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Omega General Help / Re: Fuel pump issue ? is it fubared ?
« on: 07 March 2021, 09:31:03 »
Thanks Enceladus . . .again good info and detective work . . Thank you 
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Omega General Help / Re: Fuel pump issue ? is it fubared ?
« on: 06 March 2021, 16:04:19 »Y :you've a pm. Just the pump or as it's removed with all the gubbins.
Check the relay, think it's purple one,
PM replied to
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Omega General Help / Re: Fuel pump issue ? is it fubared ?
« on: 06 March 2021, 13:32:48 »
Original pump body is 44mm diameter and case is 98mm long. Overall end to end of the inlet and outlet tubes is 150mm.
Agree Dave it could well have been changed to the earlier version but did not look like anyone had been in there previously. Original vx fuel pipepinch clips seemed untouched
The replacement bosch i was sent is 38mm diameter 88m long and 112mm end to end of the in and out
Agree Dave it could well have been changed to the earlier version but did not look like anyone had been in there previously. Original vx fuel pipepinch clips seemed untouched
The replacement bosch i was sent is 38mm diameter 88m long and 112mm end to end of the in and out
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Omega General Help / Re: Fuel pump issue ? is it fubared ?
« on: 06 March 2021, 11:50:32 »
Ah yes. . Good detective work Doc. If 2nd new one won't fit I will try that 30 quid used one you found.
Scrapping the car was mentioned purely out if frustration
Thanks for yours and everyone's help and input on this.
Scrapping the car was mentioned purely out if frustration
Thanks for yours and everyone's help and input on this.
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Omega General Help / Re: Fuel pump issue ? is it fubared ?
« on: 06 March 2021, 10:49:52 »
This pump won't fit. Too many differences to adapt. Much shorter, different smaller diameter, gauze filter won't fit on inlet which is different size, locating pins on bottom of pump don't match up. All bad news.
Ordered another which supposedly matches the original bosch number. If that don't fit then its either try and match up at a motor factors ,buy the complete swirl pot and pump or get one from a breaker. . . Or scrap the car
Ordered another which supposedly matches the original bosch number. If that don't fit then its either try and match up at a motor factors ,buy the complete swirl pot and pump or get one from a breaker. . . Or scrap the car
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Omega General Help / Re: Fuel pump issue ? is it fubared ?
« on: 06 March 2021, 08:10:46 »
All marked and photos taken Dave. Red is+ blue is -. Thinking of making spacer from copper or metal tubing. Plastic plumbing waste pipe would be ideal but doubt it is fuel proof.
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Omega General Help / Re: Fuel pump issue ? is it fubared ?
« on: 05 March 2021, 22:28:02 »
OK guys ,, have opened the Bosch box . . .exactly as the Doc expected . .
as in the same as the colour piccy in Daves post reply #39.
Looking at it I think it will be able to be made to fit and work. . but quite a bit shorter than what was in there . Same basic layout , gauze filter fits on bottom inlet, 2 power leads and outlet on top. May just have to make a spacer so the centre plastic bit ( No.8 ) holds the pump in place .
Will have a go tomorrow . . .cheers all
as in the same as the colour piccy in Daves post reply #39.
Looking at it I think it will be able to be made to fit and work. . but quite a bit shorter than what was in there . Same basic layout , gauze filter fits on bottom inlet, 2 power leads and outlet on top. May just have to make a spacer so the centre plastic bit ( No.8 ) holds the pump in place .
Will have a go tomorrow . . .cheers all
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Omega General Help / Re: Fuel pump issue ? is it fubared ?
« on: 05 March 2021, 22:21:48 »the fuel pump is electric , and that's not working out well
Having a mare with this . . .
the screen (6 or 7 ) will hold the pump down if the weight of the pump don't
if it fits in the swirl pot (not too fat) slap it in ,
i imagine the 30-35 mm is well in the movement of the delivery pipe without reducing the flow
I had similar (smaller pump than what was fitted) walbro ? in tank pump in a picasso , pumped the diesel just fine
"I'll think I'll go electric next time " . . .I meant electric car . . as in no petrol to pump
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Omega General Help / Re: Fuel pump issue ? is it fubared ?
« on: 05 March 2021, 21:22:02 »this is being made far more complex than it needs due to hundreds of part numbers
parts get superseded all the time
the bosch pump is 4 bar ,Lucas one is only 3 bar
the slight difference in length will be taken up by the flexible hose (15,16,17 or 18) clicky
0 580 453 985 is
8 15 036 — OPEL
9119098 — OPEL
9119098 — VAUXHALL
astra carlton, cavalier ,omega B (saloon and estate) vectra B, tigra etc
0 580 453 489 is
9196213 9231014 opel and vauxhall 9196213
https://spareto.com/products/bosch-fuel-pump/0-580-453-489
click on "installed on vehicles" tab
OPEL OMEGA B (25_, 26_, 27_) 3.2 V6
OPEL OMEGA B Estate (21_, 22_, 23_) 2.6 V6
OPEL OMEGA B Estate (21_, 22_, 23_) 2.2 16V
OPEL OMEGA B (25_, 26_, 27_) 2.6 V6
VAUXH OMEGA (B) Estate 3.0 V6
VAUXH OMEGA (B) Estate 2.6 V6
etc etc
Dave ,its about 30-35 mm shorter at a guess, if the pump is shorter , then the centre plastic locking ring No.8 in the exploded diagram will not hold the pump in place . It will not be able to push down on to the top of the pump. Pump sits in No.9 then part no. 8 goes over the top and clips it in . My original pump seems to be the largest of those three shown , No. 2 I think
Having a mare with this . . .
think I'll go electric next time
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Omega General Help / Re: Fuel pump issue ? is it fubared ?
« on: 05 March 2021, 21:14:13 »I would open the box to compare the pump body with the existing one. They may well be the same, with the difference being the pump casing rather than the pump itself
Yes doc . . .so would I . .but supplier says he will NOT refund or exchange once the seal on the packing is opened .
But . .just thinking . .F8uk it , Its only £32
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Omega General Help / Re: Fuel pump issue ? is it fubared ?
« on: 05 March 2021, 16:59:00 »Might help if you post up a good picture of your pump.
Your original part is NLS and superseded, hence I'm wondering if the later part can still be used with the earlier swirl-pot?
Might this be the pump you need, Delphi version.
Hi Enceladus . .apologies, that could well be the one , its the right size. i was confused by the outlet having no hole in it , it probably has a bung/cover on it in that photo. But still cant link that Delphi pump to the Bosch number
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Omega Electrical and Audio Help / Re: Help please 2.2 auto omega won’t start
« on: 05 March 2021, 16:47:17 »
Seems a bit scarey if your garage have just been replacing parts to try and get it to run, without a code diagnosis first .
But . . .Just a suggestion . . have you had the key apart to fit a new battery in the fob just prior to the car not starting ?
There is a tiny " immobiliser chip" that easily falls out of the key fob if you dont know it is there
Without this in place the car wont start .
Try a second key if you have one , as unlikely you will ever find the lost chip if it HAS been dropped
ECU failure is not unheard of on omegas due to age now . . but other more knowledgeable OOF members will advise you further. .
But . . .Just a suggestion . . have you had the key apart to fit a new battery in the fob just prior to the car not starting ?
There is a tiny " immobiliser chip" that easily falls out of the key fob if you dont know it is there
Without this in place the car wont start .
Try a second key if you have one , as unlikely you will ever find the lost chip if it HAS been dropped
ECU failure is not unheard of on omegas due to age now . . but other more knowledgeable OOF members will advise you further. .
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Omega General Help / Re: Fuel pump issue ? is it fubared ?
« on: 05 March 2021, 16:24:51 »Might help if you post up a good picture of your pump.
Your original part is NLS and superseded, hence I'm wondering if the later part can still be used with the earlier swirl-pot?
Might this be the pump you need, Delphi version.
No thats not it . . .I'm sorry but cant do pics . . (PC muppet ) But . . I think I have found one that corresponds to the OE
Bosch number . It is E bay item 233798369125 any thoughts on this might be the one ?
As regarding trying the later one to see if will fit , the supplier wont take it back if I break the seal on the box to investigate . .
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Omega General Help / Re: Fuel pump issue ? is it fubared ?
« on: 05 March 2021, 15:47:03 »
the part no. of the original pump 0 580 453 985 comes up as being for a senator on my googaling. So do I try and find one of those and just order it ?
also going to check the numbers on the Lucas one that Dave found and posted up
update : the Lucas one is the same number as the newly supplied one ends in 489
So now gonna search for a pump with this number 0 580 453 985
also going to check the numbers on the Lucas one that Dave found and posted up
update : the Lucas one is the same number as the newly supplied one ends in 489
So now gonna search for a pump with this number 0 580 453 985
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Omega General Help / Re: Fuel pump issue ? is it fubared ?
« on: 05 March 2021, 15:02:57 »
Supplier says if box is opened they will not exchange or refund. Yet another nightmare of online shopping.