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[Taxi_Driver]

Just been up to get a kebab, im back home.....but my 2.2 is parked on double yellows outside kebab shop refusing to start  

Its catching, splutters, then dies  

EML comes on when it dies , but isnt on during cranking or flashing...

It carnt be crank or cam sensor........coz i know 2.2's will start with them faulty/disconnected

Its got petrol in it......gauge says nearly 1/4 tank.....

Im lost atm to whats wrong.......batt has gone flat trying to start it.......gonna phone some mates in a min and go back up to it for a jump start......hopefully it will start  :-/ Otherwise its ticket time  

Any ideas anyone ?

[Auto Addict]

Are you sure about it starting with the cam sensor disconnected?

[Auto Addict]

Oil / water in the plug wells?

[Taxi_Driver]

Are you sure about it starting with the cam sensor disconnected?

Yes , it will, same as crank sensor.......takes its time but will start...

Counldnt get on OOf late last night, guess there were probs....but i went back up with a m8 and with trying to jump start it wouldnt  

Tho thankfully from help with kebab shop guys managed to push it  off double yellows so i wont get a ticket  

Going back in a short while.........with lappy......symptoms to me are like its outa petrol......but gauge says nearly 1/4 full.....so not sure.......gauge might be lying to me  :-/

[Taxi_Driver]

Oil / water in the plug wells?

Dont know AA........it hasn rained for a day or two here........and i have changed the cam cover gasket in the past......its always started ok before......

[Auto Addict]

Oil / water in the plug wells?

Dont know AA........it hasn rained for a day or two here........and i have changed the cam cover gasket in the past......its always started ok before......

Just clutching at straws....

[albitz]

fuel filter ? :-/

[Auto Addict]

fuel filter ? :-/

Yes, I was just wondering that.

[SP_3.2]

When  mine had starting probs last week which sounds a lot like your it  turned out to be a small hole in one of the rubber pipes in the fuel tank pick up pot under a a round metal plate with 4 srews under the mat in the boot. Only a 10 min job to check. with mine it was a very samll hole but was letting the pressure go back down and was like there was no fuel getting to the engine.  Could also check fuel relay for the clik.

Hope the is of some help and you get it back on the round.

[Taxi_Driver]

Ive chucked a gallon of petrol in it to be on the safe side and had another go with a 110amp/h battery.....flattened it  

Called my local garage.....who came out...they flatened 2 jump starter packs on it.....then recovered it to their garage.......

Im going back to the garage in a bit to check fuses and code read it.......see if that sheds any light on it  :-/

[Taxi_Driver]

When  mine had starting probs last week which sounds a lot like your it  turned out to be a small hole in one of the rubber pipes in the fuel tank pick up pot under a a round metal plate with 4 srews under the mat in the boot. Only a 10 min job to check. with mine it was a very samll hole but was letting the pressure go back down and was like there was no fuel getting to the engine.  Could also check fuel relay for the clik.

Hope the is of some help and you get it back on the round.

Cheers i'll check this.........i hope its not in the spare wheel well tho!! Coz theres an lpg tank bolted in there.....

[Taxi_Driver]

When  mine had starting probs last week which sounds a lot like your it  turned out to be a small hole in one of the rubber pipes in the fuel tank pick up pot under a a round metal plate with 4 srews under the mat in the boot. Only a 10 min job to check. with mine it was a very samll hole but was letting the pressure go back down and was like there was no fuel getting to the engine.  Could also check fuel relay for the clik.

Hope the is of some help and you get it back on the round.

You were pretty close  

After i checked all the fuses I read the ecu codes.....usual ones there plus 2 for the immobiliser.......so it looked like an immobiliser fault.......
Spoke to TB on the phone about it.......thanx for the time and texts TB   I checked immobiliser ecu wiring.....seemed ok.

Then garage boss decided to take a look.........

He checked the codes as well.......then decided to ignore them  

And start with basics........is there a spark? yes ok next
Is there fuel.......off with a fuel line......no......so why not.....
Hes got a gizzmo....that can override relays........ie you can pull relays plug this in and it just basically shorts the wires when he presses a button......he explains to me....that if the ecu is stopping fuel.....then this is overriding it and so would expect fuel......so he tried it on the fuel pump relay........still no fuel.......

He then stuck a meter across the fuel pump......got 12v......but he couldnt hear the pump......so he took it out.....put 12v across it and it worked....so he put back in.....reconnected fuel line and gave it go.....my 2.2 started   But not for long, it cut out after about 30secs   He tried starting it again but it just cranked.......so he tried a very technical procedure  .......he told me to keep cranking it while he hit the top of the pump with a hammer......it worked   my 2.2 started again.

So thats the explanation......a tired fuel pump that needs replacing.

I guess the immobiliser codes where faults thrown up coz a dying/flat battery.

Total cost for today (altho not counting loss of earnings) was, for recovery to garage......and fault finding it.......£45..pretty good i thought........altho i now have a stick on holder mounted to my dash......full of his business cards  

[CaptainZok]

When  mine had starting probs last week which sounds a lot like your it  turned out to be a small hole in one of the rubber pipes in the fuel tank pick up pot under a a round metal plate with 4 srews under the mat in the boot. Only a 10 min job to check. with mine it was a very samll hole but was letting the pressure go back down and was like there was no fuel getting to the engine.  Could also check fuel relay for the clik.

Hope the is of some help and you get it back on the round.

You were pretty close  

After i checked all the fuses I read the ecu codes.....usual ones there plus 2 for the immobiliser.......so it looked like an immobiliser fault.......
Spoke to TB on the phone about it.......thanx for the time and texts TB   I checked immobiliser ecu wiring.....seemed ok.

Then garage boss decided to take a look.........

He checked the codes as well.......then decided to ignore them  

And start with basics........is there a spark? yes ok next
Is there fuel.......off with a fuel line......no......so why not.....
Hes got a gizzmo....that can override relays........ie you can pull relays plug this in and it just basically shorts the wires when he presses a button......he explains to me....that if the ecu is stopping fuel.....then this is overriding it and so would expect fuel......so he tried it on the fuel pump relay........still no fuel.......

He then stuck a meter across the fuel pump......got 12v......but he couldnt hear the pump......so he took it out.....put 12v across it and it worked....so he put back in.....reconnected fuel line and gave it go.....my 2.2 started   But not for long, it cut out after about 30secs   He tried starting it again but it just cranked.......so he tried a very technical procedure  .......he told me to keep cranking it while he hit the top of the pump with a hammer......it worked   my 2.2 started again.

So thats the explanation......a tired fuel pump that needs replacing.

I guess the immobiliser codes where faults thrown up coz a dying/flat battery.

Total cost for today (altho not counting loss of earnings) was, for recovery to garage......and fault finding it.......£45..pretty good i thought........altho i now have a stick on holder mounted to my dash......full of his business cards  

and a knocking stick in the door pocket

[Taxi_Driver]

 

Dont think it calls for Sammy just yet  

[CaptainZok]

Dont think it calls for Sammy just yet  

Good job, I believe he's still AWOL.