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Re: nhs and boobies and dodgy foriegn implants
« Reply #15 on: 10 January 2012, 19:29:55 »

Any woman having them replaced at our expense should have to walk with them out so we can all enjoy them. :D :D ;D


 ;D ;D ;D ;D  ;D  Outstanding ;D ;D :y
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« Reply #16 on: 10 January 2012, 19:32:25 »



//...........I have seen the effects of a burst implant and it's pretty grisly with one woman losing most of the muscle in her chest/armpit..But....

Private op= your choice=your problem, we shouldn't pay for replacement

Yes, I think that's a fair enough comment Ome. :y
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« Reply #17 on: 10 January 2012, 19:56:26 »

Ah, but where does 'your choice, you pay' stop, when it comes to the NHS?

Obesity work? That's their own fault, right?
Alcoholism? That was their own fault, right?
What about the driver in a vehicle accident? It was their choice to drive...
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Re: nhs and boobies and dodgy foriegn implants
« Reply #18 on: 10 January 2012, 20:57:13 »

Ah, but where does 'your choice, you pay' stop, when it comes to the NHS?

Obesity work? That's their own fault, right?
Alcoholism? That was their own fault, right?
What about the driver in a vehicle accident? It was their choice to drive...

That's why there should be a charter between Government and the Electorate on what the NHS does and doesn't cover. If you knew that private clinic implants wearnt covered on the NHS then private insurance could be taken out to cover future treatment.

The advertising slogan could be along the lines of: "They can't be trusted to not be busted, can't afford a hit on that artificial tit, a leaking one is such a drag, along with the unsightly, uneven sag, what you need is the twin peaks uplifting insurance cover, every quote personally measured to fit to your exact requirements".  ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #19 on: 10 January 2012, 21:13:11 »

 ;D @ "twin peaks uplifting insurance cover" :y
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Re: nhs and boobies and dodgy foriegn implants
« Reply #20 on: 11 January 2012, 00:04:17 »

The government should be taking a tough line with these private cosmetic surgery clinics and forcing them to replace all the dodgy implants that they have sold over the years at a tidy profit!!  It's probably more a case for Trading Standards than the NHS as these clinics have supplied a product that is not fit for purpose, and thus have a duty of care to their customers...

I guess the problem lies where clinics have gone bust (no pun intended!  ;D)/disapeered etc and that's where the NHS will step in...  ::)

Where the implants were supplied and fitted by the NHS for whatever reason then the duty of care lies with the NHS, and the NHS should act accordingly!

The response to this by the government has of course been woeful!  ::)
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Re: nhs and boobies and dodgy foriegn implants
« Reply #21 on: 11 January 2012, 00:13:41 »

I cant see that they have implants to please men. Ive yet to meet a man who finds fake boobs remotely attractive.
Personally,I dont have a hell of a lot of sympathy for women who mutilate their natural bodies for reasons of misplaced vanity.
Goes without saying - women who have had reconstruction after surgery etc. is a different thing altogether.

Come on Albs, they're fantastic.

I perfer natural but after a trip to Poland a few years ago after reading about fake I think they'd still be fun  :y
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Re: nhs and boobies and dodgy foriegn implants
« Reply #22 on: 11 January 2012, 08:57:04 »

The government should be taking a tough line with these private cosmetic surgery clinics and forcing them to replace all the dodgy implants that they have sold over the years at a tidy profit!!  It's probably more a case for Trading Standards than the NHS as these clinics have supplied a product that is not fit for purpose, and thus have a duty of care to their customers...

I guess the problem lies where clinics have gone bust (no pun intended!  ;D)/disapeered etc and that's where the NHS will step in...  ::)

Where the implants were supplied and fitted by the NHS for whatever reason then the duty of care lies with the NHS, and the NHS should act accordingly!

The response to this by the government has of course been woeful!  ::)

I think they have acted pretty well on this one to be honest, they have committed to sorting out any NHS ones and are actively encouraging the private outfits to support thier patients.

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« Reply #23 on: 11 January 2012, 09:55:57 »

I think that the hype over the NHS paying is mis-placed.  The implants were purchased and fitted on the assumption that they were legal and conformed to safety standards.  Now it is proven that they were misled the normal recourse would be to the manufacturer but that avenue is closed.

If you think that this is a vanity issue and they have themselves to blame then how different is it to a hyperthetical yet not implausable situation where:

- a woman using a face cream that turns out to be acid, or
- a man who uses a razor which, unbeknowst to him, is faulty and cuts his face badly

both getting treatment on the NHS?  They would both have used a product in the beleif that they were safe and legal.

This is not a situation of vanity, this is a serious health protection issue with severe consequences should they burst both being removed.
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« Reply #24 on: 11 January 2012, 19:17:43 »

....If you think that this is a vanity issue and they have themselves to blame then how different is it to a hyperthetical yet not implausable situation where:

- a woman using a face cream that turns out to be acid, or
- a man who uses a razor which, unbeknowst to him, is faulty and cuts his face badly

both getting treatment on the NHS?  They would both have used a product in the beleif that they were safe and legal.

This is not a situation of vanity, this is a serious health protection issue with severe consequences should they burst both being removed.


We have developed into a generation of ambulance chasers, much akin to the US model of 15 to 20 years ago.

If theres blame, theres a claim....   ::)  ::)  ::)

But, to an extent, I agree but - how far do you persue the original manufacturers?

The firm has gone down and thus no longer liable.

Initial product was in complience with spec but a hungry owner decided to use cheaper materials.  Sue him?

The french have already rolled over and decided to carry out remedial operations - why not claim against them?  It is/was a french firm...

The surgeons in the UK who did the work with duff implants - sue them?

Why should the already groaning at the seams NHS have to carry out the rearguard action?  Yes, potential health issue - if they burst - but meantime, surely the recipient must have an alternate avenue to persue??
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« Reply #25 on: 11 January 2012, 19:27:49 »

Perhaps the NHS should replace them,but the recipients have to pay the same as they pay to have them put in ?
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