Topic: Rocker Cover Gasket Sealant (Read 2493 times)

ClarCE · « **on:** 09 March 2007, 10:45:55 »

Hi,

Can someone please confirm how much of this stuff, and where exactly I should be putting it on - I've obviously cocked it up once now and I don't want to do it again - I've got some proper vx gaskets arriving this afternoon so with a little advice on sealant from you guys I should be sorted.

I know the guide says as a rule at the back where the half moons are, and after the front two cam locks, but how much? Would it be a bad idea to just put it all the way around?

Many thanks in advance guys...

Chris.

Auto Addict · « **Reply #1 on:** 09 March 2007, 10:49:33 »

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ClarCE · « **Reply #2 on:** 09 March 2007, 10:54:23 »

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Have you read this Maintenance Guide?

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152564281

This is what I was referring to AA - I did follow it yes, but I just don't think I put enough sealant on and I desperately want to get it right this time, hence the

for help!

Auto Addict · « **Reply #3 on:** 09 March 2007, 12:16:52 »

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Have you read this Maintenance Guide?

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152564281

This is what I was referring to AA - I did follow it yes, but I just don't think I put enough sealant on and I desperately want to get it right this time, hence the for help!

Sorry I can't help, you will have to wait until one of the V6 experts come along.

Best of luck.

Bo Bo · « **Reply #4 on:** 09 March 2007, 12:47:12 »

I watched Mark do this on mine the other week & he didn't use that much, just a good blob on the "sharp" corners.

Essex_Andy · « **Reply #5 on:** 09 March 2007, 15:52:37 »

Has anyone put a smear of sealant all around the camcover edges?

Markjay · « **Reply #6 on:** 09 March 2007, 17:45:18 »

I can't help with the info as I haven't done mine yet, but for the benefit of TD and AA here's a picture of it:

Essex_Andy · « **Reply #7 on:** 09 March 2007, 18:07:17 »

isnt it RTV sealant?

Dave-C · « **Reply #8 on:** 09 March 2007, 18:22:55 »

According to TIS, it goes in the semi circular bit at the rear of the cam cover, to complete a good seal gasket to cover and at the front it goes in the angles where the gasket rises over the cam front mounting..

Hope this helps, if anyone knows different I'm sure they'll correct me

Admin · « **Reply #9 on:** 09 March 2007, 18:31:50 »

You put it over the half moons and put a blob on each "sharp turn" in the gasket.

Too much is bad, I made that mistake.

Just make sure you remove all the old sealant from both the gaskets and make sure the mating surfaces are completely clean.

The super important bit is making sure you don't overtighten the gaskets. As they are rubber they don't need much torque (8nm as everyone knows).

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #10 on:** 09 March 2007, 22:07:13 »

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I can't help with the info as I haven't done mine yet, but for the benefit of TD and AA here's a picture of it:

Thanks MJ

As LB says dont use too much.....you dont need on the straights.....just the sharp corners....i put too much on mine according to Mark....but i think i have got away with it....

One other point.....the gasket may have moved a tad when you fitted the cover.....not sure if this is a correct tip....but i let the sealant go off a bit (15mins) before fitting the cover....i tried to do it straight away after applying the black goo.....but one of the 1/2 moons kept falling out of place.....giving it 15mins made the goo go off a bit and held the gasket in place

Also LB i think suggests reusing the gasket.....which will be fine i think as its a new one.....but before you do double check it hasnt been pinched or got a split in it

ians · « **Reply #11 on:** 09 March 2007, 22:44:28 »

Chris, What happened? Why do you think you cocked it up?

I'm really sorry to hear this after you spent all night on it.

Cheers
Ian

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #12 on:** 09 March 2007, 23:12:10 »

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Chris, What happened? Why do you think you cocked it up?

I'm really sorry to hear this after you spent all night on it.

Cheers
Ian

Easy....he spent too much time outside the garage smoking

Seriously tho.....it is a nightmare when things go wrong......i know....but you learn by mistakes...

Hows the saying go....'The man the never made mistakes...never made anything'

ClarCE · « **Reply #13 on:** 10 March 2007, 00:16:18 »

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Chris, What happened? Why do you think you cocked it up?

I'm really sorry to hear this after you spent all night on it.

Cheers
Ian

Just didn't use enough sealant where it counts I think - and I put it on the straights which I think was a mistake - I reckon the gaskets must have slid about on the sealant and not made a proper seal - or something!

One sides on again, the others just about ready - quick ciggie and then I'm going for it - spent about 3 hours just cleaning the muck and oil off of all the parts it plastered!

Cross those fingers...!

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #14 on:** 10 March 2007, 00:22:05 »

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Chris, What happened? Why do you think you cocked it up?

I'm really sorry to hear this after you spent all night on it.

Cheers
Ian

Just didn't use enough sealant where it counts I think - and I put it on the straights which I think was a mistake - I reckon the gaskets must have slid about on the sealant and not made a proper seal - or something!

One sides on again, the others just about ready - quick ciggie and then I'm going for it - spent about 3 hours just cleaning the muck and oil off of all the parts it plastered!

Cross those fingers...!

Good luck this time

If in doubt use a bit more black goo on the corners

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #15 on:** 10 March 2007, 00:33:33 »

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Chris, What happened? Why do you think you cocked it up?

I'm really sorry to hear this after you spent all night on it.

Cheers
Ian

Just didn't use enough sealant where it counts I think - and I put it on the straights which I think was a mistake - I reckon the gaskets must have slid about on the sealant and not made a proper seal - or something!

One sides on again, the others just about ready - quick ciggie and then I'm going for it - spent about 3 hours just cleaning the muck and oil off of all the parts it plastered!

Cross those fingers...!

Tho must add....you seem to like working on your meega....in the middle of the night!

im off to bed now....but good luck chris

ClarCE · « **Reply #16 on:** 10 March 2007, 04:26:13 »

Cheers TD

IS THAT THE TIME??!

I've just rolled her back onto the drive fully back together again, haven't tried turning her over, thought I'd leave that till the morning, give that sealant time to sort its life out..

Night / Morning,

Chris.

ClarCE · « **Reply #17 on:** 10 March 2007, 13:32:48 »

Just ran on the drive for 20 mins, smoke - then nothing - probably burning what I couldn't see to clean off..

Checked a plug, no oil - pity can't check passenger side easily.. got a 400 mile run planned on Tuesday, that'll be the real test..

Keep em crossed.. :-/

JamesV6CDX · « **Reply #18 on:** 10 March 2007, 14:02:10 »

Good luck mate, you should be OK though if the gaskets were genuine and you did the job alright

ClarCE · « **Reply #19 on:** 10 March 2007, 14:38:46 »

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Drivers side looks ok, passenger has oil YET AGAIN in the plug wells...

Maybe I need a new cover - it before I did it the FIRST time, some of the bolts were done up stupidly tight, and one was half hanging out - it doens't look warped, but perhaps it is..

It can wait at least a week, changing them twice in one week is enough to drive anybody nuts, three times is beyond a joke!

Perhaps if I get the bits one of you chaps would have a look for me, just to make sure I'm doing it right - although I'm pretty sure I am...

Still got to attempt my thermostat at some point, so maybe two birds, one stone...

Chris.

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #20 on:** 10 March 2007, 18:17:13 »

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ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Drivers side looks ok, passenger has oil YET AGAIN in the plug wells...

Maybe I need a new cover - it before I did it the FIRST time, some of the bolts were done up stupidly tight, and one was half hanging out - it doens't look warped, but perhaps it is..

It can wait at least a week, changing them twice in one week is enough to drive anybody nuts, three times is beyond a joke!

Perhaps if I get the bits one of you chaps would have a look for me, just to make sure I'm doing it right - although I'm pretty sure I am...

Still got to attempt my thermostat at some point, so maybe two birds, one stone...

Chris.

If someone can tell me honestly if its any harder to do the passenger cam cover gasket on a v6 than a 2.2 (ive done mine.....so know whats involved) then i could be willing to have a go......if its not any harder....while you change my disks and pads

(I recall youve done yours recently.....and its not something ive done before)

:-/

JamesV6CDX · « **Reply #21 on:** 10 March 2007, 18:24:37 »

Passenger side on the V6 is a bitch, isn't it Chris

ClarCE · « **Reply #22 on:** 10 March 2007, 18:43:55 »

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ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Drivers side looks ok, passenger has oil YET AGAIN in the plug wells...

Maybe I need a new cover - it before I did it the FIRST time, some of the bolts were done up stupidly tight, and one was half hanging out - it doens't look warped, but perhaps it is..

It can wait at least a week, changing them twice in one week is enough to drive anybody nuts, three times is beyond a joke!

Perhaps if I get the bits one of you chaps would have a look for me, just to make sure I'm doing it right - although I'm pretty sure I am...

Still got to attempt my thermostat at some point, so maybe two birds, one stone...

Chris.

If someone can tell me honestly if its any harder to do the passenger cam cover gasket on a v6 than a 2.2 (ive done mine.....so know whats involved) then i could be willing to have a go......if its not any harder....while you change my disks and pads (I recall youve done yours recently.....and its not something ive done before)

:-/

I reckon my problems are: knackered cam cover, due to idiots attacking it with a ratchet at some point to try and stop the leak and location / amount of sealant, although if my drivers side holds then I've got that sorted...

However, guidance always appreciated - and it *probably* wont take too long for me to do your discs and pads, mine were really straight forward..

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #23 on:** 10 March 2007, 19:10:23 »

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Passenger side on the V6 is a bitch, isn't it Chris

Ooopppsss offer withdrawn

Seriously tho dont mind turning up to lend a hand....but im not doing a nightshift

Anyone know how much a new cam cover is for a V6.....there plastic arent they?.....my 2.2 was...so wouldnt have thought they could be too much dollar :-/

sounds2k · « **Reply #24 on:** 10 March 2007, 20:12:15 »

the passenger side isn't *too* bad, it's more a case of keeping the damn wiring loom out of the way !!

covers are about £70-80 each - but come with new gaskets - passenger side is P/N 90501638

... and yes, they are plastic !!

Essex_Andy · « **Reply #25 on:** 10 March 2007, 20:13:01 »

when I done mine I removed the plastic conduit from the passenger side loom that runs over the cam cover. There's enough slack to keep all the cables clear and give the same amount of room as the drivers side

I also suggest removing these bits that are at the front of the passenger side exhaust cam; the cam sensor and the support bracket for one of the earth cables that runs along side the dipstick.

Apologies if you have already done that...best of luck

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