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[Raeturbo]

Get it a job then😎

[Doctor Gollum]

But I don't own a (working) alarm clock....

Or an EV. So you'll still be able to leave the house when you want

[Migalot]

 "Although less common than gas-powered vehicle fires, electric vehicle (EV) fires can be extremely difficult to put out and in many cases, require 10 times as much water to extinguish."

So if your EV catches fire, just hope there's a hydrant nearby as fire engines don't carry 4,500 gallons of water. Also, according to a comment under the video "And Tesla's door handles don't pop out without the car being in park, which means, if someone crashes and it catches on fire, it's hard to get people out because of the design flaws in door handles."

In a nutshell, have fun trying to get your EV charged this winter and, if you that lucky, just don't crash and burn or it might end in an early cremation. 

https://youtu.be/BDtBvQH0R7I

[Doctor Gollum]

The same reason why you aren't allowed to put lithium powered stuff in your hold luggage on a plane.

[Migalot]

The same reason why you aren't allowed to put lithium powered stuff in your hold luggage on a plane.

Indeed, thermal runaway is not advisable when you're 40,000 feet up.

[Sir Tigger KC]

The same reason why you aren't allowed to put lithium powered stuff in your hold luggage on a plane.

Indeed, thermal runaway is not advisable when you're 40,000 feet up.

What happens if it goes off in the cabin?   

It's not like you can chuck it out the window is it? 

[Andy H]

In an alternative universe the EVs are plugged into home chargers whenever they are not being driven.

The home/car owner uses their smart electricity meter to play the electricity markets by charging when the electricity is cheap and feeding into the grid when prices rise.

That leftie thinking is great, but what happens when you go to use the car and find out there's no sparkles left because you sold it all back to the grid

Joking aside, you know this is when a parent/child gets rushed to hospital, or you oversleep because the bedside alarm didn't reset following the forced power cut.

Many people on this forum are here because they don't buy into the 'take it to the dealer a don't ask questions ' ethos.
Tesla & Apple both follow the 'pay up and don't bother your pretty little head with stuff you don't understand ' approach which is why I won't own one unless/until they open up and give the user control (& right to repair). I wouldn't characterise Tesla or Apple as left wing BTW.
For the EV owners to buy into automatic peak lopping the providers are going to have to give the owners the controls they need. Eg by setting a minimum amount of charge to leave in the battery at all times and by setting some economic criteria (charge below x pence per unit, discharge above y pence per unit)

[Doctor Gollum]

The same reason why you aren't allowed to put lithium powered stuff in your hold luggage on a plane.

Indeed, thermal runaway is not advisable when you're 40,000 feet up.

What happens if it goes off in the cabin?   

It's not like you can chuck it out the window is it? 

Only solution, I suspect, is to place the offending item into an oven and shut the door. In reality this will involve a degree of serious injury, but it might just save the aircraft.

At worst, at least a lithium fire in the cabin would be more easily detected and therefore give time and options, rather than the Valuejet incident which went from 'why doesn't that work?' to total death via 'why has the floor melted? ' in all of two minutes.

Also, there's significantly less chance of a lithium battery fire in the cabin... Usually they are from a dropped phone/tablet getting down the side of a seat and the seat being moved, crushing the phone/battery... If this happens to you, DO NOT MOVE YOUR SEAT.

In the hold, there is significantly higher chances of moisture shorting the battery because the holds aren't routinely heated, so condensation is a real probability. Ever wondered why your suitcase is soaking wet when you collect it and it's not raining? It's because that really annoying family of seven you spent all holiday avoiding and the whole flight wishing you were sat in business, on another flight, spent the afternoon in the pool and put their wet towels in their suitcases.

Fully charge a laptop battery or power bank, and then spray it with a light mist of water, and see what happens.

But back to your original question, I will let you know when I do my SEP course at the end of the month. 

[LC0112G]

The problem with lithium in the hold is that it''ll be packed in with lots of other very flammable stuff - peoples clothes. The fire can start and spread very quickly, and neither the crew nor passengers have access to the baggage holds in flight to do anything about it. Larger aircraft also pack the luggage into large aluminium pallets which means the ground baggage handlers just load a dozen or so 'crates' rather than thousands of individual bags. If a fire starts in one of these then it'll be well alight before any smoke reaches the cabin.

A fire in cabin baggage will be noticed much more rapidly, and you can then move any other stuff away from the seat of the fire to slow the spread. DG will no doubt tell us the official procedure once Stelios has given him his orange stilletoes, but I suspect it'll be something like try to get it into one of the aluminium galley chests/bins that they keep the food in and then drown it in water. 

[Doctor Gollum]

No stilletos, even at the weekend.

And certainly not the Orange product.