a Samsung there previously which I saw, which was very nice... he dropped that.

So replaced it with a Pioneer, which i belive was set up right. It was fine for most things, but anything with a white background showed how poor its upscaling was.

You still get the best image on CRT's .....

50Hz CRTs, mine is still good even though it is 7 1/2 years old - I have used DVE to prove it.
Yours is not good. Unless it is never on.

100Hz is very good, just not Sony's implementation. Wega 50Hz has too much flicker to be any good.

ALl 100Hz TVs to me look a bit plasticky - anyway as I told you before crank down the brightness and they last a LOT longer.

Marks DTM Calib · « **Reply #21 on:** 14 April 2007, 21:46:41 »

For off air viewing Philips have the edge at the moment....their picture engine is best in the buisness and this realy shows on digital tv i.e. the stuff you view most of the time.....a nice 42 inch would be highlty recommended....they use LG displays to....

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #22 on:** 14 April 2007, 21:49:08 »

I have seen some they are quite good!

TheBoy · « **Reply #23 on:** 14 April 2007, 21:49:13 »

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He had a Samsung there previously which I saw, which was very nice... he dropped that.

So replaced it with a Pioneer, which i belive was set up right. It was fine for most things, but anything with a white background showed how poor its upscaling was.

You still get the best image on CRT's .....

50Hz CRTs, mine is still good even though it is 7 1/2 years old - I have used DVE to prove it.
Yours is not good. Unless it is never on.

100Hz is very good, just not Sony's implementation. Wega 50Hz has too much flicker to be any good.

ALl 100Hz TVs to me look a bit plasticky - anyway as I told you before crank down the brightness and they last a LOT longer.

Turn down the brightness/contrast, the tube should last about 5 yrs. With the Sony default setting, about 2 - 3 yrs is your lot...

tunnie · « **Reply #24 on:** 14 April 2007, 21:51:26 »

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He had a Samsung there previously which I saw, which was very nice... he dropped that.

So replaced it with a Pioneer, which i belive was set up right. It was fine for most things, but anything with a white background showed how poor its upscaling was.

You still get the best image on CRT's .....

50Hz CRTs, mine is still good even though it is 7 1/2 years old - I have used DVE to prove it.
Yours is not good. Unless it is never on.

100Hz is very good, just not Sony's implementation. Wega 50Hz has too much flicker to be any good.

ALl 100Hz TVs to me look a bit plasticky - anyway as I told you before crank down the brightness and they last a LOT longer.
Turn down the brightness/contrast, the tube should last about 5 yrs. With the Sony default setting, about 2 - 3 yrs is your lot...

Sony TV here is about 8 years old, fantasic picture... still going strong. Been on standby for 8 years too!

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #25 on:** 14 April 2007, 21:51:40 »

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He had a Samsung there previously which I saw, which was very nice... he dropped that.

So replaced it with a Pioneer, which i belive was set up right. It was fine for most things, but anything with a white background showed how poor its upscaling was.

You still get the best image on CRT's .....

50Hz CRTs, mine is still good even though it is 7 1/2 years old - I have used DVE to prove it.
Yours is not good. Unless it is never on.

100Hz is very good, just not Sony's implementation. Wega 50Hz has too much flicker to be any good.

ALl 100Hz TVs to me look a bit plasticky - anyway as I told you before crank down the brightness and they last a LOT longer.
Turn down the brightness/contrast, the tube should last about 5 yrs. With the Sony default setting, about 2 - 3 yrs is your lot...

Perhaps because 50Hz TVs are driven less hard they last longer!!!!

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #26 on:** 14 April 2007, 21:52:33 »

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He had a Samsung there previously which I saw, which was very nice... he dropped that.

So replaced it with a Pioneer, which i belive was set up right. It was fine for most things, but anything with a white background showed how poor its upscaling was.

You still get the best image on CRT's .....

50Hz CRTs, mine is still good even though it is 7 1/2 years old - I have used DVE to prove it.
Yours is not good. Unless it is never on.

100Hz is very good, just not Sony's implementation. Wega 50Hz has too much flicker to be any good.

ALl 100Hz TVs to me look a bit plasticky - anyway as I told you before crank down the brightness and they last a LOT longer.
Turn down the brightness/contrast, the tube should last about 5 yrs. With the Sony default setting, about 2 - 3 yrs is your lot...

Sony TV here is about 8 years old, fantasic picture... still going strong. Been on standby for 8 years too!

WHich model?

tunnie · « **Reply #27 on:** 14 April 2007, 21:55:15 »

not sure would have to check, its not even widescreen its that old ( i prefer it to widescreens )

TheBoy · « **Reply #28 on:** 14 April 2007, 21:56:14 »

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not sure would have to check, its not even widescreen its that old ( i prefer it to widescreens )

Sony non widescreens were built in an era when Sony still believed in quality.

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #29 on:** 14 April 2007, 21:57:14 »

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not sure would have to check, its not even widescreen its that old ( i prefer it to widescreens )
Sony non widescreens were built in an era when Sony still believed in quality.

So were the first few Wegas

TheBoy · « **Reply #30 on:** 14 April 2007, 21:58:07 »

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He had a Samsung there previously which I saw, which was very nice... he dropped that.

So replaced it with a Pioneer, which i belive was set up right. It was fine for most things, but anything with a white background showed how poor its upscaling was.

You still get the best image on CRT's .....

50Hz CRTs, mine is still good even though it is 7 1/2 years old - I have used DVE to prove it.
Yours is not good. Unless it is never on.

100Hz is very good, just not Sony's implementation. Wega 50Hz has too much flicker to be any good.

ALl 100Hz TVs to me look a bit plasticky - anyway as I told you before crank down the brightness and they last a LOT longer.
Turn down the brightness/contrast, the tube should last about 5 yrs. With the Sony default setting, about 2 - 3 yrs is your lot...

Perhaps because 50Hz TVs are driven less hard they last longer!!!!

Actually, due to different characteristics of phosphur used on 50Hz screens, it is more prone to phosphur damage. As to softening of the tube, they degrade equally...

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #31 on:** 14 April 2007, 22:05:52 »

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He had a Samsung there previously which I saw, which was very nice... he dropped that.

So replaced it with a Pioneer, which i belive was set up right. It was fine for most things, but anything with a white background showed how poor its upscaling was.

You still get the best image on CRT's .....

50Hz CRTs, mine is still good even though it is 7 1/2 years old - I have used DVE to prove it.
Yours is not good. Unless it is never on.

100Hz is very good, just not Sony's implementation. Wega 50Hz has too much flicker to be any good.

ALl 100Hz TVs to me look a bit plasticky - anyway as I told you before crank down the brightness and they last a LOT longer.
Turn down the brightness/contrast, the tube should last about 5 yrs. With the Sony default setting, about 2 - 3 yrs is your lot...

Perhaps because 50Hz TVs are driven less hard they last longer!!!!
Actually, due to different characteristics of phosphur used on 50Hz screens, it is more prone to phosphur damage. As to softening of the tube, they degrade equally...

I wonder then why mine is still so good? You can still tell if it is a 540 or 720 pixel wide channel.

TheBoy · « **Reply #32 on:** 14 April 2007, 22:09:01 »

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I wonder then why mine is still so good?

Either its not, or you use less than 2hrs per day.

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #33 on:** 14 April 2007, 22:10:53 »

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I wonder then why mine is still so good?
Either its not, or you use less than 2hrs per day.

It is used a lot - I know you don't believe it but my old heavily used TV still has a good picture - and I am critical of TV pictures.

TheBoy · « **Reply #34 on:** 14 April 2007, 22:13:25 »

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I wonder then why mine is still so good?
Either its not, or you use less than 2hrs per day.

It is used a lot - I know you don't believe it but my old heavily used TV still has a good picture - and I am critical of TV pictures.

You're right, I don't

I'm a qualified TV repair tech.

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #35 on:** 14 April 2007, 22:37:49 »

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I wonder then why mine is still so good?
Either its not, or you use less than 2hrs per day.

It is used a lot - I know you don't believe it but my old heavily used TV still has a good picture - and I am critical of TV pictures.
You're right, I don't

I'm a qualified TV repair tech.

And I am an AV nut who spent ages setting his TV up and can tell the difference between different video formats, and can spot a cheapo Scart lead by A_B testing it. (crosstalk and noise)

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #36 on:** 14 April 2007, 22:50:58 »

To add my 2 p worth

My Sony 32" 100hz Wega.....was looking a tad tired on the picture quality.....but then it is years old....probably getting on for 10 years old now...

But after Martins advice i visited an avforum and followed some tweaks i found on the forum.

Result was 3 tweaks later.....the picture quality has definately improved....in fact i reckon its as good now as it was when it was new

So im not rushing out to but a new TV now

TheBoy · « **Reply #37 on:** 15 April 2007, 10:03:07 »

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To add my 2 p worth

My Sony 32" 100hz Wega.....was looking a tad tired on the picture quality.....but then it is years old....probably getting on for 10 years old now...

But after Martins advice i visited an avforum and followed some tweaks i found on the forum.

Result was 3 tweaks later.....the picture quality has definately improved....in fact i reckon its as good now as it was when it was new

So im not rushing out to but a new TV now

10yr old is just inside the 'decent' era

Shortly after, they began to cut corners (understatement of the year). The PSUs were not powerful enough, so no matter what adjustments you make, you cannot get geometry right. It simply varies depending on what is being shown on the screen. The focus issues on my 4 FQ sets are not the ones that caqn be dialled out, it seems to be an alignment issue. The scrolling issues are down to some feedback issue, possibly from the 100Hz clock, but mixed in with interference from at least one of the tuners (unplug the aerial, and it improves). The left hand speaker hiss, again on all 4, I suspect down to local interference.

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