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[Doctor Gollum]

What Nissan you got TB? One of those lovely Jukes? Or a[much loved by motability customers]Quashqai?

I haven't lost all driving ability yet, so none of those. I think its called Serena?

That skinny 6 seater mpv thingy

Hateful thing, but probably the fastest vehicle on the island

[TheBoy]

That skinny 6 seater mpv thingy

Tranny sized, 8 seater, complete with Merc style "hand" brake.

Hateful thing, but probably the fastest vehicle on the island

I think you mean slowest .  But, still, it was only £400 for the week, and does what we need it to do .  And it has really, really good aircon

[Doctor Gollum]

and weight 10 times more, the K10s were like bisguit tins and rusted as fast!

Everything is getting silly heavy, the latest M5 weighs more than a new 110 Defender diesel 

Mk1 Lotus Elise is somehow a lightweight at 725kg. How the hell can an aluminium chassied, glassfibre bodied, barely trimmed,  minimally equipped, 2 seater convertible weigh almost as much as a mk1 Golf?

That's not that much lighter than a Sierra XR4x4i, especially when you allow for the other three seats, and doors

The Sierra is arguably a better performing car too.

The (RWD) XR4 must be one of the most disappointing cars I've ever had the displeasure of driving.  Not particularly quick and fairly heavy for its era, and I always found the steering was a bit laggy.  Tailgate struts never seemed to last either, lol.

The XR4x4i was a bit of a missile I had an early facelift one that had been ordered without ABS... Ford had just offered it as a no cost option for the 1988 MY, previously a £1,000 option, but the original owner clearly thought better of it and ordered it without... Which kept you on your toes

It was one of those cars though... Even Mum used to get pulled over in it thanks to a marker from Essex following a series of smash and grab robberies in it's history.

Looked and went well though in black with the Sapphire Cosworth body kit and later lights.

[Doctor Gollum]

That skinny 6 seater mpv thingy

Tranny sized, 8 seater, complete with Merc style "hand" brake.

Hateful thing, but probably the fastest vehicle on the island

I think you mean slowest .  But, still, it was only £400 for the week, and does what we need it to do .  And it has really, really good aircon

Don't tell me you've become reformed

[TheBoy]

and weight 10 times more, the K10s were like bisguit tins and rusted as fast!

Everything is getting silly heavy, the latest M5 weighs more than a new 110 Defender diesel 

Mk1 Lotus Elise is somehow a lightweight at 725kg. How the hell can an aluminium chassied, glassfibre bodied, barely trimmed,  minimally equipped, 2 seater convertible weigh almost as much as a mk1 Golf?

That's not that much lighter than a Sierra XR4x4i, especially when you allow for the other three seats, and doors

The Sierra is arguably a better performing car too.

The (RWD) XR4 must be one of the most disappointing cars I've ever had the displeasure of driving.  Not particularly quick and fairly heavy for its era, and I always found the steering was a bit laggy.  Tailgate struts never seemed to last either, lol.

The XR4x4i was a bit of a missile I had an early facelift one that had been ordered without ABS... Ford had just offered it as a no cost option for the 1988 MY, previously a £1,000 option, but the original owner clearly thought better of it and ordered it without... Which kept you on your toes

It was one of those cars though... Even Mum used to get pulled over in it thanks to a marker from Essex following a series of smash and grab robberies in it's history.

Looked and went well though in black with the Sapphire Cosworth body kit and later lights.

The RWD XR4i was one of those cars that appealed to my teenage self back in the day, and aspired to.  Maybe that made reality even more disappointing when I drove the first one I did.  And then all the others were no better.  Big, heavy, cumbersome lump that wasn't great in bends, and was IMHO bullishly flat in a straight line.  I think from memory, it was the same lump as what Bro had in his MkII Grandad 2.8i Ghia?

The other "big car" I always wanted was the 24v Senator when it first came out, never bought one of those either .  Ended up with a MkII Astra GTE instead - that wasn't much cop in the corners either

[TheBoy]

That skinny 6 seater mpv thingy

Tranny sized, 8 seater, complete with Merc style "hand" brake.

Hateful thing, but probably the fastest vehicle on the island

I think you mean slowest .  But, still, it was only £400 for the week, and does what we need it to do .  And it has really, really good aircon

Don't tell me you've become reformed

I tell ya, I'm a fully reformed character since my patronisation course.  I haven't even managed 80kph in the Nissan yet. Not actually sure it will do it

[Doctor Gollum]

Next time you get invited to one of those reaffirmation sessions, you should wear one of Sue's summer dresses and wait for them to say something.

[STEMO]

Next time you get invited to one of those reaffirmation sessions, you should wear one of Sue's summer dresses and wait for them to say something.

Errrrrmmmm......NOOOOOOOOOOO.....please, no. 🤢

[TheBoy]

I do that every weekend anyway

[TheBoy]

Do you need photographic evidence, STEMO?

[STEMO]

Do you need photographic evidence, STEMO?

Ohhhhh......go on then. Just out of curiosity, you understand 

[Marks DTM Calib]

Do you need photographic evidence, STEMO?

Ohhhhh......go on then. Just out of curiosity, you understand 

Here you go:

[Sir Tigger KC]

Do you need photographic evidence, STEMO?

Ohhhhh......go on then. Just out of curiosity, you understand 

Here you go:

That's uncanny! 

[STEMO]

Not as bad as I imagined, actually 

[Rangie]

Do you need photographic evidence, STEMO?

Ohhhhh......go on then. Just out of curiosity, you understand 

Here you go:

. 

After 10 pints probably looks stunning..😂