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[Sir Tigger KC]

Trouble is, playing that game, you can't be to sure where your end will end up 

Somewhere warm and wet hopefully!                                                                      

                  Ahh........ Horlicks

Is that your pet sheep's name Rae? 

[Entwood]

Some of the rhetoric and refusal to see the obvious is getting boring now .... along with the wild claims ... perhaps these might help a wee tad ...


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-54811410

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/54562611

[Doctor Gollum]

There was a statement yesterday from Georgia that clarified the nature of the software errors both in Georgia and Michigan, (they use the same software), but that doesn't alter the issues being formally challenged.

Georgia, North Carolina and Arizona are pretty much counted but are, along with Wisconsin and possibly Nevada, close enough to trigger a recount.

Pennsylvania is a whole separate issue, and warrants much closer judicial/independent/bipartisan investigation.

A couple of points that are worth repeating are:

1. Biden is categorically NOT the President Elect until the States all certify their results AND they have been verified by the Electoral College. He certainly shouldn't be presuming that he is, nor publically acting like he is. And I wonder if that the constant media repetition calling Biden 'President Elect' is worthy of a complaint to the Press Complaints Commission.

2. For all the 'speculation', it is a matter for the relevant courts to assess and decide any allegations and evidence and NOT the media.

It's worth noting that the only mainstream media outlet to be openly questioning the situation is Sky News Australia. All the other reporting in anything like a balanced way are is by small independent media companies both here and in the US.

[Rangie]

Just seen the latest 💰

[Entwood]

There was a statement yesterday from Georgia that clarified the nature of the software errors both in Georgia and Michigan, (they use the same software), but that doesn't alter the issues being formally challenged.

Georgia, North Carolina and Arizona are pretty much counted but are, along with Wisconsin and possibly Nevada, close enough to trigger a recount.

Pennsylvania is a whole separate issue, and warrants much closer judicial/independent/bipartisan investigation.

A couple of points that are worth repeating are:

1. Biden is categorically NOT the President Elect until the States all certify their results AND they have been verified by the Electoral College. He certainly shouldn't be presuming that he is, nor publically acting like he is. And I wonder if that the constant media repetition calling Biden 'President Elect' is worthy of a complaint to the Press Complaints Commission.

2. For all the 'speculation', it is a matter for the relevant courts to assess and decide any allegations and evidence and NOT the media.

It's worth noting that the only mainstream media outlet to be openly questioning the situation is Sky News Australia. All the other reporting in anything like a balanced way are is by small independent media companies both here and in the US.

If that is the case then why have spent 32 pages tellling us that you are right and the rest of the world is wrong

[Doctor Gollum]

The book deal?  Most western leaders leave office with one...

[Doctor Gollum]

I am as entitled to as much of an opinion as you or the next person.

Just because you don't agree with that opinion doesn't make either opinion right or wrong.

[STEMO]

Just got a copy of the epoch times through my door. Jeez, what a load of old right wing shite. 

They love Trump, of course.

[Lizzie Zoom]

I am as entitled to as much of an opinion as you or the next person.

Just because you don't agree with that opinion doesn't make either opinion right or wrong.

  Dead right!   I will remember that though when you are next attacking me for making a statement of opinion.

As for the whole argument: All I know is that in spite of Trump having a very expensive legal team in place and they were due to make an announcement giving proof of a fraudulent election two days ago there has been.......................................silence!!

Let all us Brits just sit back and let the American electoral and legal systems do their business and prove whatever is to be proved

[STEMO]

I am as entitled to as much of an opinion as you or the next person.

Just because you don't agree with that opinion doesn't make either opinion right or wrong.

  Dead right!   I will remember that though when you are next attacking me for making a statement of opinion.

As for the whole argument: All I know is that in spite of Trump having a very expensive legal team in place and they were due to make an announcement giving proof of a fraudulent election two days ago there has been.......................................silence!!

Let all us Brits just sit back and let the American electoral and legal systems do their business and prove whatever is to be proved

Silence? Have you seen YouTube recently? 

[Lizzie Zoom]

I am as entitled to as much of an opinion as you or the next person.

Just because you don't agree with that opinion doesn't make either opinion right or wrong.

  Dead right!   I will remember that though when you are next attacking me for making a statement of opinion.

As for the whole argument: All I know is that in spite of Trump having a very expensive legal team in place and they were due to make an announcement giving proof of a fraudulent election two days ago there has been.......................................silence!!

Let all us Brits just sit back and let the American electoral and legal systems do their business and prove whatever is to be proved

Silence? Have you seen YouTube recently? 

Youtube..................like the rest of social media..............who the Fxck are they?!!

God help us the day those curses on modern life start dictating what political decisions are made....................oh, hang on, perhaps they do already!!

 

[Rangie]

I am as entitled to as much of an opinion as you or the next person.

Just because you don't agree with that opinion doesn't make either opinion right or wrong.

  Dead right!   I will remember that though when you are next attacking me for making a statement of opinion.

As for the whole argument: All I know is that in spite of Trump having a very expensive legal team in place and they were due to make an announcement giving proof of a fraudulent election two days ago there has been.......................................silence!!

Let all us Brits just sit back and let the American electoral and legal systems do their business and prove whatever is to be proved

.   


I find it best just to ignore some folk Lizzie.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Some of the rhetoric and refusal to see the obvious is getting boring now .... along with the wild claims ... perhaps these might help a wee tad ...


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-54811410

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/54562611

How do you think that posting articles from the BBC of all news outlets is going convince any conspiracy theorists? 

If there is an American establishment plot to get rid of Donald Trump, then you can be sure that the BBC will be up their neck in it along with all the other MSM outlets.  The American 'Deep State', both Republican and Democrats, loath Donald Trump with a passion so it's entirely feasible that there's an establishment stitch up going on.  We saw it here with BREXIT after all. 

The interesting thing is that as things stand the balance of power has edged away from the Democrats in the House of Representatives, and maybe Nancy Pelosi won't get re-elected as Speaker. It looks as though the Republicans will retain control of the Senate, so it's unlikely that Joe Biden can do anything radical with his presidency.  It's possible that this is a cosy arrangement for the next 4 years and then all bets are off again.... Unless Trump runs again. 

The MSM are all screaming that there's no evidence of electoral fraud.  The BBC last week even immediately claimed that Donald Trump was making false claims of irregularities.  How did they know?   It's not their place to decide whether something like that is false or not.    The fact is that, if there has been shenanigans going on to get rid of Trump, they are hardly likely to leave evidence lying around.  Are they?    So maybe there is evidence out there or maybe not, but I'm sure if there is it will take time and determination to root it out.  Time Mr Trump possibly doesn't have. 

Finally,  I'll repeat what I said earlier about the Hunter Biden laptop story.  Had that been the Eric Trump laptop story the MSM would have had a feeding frenzy and would have demanded evidence that Donald Trump didn't profit from his sons dodgy business dealings in Ukraine, Russia and China.  As it was the MSM and social media companies suppressed the story and Twitter even suspended the New York Post's account!

Joe Biden will be the 46th President of the United States of America, but for me the whiff of corruption will always follow him around. 

I love a good conspiracy theory me! 

[STEMO]

Probably a whiff of piss, too 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Probably a whiff of piss, too 

That too!