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[Rangie]

The words slave & master in reference to car parts has been banned as some workers have found it offensive..😟

[Lizzie Zoom]

Now that is going too far down the woke line

[Andy B]

what are the new terms then? 

[Rangie]

what are the new terms then? 

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The word Surrogate is to be used in place of both.

[Varche]

Little bit and big bit?

[TheBoy]

The words slave & master in reference to car parts has been banned as some workers have found it offensive..😟

Thats been common across a lot of industries for the past couple of years.

In the IT industry, we no longer use Master/Slave references in clusters, now its Primary Secondary.  Whitelists and Blacklists no longer exist, if favour of Allow Lists and Deny Lists.


To start a rage about it now is 2 years too late.

[Marks DTM Calib]

Well we didn't get that memo 

Just been on a calling discusing the Master and Slave audio DSPs

[Rangie]

The words slave & master in reference to car parts has been banned as some workers have found it offensive..😟

Thats been common across a lot of industries for the past couple of years.

In the IT industry, we no longer use Master/Slave references in clusters, now its Primary Secondary.  Whitelists and Blacklists no longer exist, if favour of Allow Lists and Deny Lists.


To start a rage about it now is 2 years too late.

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It's never too late to expose total stupidity..😟

[Andy B]

are we allowed the terms of male & female?

[Doctor Gollum]

are we allowed the terms of male & female?

Presumably these are now out and in respectively...

[Raeturbo]

The words slave & master in reference to car parts has been banned as some workers have found it offensive..😟

Thats been common across a lot of industries for the past couple of years.

In the IT industry, we no longer use Master/Slave references in clusters, now its Primary Secondary.  Whitelists and Blacklists no longer exist, if favour of Allow Lists and Deny Lists.


To start a rage about it now is 2 years too late.

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                   No he’s right, better late than never, don’t be a pussy

[Raeturbo]

Fuc&ing woke squad are taking over

[Sir Tigger KC]

The words slave & master in reference to car parts has been banned as some workers have found it offensive..😟

Thats been common across a lot of industries for the past couple of years.

In the IT industry, we no longer use Master/Slave references in clusters, now its Primary Secondary.  Whitelists and Blacklists no longer exist, if favour of Allow Lists and Deny Lists.


To start a rage about it now is 2 years too late.

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                   No he’s right, better late than never, don’t be a pussy

He's not, he just sits in one every day. A big black one! 

[Raeturbo]

 Of course I wouldn’t know that👀👀🤣👍

[Raeturbo]

As if😀🫵

[TheBoy]

He's not, he just sits in one every day. A big black one! 

I've neglected the big black pussy for days, and not spent any time in her.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

are we allowed the terms of male & female?

Only if you don't exclude the other 159 variants.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

He's not, he just sits in one every day. A big black one! 

I've neglected the big black pussy for days, and not spent any time in her.

My original XFR was a black pussy. Ultimate black I think. Bastard to keep clean but suitably demonic looking in the flesh.

[Andy B]

the maddest JLR thing is that to remove the engine from a RR Sport(?), the body has to come off the chassis! 

[Doctor Gollum]

the maddest JLR thing is that to remove the engine from a RR Sport(?), the body has to come off the chassis! 

10/12 bolts rather than dismantle the engine in situ

[Andy B]

the maddest JLR thing is that to remove the engine from a RR Sport(?), the body has to come off the chassis! 

10/12 bolts rather than dismantle the engine in situ

brake lines, electrickery loom, 2 poster lift .....

[Marks DTM Calib]

the maddest JLR thing is that to remove the engine from a RR Sport(?), the body has to come off the chassis! 

Who told you that?

Just checked the 494 procedure, no different to any other car, disconnect a load of bits and lift out the top (and thats the straight six)

Also checked the 320, again no different to any other or the 494

None are body off jobs 

[Doctor Gollum]

the maddest JLR thing is that to remove the engine from a RR Sport(?), the body has to come off the chassis! 

10/12 bolts rather than dismantle the engine in situ

brake lines, electrickery loom, 2 poster lift .....

Looms will have multiplex plugs, and the brake lines can stay with the chassis. Just unbolt the master from the booster.

[Rangie]

the maddest JLR thing is that to remove the engine from a RR Sport(?), the body has to come off the chassis! 

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Watched my indi do one even he agrees in his words " it's a piece of piss & everything is accessible" The one he was working on was in for new turbos.

[Andy B]

the maddest JLR thing is that to remove the engine from a RR Sport(?), the body has to come off the chassis! 

Who told you that?

Just checked the 494 procedure, no different to any other car, disconnect a load of bits and lift out the top (and thats the straight six)

Also checked the 320, again no different to any other or the 494

None are body off jobs 

I might have the wrong LR then ... hence the (?) ...

[Andy B]

the maddest JLR thing is that to remove the engine from a RR Sport(?), the body has to come off the chassis! 

Who told you that?

Just checked the 494 procedure, no different to any other car, disconnect a load of bits and lift out the top (and thats the straight six)

Also checked the 320, again no different to any other or the 494

None are body off jobs 

Range Rover ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSuTngCAoSQ&list=PLD84zAgh0k_gn1mIa5RPVl7ohSKc43B1F

[Viral_Jim]

the maddest JLR thing is that to remove the engine from a RR Sport(?), the body has to come off the chassis! 

Who told you that?

Just checked the 494 procedure, no different to any other car, disconnect a load of bits and lift out the top (and thats the straight six)

Also checked the 320, again no different to any other or the 494

None are body off jobs 

I might have the wrong LR then ... hence the (?) ...

Presumably this is referring to the L320 RR Sport? IIRC these were basically an L319 (Disco 3) in a party frock and these too had a number of body off jobs.

In all cases, I think the jobs were *possible* without removing the bodies, but experience showed it was easier and quicker to do. As said, its about a dozen bolts, brake lines, some electrical connectors etc. the issue is having the lift (and roof space) to do it.

[Andy B]

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Presumably this is referring to the L320 RR Sport? IIRC these were basically an L319 (Disco 3) in a party frock and these too had a number of body off jobs.  .....

I thought a Range Rover was a Ranger Rover ..... 

[Sir Tigger KC]

.....
Presumably this is referring to the L320 RR Sport? IIRC these were basically an L319 (Disco 3) in a party frock and these too had a number of body off jobs.  .....

I thought a Range Rover was a Ranger Rover .....

Not everything is always as it seems...                 

The Evoke for example.                                                                                                                                         Yeah yeah I know it's Evoque.   

[Marks DTM Calib]

the maddest JLR thing is that to remove the engine from a RR Sport(?), the body has to come off the chassis! 

Who told you that?

Just checked the 494 procedure, no different to any other car, disconnect a load of bits and lift out the top (and thats the straight six)

Also checked the 320, again no different to any other or the 494

None are body off jobs 

Range Rover ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSuTngCAoSQ&list=PLD84zAgh0k_gn1mIa5RPVl7ohSKc43B1F

Not the documented method at all, just how they have chosen to do it, can't say it looks easier either (engine change time is about 7 hours using the prescribed approach)

[Marks DTM Calib]

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Presumably this is referring to the L320 RR Sport? IIRC these were basically an L319 (Disco 3) in a party frock and these too had a number of body off jobs.  .....

I thought a Range Rover was a Ranger Rover ..... 

Its a shared platform, as it is today, and as every manufacturer does. When you consider a platform costs many billions to develop its sensible.

As an example, the recent Range Rover, Range Rover Sport and Dicovery are D7u, Defender is D7x, XE, XF, F-Pace and Velar are D7a, i-Pace is D7e, there are some similarities in how it goes together, but thats it

New Range Rover and Range Rover sport is MLA (New platform).

Look at the VAG range and you will see the golf platform all over the place (MQB)

Also Mercedes MRA is common across loads of the range (and creates an issue at the bottom and top end for them as a result, hence the A class having a new platform which will move across thier lower segments)

Similarly BMW, who many say have now destroyed the 1 series by using the Mini transverse platform meaning there is no rear wheel drive 1 series available any more, only AWD with FWD for cruising.

[Andy B]

Thanks Mark 
I know that I never know a Range Rover from a Discovery ...