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General Car Chat / Re: My LR Reliability thread

« on: 05 August 2022, 16:08:25 »

In general, yes, very much so. In that spec, fu£k no.  . I definitely prefer my cars in a proper colour, particularly in LR products where I associate black and white cars with the more nefarious end of society. Plus I think black wheels look cack I. 99% of their applications.

If a 7 seat L405 existed, I would have had one of those. But, having a more-than-occasional need to carry 6-7 people, I would have had to hang onto a third car, making the range rover impractical due to drive space and cost reasons. Going down to two daily cars featured heavily in the man-maths of the disco.

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General Car Chat / Re: In the name of all that is holy. How hard can rear shocks be?

« on: 05 August 2022, 10:47:35 »

Well done sir, that looked like a fu£king epic!

As you say, hopefully next time (as and when that is) will be easier  .

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General Car Chat / Re: My LR Reliability thread

« on: 04 August 2022, 22:46:45 »

Yes, while I'm sure the 2 litre lump is very capable (about 240 bhp?), a 3 litre in a Disco just seems right somehow. 

Much difference in tax & fuel economy Jim? 

Mind you as the old saying goes... If you have to ask....  

The fuel economy I can't comment on yet, but I suspect the type of miles I'm doing (95% motorway) the difference will be negligible, if I had to guess I'd say it will be in the stop-start stuff where the 3.0 is significantly more thirsty. I will investigate and report back  .

Tax is an uptick, £300 odd for the 2.0, £500 odd for the 3.0, which is a pita, but, as you say, if I were down to £20pcm making the difference, I really shouldn't have bought the car.

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General Car Chat / Re: My LR Reliability thread

« on: 04 August 2022, 19:28:50 »

Get a Landcruiser, you know how the saying goes, if you want to go into the desert take a Landrover, if you want to come back take a Landcruiser 

I had considered these, but they really didn't feel 'special' enough to justify the cost they seem to command. I didn't drive it though, so can't comment on that side of things. Also the new(er) ones are absolutely fugly, I mean the D5 isn't handsome but but the LC is in a different league! 

Feel free to ping me the Reg or VIN and I can have a little look on the system

Thanks Mark, very kind of you! I will drop you a note

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General Car Chat / Re: My LR Reliability thread

« on: 03 August 2022, 23:40:03 »

So today, in hopefully a conclusion to this sorry tale, I put a deposit down on a newer D5 that happened to come into one of our local LR dealers over the weekend. A 68 plate facelift 3.0, Loire Blue, tan interior and just about every possible option 

It's an ex JLR vehicle (OE registration) and was allegedly a former VIP car - which I could believe, or it could be total tosh, either way, it's rather lovely. Slightly oddly, it's had 'downgraded' 20" wheels, which I actually prefer. It's a newer, lower mileage and a better car than the green one, but then again, it was more expensive.

The car needs its first MOT and hasn't been through their workshop for checking, but was fully serviced at the dealer about 6 weeks ago. I can't wait for it to be ready 

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General Car Chat / Re: My LR Reliability thread

« on: 02 August 2022, 22:33:48 »

Unfortunately yes.

I formally rejected the car today. Mostly because it still hadn't moved from the garage in Shrewsbury until about 3pm today. Sometime after I'd called them to tell them I wasn't playing anymore.

In truth I'm sad that it's come to that, but on principle I couldn't let them take the pi$$ any longer. In the end, they didn't offer much resistance, once I'd quoted chapter and verse at them anyway.

I really don't know what to do now tbh, we do need another vehicle pretty sharpish, but I've rather lost enthusiasm for the whole thing 

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General Car Chat / Re: My LR Reliability thread

« on: 31 July 2022, 17:52:44 »

I hope so too, and we can get on with actually using the thing. 

For the moment the 428i is hanging around as my daily, 250bhp is enough for a motorway hack and it returns close to 40mpg on a run.  Other than the small petrol tank it's pretty well perfect for the role. In the medium term an EV may rejoin the fleet, once you can get one again, obviously.

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General Car Chat / Re: My LR Reliability thread

« on: 31 July 2022, 00:26:00 »

Well, it seems pretty quiet on here so I thought I'd bore you with the next installment.

Burford wanted the car back to do the work and have managed to beg borrow or steal an inlet manifold out of the LR dealer network (I've told them I need a copy of the invoice for the part to prove its provenance). The car was due to goto them on Friday, unfortunately this task was given to the RAC who it seems can't find their ar$e with both hands and a map. Or in this case an enormous green 4x4.

They managed to turn up at Burford, expecting to bring a car up to Shropshire, the exact opposite of what was required of them. They then tried to blame me for this and wanted to charge me for the privilege. I sacked them off more than a decade ago when they left me stranded during a cold snap, then lied to me about what they had done. It's good to see things haven't improved in the last 10yrs.   

Car is now due for collection (possibly) on Monday morning so should be back with me by mid next week. 


Maybe...

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General Car Chat / Re: My LR Reliability thread

« on: 28 July 2022, 17:47:31 »

So the car wasn't in the LR network, came from a company called Buford Cars darn sarf.

I haven't pushed for a temporary car as we are a bit overrun ATM. I've got the kit car on the drive (no garage space at the rental), the Zafira, the electric appliance and the OH's 428i. The ev is mine to use for free for another week yet. So, while a rental would be nice, it's the last thing I want just now.

However, I will be having a conversation about the finance payments....

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General Car Chat / Re: My LR Reliability thread

« on: 28 July 2022, 16:11:06 »

A possibility, and 100% one I would look into if the car were out of warranty Andy. TBH at the moment I have plenty on with a house move, and job change in the space of a month, so I am letting the garage get on with it for now. I also don't have a part number to hand to know what I am looking for.

.......and breathe.

Plenty of time for that when your dea.....

Nevermind 

Been eyeing up a 1.9cdti signum elite to get me mobile if it all goes titsup

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General Car Chat / Re: My LR Reliability thread

« on: 28 July 2022, 15:16:30 »

A possibility, and 100% one I would look into if the car were out of warranty Andy. TBH at the moment I have plenty on with a house move, and job change in the space of a month, so I am letting the garage get on with it for now. I also don't have a part number to hand to know what I am looking for.

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General Car Chat / Re: My LR Reliability thread

« on: 28 July 2022, 13:34:38 »

Yes.....if the period without your new wheels is brief it may be the way to go......I wouldn't let it drag on though.

How much warranty came with the car?

Indeed, I'm giving them fair chance to find a part, but I reckon if they haven't magicked one up in the next 48hrs, it won't be forthcoming.

Warranty is 3yrs, £10k claim limit, total limit to the invoice value of the car. Covers everything as far as I can tell. Not that we're dipping into that yet, currently it's all on the supplying dealer.

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General Car Chat / Re: My LR Reliability thread

« on: 28 July 2022, 12:51:33 »

Being a simpleton, I would have thought that making things out of plastic, when the operate a) under pressure and b) in a high temperature environment (in this case a very short distance away from the dpf for one thing) would be a recipe for problems. But hey, what do I know…

It is a shame though, because the car is a genuinely lovely place to sit, far nicer than the competition offer, in fact that’s what persuaded me to set aside my misgivings about the brand and buy one. Not that I’ve had more luck with certain other brands in the past .

The supplying dealer are having the car taken back to them today on a low loader. It remains to be seen if I ever see it again… 

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General Car Chat / Re: My LR Reliability thread

« on: 28 July 2022, 10:25:21 »

So, we progress, although not all that far...

After running through the required diagnostics, the garage found that the issue is a badly cracked inlet manifold. I have no idea how this would make the problem intermittent as described but there we are... that's why I am not a mechanic.

The problem is that, it being 2022, there aren't any to be bought from LR as apparently they are on back order. The supplying dealer is trying to persuade the LR dealer network to cough one up that is already allocated to a job (apparently they are about half a dozen found so far, in various corners of the UK).

Where I have left it with the dealer is that if they can find a new, unused genuine part (complete with genuine LR/dealer invoice) within a couple of days then I am happy to proceed with the repair. If they cannot, then the car will need to be returned to them. At this rate this could be by far and away the shortest car ownership experience of my life   

The failure of such a major component after 5yrs/51,000 miles also doesn't bode well for the long term but hey ho, that's a problem for another day.     

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General Discussion Area / Re: The White House...

« on: 27 July 2022, 22:30:16 »

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