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Title: Broken Keyfob Help needed
Post by: 2camjohn on 06 November 2010, 17:37:38
Hi Guys

Sorry if this has been posted before. I searched but couldnt find anything.

The Keyfob on my X reg Omega CDX (2.5 6 cylinder turbo diesel) has been a bit unreliable recently.
So I gave it to a friend to fix and he broke the little circuit board inside completely  >:(


I understand its over £100 to get a new key from vauhall. Is that my only option? Or is there some way I can replace it for cheaper.

Ive set the alarm on silent so I can still use the car for now but the sidelights still flash. Is there any way I can stop that?

Cheers guys.
Hope someone can help me in my hour of need.
John
Title: Re: Broken Keyfob Help needed
Post by: TheBoy on 06 November 2010, 17:40:32
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Hi Guys

Sorry if this has been posted before. I searched but couldnt find anything.

The Keyfob on my X reg Omega CDX (2.5 6 cylinder turbo diesel) has been a bit unreliable recently.
So I gave it to a friend to fix and he broke the little circuit board inside completely  >:(


I understand its over £100 to get a new key from vauhall. Is that my only option? Or is there some way I can replace it for cheaper.

Ive set the alarm on silent so I can still use the car for now but the sidelights still flash. Is there any way I can stop that?

Cheers guys.
Hope someone can help me in my hour of need.
John
Facelift 3 button fob is £27 + VAT. If you are near http://theboy.omegaowners.com that is likely to be the cheapest programming around ;)

(I should add, in the spirit of fairness and openess, that link is to my site).
Title: Re: Broken Keyfob Help needed
Post by: Andy B on 06 November 2010, 17:42:09
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Ive set the alarm on silent so I can still use the car for now but the sidelights still flash.  ....

Hi. Welcome to the forum.  :y

Silent mode on the alarm  :-/ you mean you've unplugged the siren? Cos the alarm does/shouldn't have a silent mode.  ;)
Sidelights flashing, you mean indicators.  :-/
If you update you profile, it might be that there is someone local-ish to you that could programme you a new fob.
Title: Re: Broken Keyfob Help needed
Post by: feeutfo on 06 November 2010, 18:18:28
Get fob only from dealers parts dept. ...do NOT go into the service dept, they will tell you its no good if not programmed. £35 new, get THE BOY to prog, via his site then fit your key blade and immobiliser chip to the new fob.

He did mine and others, saved a fortune.

For info, the case and buttons are available from gay bay as a kit for £15 odd. Buttons easily soldered in as a Kevin Wood showed me last week. But as your inards are broke it's dealers for you.

Key, car pass numbers, car, and tech 2 all need to be present for programming fob etc.

And welcome btw.  :y
Title: Re: Broken Keyfob Help needed
Post by: 2camjohn on 06 November 2010, 20:50:27
Wow thanks for all the replies and welcomes. Lots of options already  :D


The key part is fine but the circuit board with the buttons on it is totally broken and the case has seen better days.

So its £35 + £20 to program it. Thats A lot more like what I want to spend.   :)

Im in Manchester so I guess that TheBoy is quite far away.
Anyone close to me I can try?
Title: Re: Broken Keyfob Help needed
Post by: Andy B on 06 November 2010, 21:15:04
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Wow thanks for all the replies and welcomes. Lots of options already  :D


The key part is fine but the circuit board with the buttons on it is totally broken and the case has seen better days.

So its £35 + £20 to program it. Thats A lot more like what I want to spend.   :)

Im in Manchester so I guess that TheBoy is quite far away.
Anyone close to me I can try?

Sorry. I know that the bloke from Polar Air Con http://www.polar-aircon.co.uk/  has a real Tech II ..... whether he can use it  ::) No idea of his prices I only know he has it cos he's done a/c on my car & I spotted it in his van.

Title: Re: Broken Keyfob Help needed
Post by: chrism551 on 06 November 2010, 22:55:20
how do you go on if you dont have the pass numbers for the car
Title: Re: Broken Keyfob Help needed
Post by: Andy B on 06 November 2010, 23:18:51
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how do you go on if you dont have the pass numbers for the car

then you need to buy a Car Pass from your local friendly dealer. They cost anything from around £25 to £silly
Title: Re: Broken Keyfob Help needed
Post by: Martin_1962 on 07 November 2010, 14:08:24
How is it broken inside - post a picture
Title: Re: Broken Keyfob Help needed
Post by: TheBoy on 07 November 2010, 21:05:11
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Get fob only from dealers parts dept. ...do NOT go into the service dept, they will tell you its no good if not programmed. £35 new, get THE BOY to prog, via his site then fit your key blade and immobiliser chip to the new fob.

He did mine and others, saved a fortune.

For info, the case and buttons are available from gay bay as a kit for £15 odd. Buttons easily soldered in as a Kevin Wood showed me last week. But as your inards are broke it's dealers for you.

Key, car pass numbers, car, and tech 2 all need to be present for programming fob etc.

And welcome btw.  :y
Only the silly arse put the cheap switches in his, and the more expensive ones in Monkey-Nuts fob.  Hope they give you an extra pickle tray next time you visit ;D ;D
Title: Re: Broken Keyfob Help needed
Post by: 2camjohn on 08 November 2010, 14:57:23
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How is it broken inside - post a picture

Plated holes ripped out of the board.
About 9 tracks peeled off.

Its very broken.

Title: Re: Broken Keyfob Help needed
Post by: 2camjohn on 08 November 2010, 14:58:00
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Wow thanks for all the replies and welcomes. Lots of options already  :D


The key part is fine but the circuit board with the buttons on it is totally broken and the case has seen better days.

So its £35 + £20 to program it. Thats A lot more like what I want to spend.   :)

Im in Manchester so I guess that TheBoy is quite far away.
Anyone close to me I can try?

Sorry. I know that the bloke from Polar Air Con http://www.polar-aircon.co.uk/  has a real Tech II ..... whether he can use it  ::) No idea of his prices I only know he has it cos he's done a/c on my car & I spotted it in his van.



Thanks Ill give him a try.


Any other recommendations?
Title: Re: Broken Keyfob Help needed
Post by: Kevin Wood on 08 November 2010, 15:22:39
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Only the silly arse put the cheap switches in his, and the more expensive ones in Monkey-Nuts fob.  Hope they give you an extra pickle tray next time you visit ;D ;D

How else can the cheap ones be adequately tested than being on my err... spare... er.. fob that sits in a drawer.... Anyway, moving swiftly on... ::)

Kevin
Title: Re: Broken Keyfob Help needed
Post by: Dave Elite on 08 November 2010, 15:30:24
Where can you buy the switches from?
Title: Re: Broken Keyfob Help needed
Post by: unlucky mark mv6 on 08 November 2010, 22:38:43
While we are on the subject of key fobs,i have to press mine really hard most of the time to get it to work properly.Is there an easy fix for this at all. :-/
Title: Re: Broken Keyfob Help needed
Post by: Entwood on 08 November 2010, 22:40:24
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While we are on the subject of key fobs,i have to press mine really hard most of the time to get it to work properly.Is there an easy fix for this at all. :-/

Send it to Martin Imber and let him work his magic on it ....  around a tenner I believe ... drop him a PM .. :)
Title: Re: Broken Keyfob Help needed
Post by: unlucky mark mv6 on 08 November 2010, 22:43:22
Was thinking of doing that,but as i am a tight git :D,i just thought i would try and fix it myself first. :y
Title: Re: Broken Keyfob Help needed
Post by: Dave Elite on 08 November 2010, 22:57:12
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While we are on the subject of key fobs,i have to press mine really hard most of the time to get it to work properly.Is there an easy fix for this at all. :-/

Send it to Martin Imber and let him work his magic on it ....  around a tenner I believe ... drop him a PM .. :)
I cant see anything magic about what he does... just my opinion... nowt else... ... ... ... ... ... ... :)...
Title: Re: Broken Keyfob Help needed
Post by: Martin_1962 on 10 November 2010, 13:15:12
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Was thinking of doing that,but as i am a tight git :D,i just thought i would try and fix it myself first. :y


Well the minimum order of switches is 10 and postage from RS - you are looking at about £10 for the parts.
Title: Re: Broken Keyfob Help needed
Post by: Martin_1962 on 10 November 2010, 13:16:14
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While we are on the subject of key fobs,i have to press mine really hard most of the time to get it to work properly.Is there an easy fix for this at all. :-/

Send it to Martin Imber and let him work his magic on it ....  around a tenner I believe ... drop him a PM .. :)
I cant see anything magic about what he does... just my opinion... nowt else... ... ... ... ... ... ... :)...


Just good with a soldering iron, use modelling skills to repair some damage, and I have excellent close up vision.
Title: Re: Broken Keyfob Help needed
Post by: PhilRich on 10 November 2010, 13:21:25
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While we are on the subject of key fobs,i have to press mine really hard most of the time to get it to work properly.Is there an easy fix for this at all. :-/

Send it to Martin Imber and let him work his magic on it ....  around a tenner I believe ... drop him a PM .. :)
I cant see anything magic about what he does... just my opinion... nowt else... ... ... ... ... ... ... :)...


Just good with a soldering iron, use modelling skills to repair some damage, and I have excellent close up vision.








So do I Martin, it's anything further than the end of my nose I have trouble with  :D ;D
Title: Re: Broken Keyfob Help needed
Post by: 2camjohn on 10 November 2010, 14:46:27
Thanks guys.

Its £65 (incl VAT) to get the key programmed from polar aircon.
Thats including callout fee.

Im not complaining but that brings the total price (incl new blank key) back to around £100 which is competing with Vauxhalls service department.

Can anyone think of other alternatives?
Title: Re: Broken Keyfob Help needed
Post by: Kevin Wood on 10 November 2010, 15:34:24
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Thanks guys.

Its £65 (incl VAT) to get the key programmed from polar aircon.
Thats including callout fee.

Im not complaining but that brings the total price (incl new blank key) back to around £100 which is competing with Vauxhalls service department.

Can anyone think of other alternatives?

Your cheapest option, if the fob is truly beyond repair, would be to source a new / 2nd hand one and get it programmed by one of our Tech 2 custodians.

2nd hand runs the risk of an incompatible fob unless you can compare the circuit boards and determine that they are identical. New ones are about £30 odd from a dealer excluding programming, IIRC. See the link at the bottom of my post for Tech 2 prices and locations. :y

Kevin
Title: Re: Broken Keyfob Help needed
Post by: djac on 10 November 2010, 15:58:52
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Thanks guys.

Its £65 (incl VAT) to get the key programmed from polar aircon.
Thats including callout fee.

Im not complaining but that brings the total price (incl new blank key) back to around £100 which is competing with Vauxhalls service department.

Can anyone think of other alternatives?

Thought it was just the fob that was fubar'd?  :-/
Title: Re: Broken Keyfob Help needed
Post by: Martin_1962 on 10 November 2010, 19:54:14
Put a photo on here of it - you never know - it MIGHT be repairable.

I have had to replace tracks with wire before