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[Proz]

As for the temp gauge .... on warm up mine goes up to 95 ish then drops back to 80-85 ish as the thermostat opens then settles at 85 .
Dont know if thats what you see but if it is i would say its normal .
If its going back to the bottom of the gauge ( or 0 as you say ) then possible gauge fault or low coolant  :-/

Does the warning for low coolant show ?

[Vamps]

Hi and welcome to OOF

If you post your location there may be someone with the correct equipment to read codes and perhaps look at live data etc .When my HBV went i saw a drip of water when looking from behind drivers side front wheel and looking up .
Was dripping over gearbox ... not much but thats where i saw it

Your in the right place for help 

What he said......

[griff2494]

thats the only problem lol

im in the army and am living out in northern germany,so one the language is a problem and two parts over here cost a fortune :-( so have to relay on parts coming from uk which again is a night mare as parcels seem to take anywhere from 2 to 6 weeks to arrive (bloody bfpo)

[mathewst]

For the temp gauge check behind the engine if the cable is loose.
For the coolant loss HBV is the most probable cause.
But also run the engine, turn the climate unit on (not on eco but full aircon) and then wait a couple of minutes and check the pipes for the coolant especially the one on the thermostat and the one bellow it.
Lover rubber pipe on mine leaked and it was only visible when the aircon was on because of slightl higher pressure in the pipes probably.

[griff2494]

now i def think there must be a prob :-(

i will check the coolant  asap
but went to work in her today ran sweet but i noticed the fuel gauge :-(

i put 40 litres in her yesterday and ive drove 146 miles and its empty again!!!!!

i no its a 2.2 but is that normal? seems very low miles to the gallon to me :-( and i never went above 70mph either!!!!

could that have some thing to do with the emissions light thats on on the dash (looks like a enige with a propeler stuck on it lol)

also tried 1,2,3 gears all seem fine but once its in D and you put the foot down it does not seem to pick up just carries on like before

cheers
griff

[mrgreen]

yes that's bad mileage should get 8.5 litres per 100k on a manual and add little bit more if it's an auto around 10 if i remember rightly as for parts I'm in austria and always use ebay or there are plenty of online shops around which are about the same money as the u.k although i bought some powerflex bushes off ebay.de and did not do well at all for price so comparison is the name of the game!

[mrgreen]

now i def think there must be a prob :-(

i will check the coolant  asap
but went to work in her today ran sweet but i noticed the fuel gauge :-(

i put 40 litres in her yesterday and ive drove 146 miles and its empty again!!!!!

i no its a 2.2 but is that normal? seems very low miles to the gallon to me :-( and i never went above 70mph either!!!!

could that have some thing to do with the emissions light thats on on the dash (looks like a enige with a propeler stuck on it lol)

also tried 1,2,3 gears all seem fine but once its in D and you put the foot down it does not seem to pick up just carries on like before
cheers
griff

do you mean it doesn't kick down a gear?

[griff2494]

yes does not seem to kick down,it did do before the light came on ,could it be some kick of default mode that kicks in once light goes on almost a limp mode

[Kneepad]

Yes it sounds like it's going in to limp mode. Would explain lack of power, lumpy idling and high consumption. Possibly MAF sensor but you really need to get the error codes.

[griff2494]

hi all again

right managaed to get a hour out at car tonight after work ,god its cold here lol froze my ...... off

anyway i started off by checking the plugs and coil pack (tested it by earthing the plugs around the threads and got a lovely blue spark)

but when i removed the plugs/coil i found this 
its from the fourth plug (nearest to bulk head)and 2 of the 4 plugs where loose


as you can see its covered in oily gunk!!!!!around the plug

but the colour of the plug seems healthy


also the coil pack its self on that pot was the same



what would course this? could this be where my coolant is going?
if so is this hg on the fourth pot?
(if it is the hg in one way it would be a relief as at least i would no)

i also had a very quick look at finding the coolant sender, i noticed when i found it that
1. the wirer/plug connection is not the correct type
2. and the wire it self has broken throw its plastic casing,which may explain why the gauge keeps going up and down,as may be earthing out?

[aaronjb]

Hard to tell in the picture but is that coolant or oil all over the plug?

Oil would be the well documented cam cover gasket failure (new gaskets, clean breathers, etc)..

[griff2494]

not realy sure its def oil but with the colour they may have been a bit of water too
(my camera was dead so had to take the pics on my web cam so as you saw not best qual)

[aaronjb]

I'll take a punt and say the water is probably just condensation from the cold weather, then, and the oil is cam cover gasket failure.

I believe andyc can do a kit of parts to do the gaskets, and there's a guide in the maintenance section on the gaskets and cleaning the breathers to stop them failing again.

[griff2494]

just won this on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360252507714&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

hope its the thing i need to read the codes etc???
ive got a saab 93 too so hopefully this tool is the right one as its says it does saabs too

[PhilRich]

Yes that will do the job Griff, but we aren't allowed to discuss them here as they are chinese clones of the real thing & therefore there are Copyright issues etc.
BTW, my money's on the No.4 plug cover causing your misfire!