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[Ddraigcymro]

I supose im not really looking for an answer but just having a litle rant/mone, so here I go. After owning my mig tractor with the infomus BMW flat 6 td for a few weeks I can not for the life of me understand how we as omiga owners have so much problems with there engine, when I speek to the bema owners and some in the trade they all say exactly the same, or evan askes the same, what on earth did vx do to this lump/ or ecu to cause this, only mig owners complane about ijector no 4 as I understand (obviasly I not spoke to evry BWM owner) ok I understand they down powerd it for the autos(for the gearbox not to end up in the grate scrapyard in the ind est). Is it all vx fault or are we to blame for driving it to soft(or previas owner).
When this ton 3/4 car is running sweet I will probably forget the problems and cary on regardles unles sombody makes me a grate offer before the problems rectified then im stuck with it and all the greas and oil before im off to another macheane, well summers on its way and screemer can get put back together with new piston and rings, kids will have to do a piramid on back for our day trips

[tunnie]

de-tuned it, at request of BMW. They did not want their lump at full performance. Chipped they are back to what they should be.

[mathewst]

I think the problem is the Beemer owners complain less but probably have the same amount of problems as Vx owners.
Imagine how stupid a bunch of  people would look if they complained aa lot for something that costed a lot more than the Vx and breaks down the same

[Kevin Wood]

Beemer owners, on the whole, probably just take it to a stealer with a pot of Vaseline a the slightest hint of a problem.

Add to that the fact that BMWs generally don't warn their drivers of problems via the EML, and fault codes are probably just silently corrected and added to the bill at service time.

That's if they don't end up on the back of a recovery truck, of course, where so many BMWs are visible these days. That's what I call an ultimate driving machine! Getting home while burning someone else's diesel.

Kevin

[Elite Pete]

de-tuned it, at request of BMW. They did not want their lump at full performance. Chipped they are back to what they should be.

I thought it was de tuned so the autobox could cope a little better

[tunnie]

de-tuned it, at request of BMW. They did not want their lump at full performance. Chipped they are back to what they should be.

I thought it was de tuned so the autobox could cope a little better

Could have stuck AR35 in from new, but as ever Vx doing it on the cheap

[Amigo]

V6 petrol. Smoother, faster, cheaper in the long run...
   + ALL diesel engines sound sh*te. Sorry but they do.

[Amigo]

de-tuned it, at request of BMW. They did not want their lump at full performance. Chipped they are back to what they should be.

I thought it was de tuned so the autobox could cope a little better

Could have stuck AR35 in from new, but as ever Vx doing it on the cheap

I've heard Vx used the ar25 as appose to the ar35. Shame as it's left diesel/auto Mig fans with an underpowered ropey engine & a slush box that still is'nt up to the job. At least you don't have cambelt changes to worry about!

[ians]

Beemer owners, on the whole, probably just take it to a stealer with a pot of Vaseline a the slightest hint of a problem.

Add to that the fact that BMWs generally don't warn their drivers of problems via the EML, and fault codes are probably just silently corrected and added to the bill at service time.

That's if they don't end up on the back of a recovery truck, of course, where so many BMWs are visible these days. That's what I call an ultimate driving machine! Getting home while burning someone else's diesel.

Kevin

I thought the Vaseline was on the beemer 'options' list..

[TheBoy]

The unit is equally problematic in the BMW 525tds and the Range Rover 2.5D.

The engine is flawed. Fundamentally flawed:

Max service interval = 4.5k miles

Diesels only become economically viable at approx 20+k miles per year.

Now, do you expect owners get them serviced every 10 weeks (assuming 20k per year), monthly (just over 40k/yr), or annually

[TheBoy]

The unit is equally problematic in the BMW 525tds and the Range Rover 2.5D.

The engine is flawed. Fundamentally flawed:

Max service interval = 4.5k miles

Diesels only become economically viable at approx 20+k miles per year.

Now, do you expect owners get them serviced every 10 weeks (assuming 20k per year), monthly (just over 40k/yr), or annually

Add to that, virtually every single Vauxhall servicing centre is utter shite.

[MickAP]

In 3 years mine has broken down once.
Well it never started in the first place to breakdown, if you know what I mean. No it was only the glow plugs that gave up.
And no way would I let them put it on the back of a breakdown truck, they got me going instead.
So very reliable so far, am I tempting fate .....no problems with the box, it's a manual.....and chipped

Mick

[MickAP]

The unit is equally problematic in the BMW 525tds and the Range Rover 2.5D.

The engine is flawed. Fundamentally flawed:

Max service interval = 4.5k miles

Diesels only become economically viable at approx 20+k miles per year.

Now, do you expect owners get them serviced every 10 weeks (assuming 20k per year), monthly (just over 40k/yr), or annually

Add to that, virtually every single Vauxhall servicing centre is utter shite.

I found that out more recently, they let me down on the saloon, I won't use em again now
Let the boys on here sought any problems from now on

Mick

[Amigo]

The unit is equally problematic in the BMW 525tds and the Range Rover 2.5D.

The engine is flawed. Fundamentally flawed:

Max service interval = 4.5k miles

Diesels only become economically viable at approx 20+k miles per year.

Now, do you expect owners get them serviced every 10 weeks (assuming 20k per year), monthly (just over 40k/yr), or annually

Add to that, virtually every single Vauxhall servicing centre is utter shite.

I found that out more recently, they let me down on the saloon, I won't use em again now
Let the boys on here sought any problems from now on

Mick

Precisely. On my 2nd Mig now & all work is done by trusted friends or folk on here. Allways a better more caring & thorough job at a fraction of the price of a stealership.

[Ddraigcymro]

Well I started this thred, my mood at the time we could say was gloomy(if thers such word). Yhe coments added made me  .

I have spent a good part of today under the bonet coverd in oil. Thanks to the EGR and the fans and also not forgeting the wind that travels through the engine bay blowing all the oil back to cover evrything on that side. Thought I would do quick plug change at the small cost of meal for two. This not only explaned the problem to me but jumped out almoste to bite me. Shody workmanship combined with years of neglect and abuse.
Sevral problems I got with the car work that previasly been undertaken on the engine such as, two of the rear glow plugs wernt evan conected, a nut was missing from the air in take manifolde and another was only just coneced by 3/4 of a tur on to the thred. Well easy fix then. As for whot I saw as niglect was the state of the breather pipe`s as they were hanging on by threds. Ok now im as bad as the last now almoste as I did not replace all the broken piping/tubes just trimed and made a tight fit.

So could it be that the 2.5 td`s problem in the omega as a whole is that thers so much under the bonet that it made working on it to time consuming or dificalt for the avrage grease monky? :-/