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[YZ250]

Hi All,
I have searched the whole electrical section but with no direct answer to my problem so apologies if I've missed it.
I fitted a Nokia CK-7W H/F kit to my 2003 3.2 Elite NCDC 2013 radio some time ago but could never get the radio to mute so that car speakers could be used & to display 'Phone'. I connected via the 18 pin phone pre-wiring VDA plug behind glove box using Autolead 06-109B due to the Bose as advised by Autoleads & Terry at Sio Communications ( before things went pear shaped for him ). The ignition live/constant live and earth are fine so I still use the 18 pin plug but have had to fit the Nokia speaker. I have always used the Nokia mic so this is not an issue. I have seperated the VDA plug from its holder in the past to check that the wires correspond to the kit & they all appear OK. The yellow mute wire from H/F kit comes out of the VDA plug to radio as black as it should but I don't know where it goes from there as I have not yet removed NCDC 2013. The car has not been modded as I have had it from almost new & knew the previous owner. After another chat with Autoleads technical guys they suggested buying relay 06-100B but I have nowhere to fit it. There is no relay space under steering column relay board/ behind fuse board under dash or behind the glove box. I do not have Traffic Master so don't see this as an issue. The phone works fine as it is with me manually turning the radio down but the snob in me (and a comment from 'The Boy' in a previous post refering to crappy Nokia speaker as fitted by lazy fitters) wants it to work properly. The phone is a Nokia 6230i (old I know but it has voice dial) & sits in correct Nokia cradle. This is starting to bug me now along with the fact that Mrs YZ250 keeps kicking the Nokia speaker when she moves her feet around in the passenger footwell. The Sat Nav mutes the radio fine so I was hoping to pick the brains of you guys and gals on this great Forum before I decide to pull out the NCDC 2013 to investigate further or just leave it as it is. Is there a 'safe' way of testing radio mute when I am only armed with a 12V bulb style pin tester? I assume that the mute line is pulled to 'ground' during a call but my radio will not do that so it is the car at fault, not the kit.
Any guidance much appreciated.

[VXL V6]

I had a NCDC2013 unit that the mute line refused to work on, never did sort it out (TB and I use it for spares now).

[Dave DND]

Not sure on this system, but not all stereos will mute with a +12V signal

Some older stereos use a Negative signal and you may need a relay in line to give this voltage if your phone kit does not have the capability of changing it.

 :-/

[TheBoy]

I have a similar setup.

Not sure Autoleads entirely understand the bose setup in Omegas

As VXL-V6 says, we have seen one that won't mute.



However, I suspect a more fundamental lack of wiring in this case. Do you have traffic master? 

[YZ250]

Blimey, that was quick. Do you guys not have jobs or are you stealing a look at the Forum while at work? 
I work shifts myself so thats my excuse.
Many thanks for the quick replies. Looks like my persistance has been wasted if the mute won't kick in. I will have to use the kit in poor mans mode as usual from now on then. At least I know there are 'issues' with this so I will call it a day as I don't want to 'pop' anything in the radio.

TB.
No Traffic Master on this car so looks like I dipped out on that as well.

Regards

[TheBoy]

Worth checking that it doesn't have the TM loom in - some are NOT fully wired.

Failing that, feel free to pop in if you're passing, I'll happily have a little gander at it.

[YZ250]

Worth checking that it doesn't have the TM loom in - some are NOT fully wired.

Failing that, feel free to pop in if you're passing, I'll happily have a little gander at it.

Thanks for that.
As I won't know what to look for myself I had better leave it until someone like yourself or another suitably qualified member crosses my path (and then I can cross their palm with silver, so to speak). Maximum respect to you guys who aren't afraid to rip things apart. I'm a mechanical engineer but when it comes to my car I am a little bit 'cautious' about disrupting things.

Regards

[TheBoy]

Worth checking that it doesn't have the TM loom in - some are NOT fully wired.

Failing that, feel free to pop in if you're passing, I'll happily have a little gander at it.

Thanks for that.
As I won't know what to look for myself I had better leave it until someone like yourself or another suitably qualified member crosses my path (and then I can cross their palm with silver, so to speak). Maximum respect to you guys who aren't afraid to rip things apart. I'm a mechanical engineer but when it comes to my car I am a little bit 'cautious' about disrupting things.

Regards

Thame is only around 20 miles from here (I'm about 6m the other side of Bicester), so the offer is always there

[Weds]

The mute on my 2013 was always very temperamental, gave up on the CK-7W in the end and bought a separate bluetooth unit that clips onto the sunvisor.