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SECURITY WHEEL BOLT
« on: 17 August 2010, 14:23:26 »
Hi all.

I've just noticed that the part for removing the security bolts on the wheels is missing, so I have no way of changing the wheel if I get a punture (only bought car 2 weeks ago).

I'm going to source another one but I don't know exactly what it is that I am looking for   :-?

Is it just a bolt that fits onto the end of the wrench which you then use as normal or is it some sort of special key?

I'd like to know before I ring around asking for one so I don't sound like a complete tit on the phone  ::)

Thankyou in advance

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Re: SECURITY WHEEL BOLT
« Reply #1 on: 17 August 2010, 14:39:55 »
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Hi all.

I've just noticed that the part for removing the security bolts on the wheels is missing, so I have no way of changing the wheel if I get a punture (only bought car 2 weeks ago).

I'm going to source another one but I don't know exactly what it is that I am looking for   :-?

Is it just a bolt that fits onto the end of the wrench which you then use as normal or is it some sort of special key?

I'd like to know before I ring around asking for one so I don't sound like a complete tit on the phone  ::)

Thankyou in advance

FUDGEE
Yep. Pop into a friendly tyre fitting outlet they should be able to remove them. Then replace with standard bolts, the security ones are shite
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Re: SECURITY WHEEL BOLT
« Reply #2 on: 17 August 2010, 14:43:51 »
Are they really awkward to remove then rob?
The previous owner kept the original bolts thankfully so I won't need to buy new ones.

You made me laugh out loud by the way mate,  your reply was very to the point  ;D ;D
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Re: SECURITY WHEEL BOLT
« Reply #3 on: 17 August 2010, 14:59:43 »
If you want locking nuts (though can`t see Omega wheels being a target :P) get a decent set that aren`t shite :y
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Re: SECURITY WHEEL BOLT
« Reply #4 on: 17 August 2010, 15:21:14 »
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If you want locking nuts (though can`t see Omega wheels being a target :P) get a decent set that aren`t shite :y


Depends on scrap value, and the size of tyres on a thieves car. :-/
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Re: SECURITY WHEEL BOLT
« Reply #5 on: 17 August 2010, 16:10:15 »
They are a nightmare i sat on the side of the A13 after a blow out a couple of weeks ago and it took me about 45 minutes to get the bastard thing off. It didnt help i had a tyre bar about as big as a cocktail stick. First thing i done when i got home was take them all off stupid things.
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Re: SECURITY WHEEL BOLT
« Reply #6 on: 17 August 2010, 16:59:51 »
I must admit I don't tighten the security studs as tight as the others, I also use a bit of coperslip on them. I do have a set of decent ones somewhere if you need some. (Price to follow when I find them I.A.W. the new rules)
I would have a good scout round first though, it may be in the glovebox or wheel well.
« Last Edit: 17 August 2010, 17:01:04 by Agemo »
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Re: SECURITY WHEEL BOLT
« Reply #7 on: 17 August 2010, 17:18:25 »
As per Agemo.

Have a good look around for the key. It might be in with the tools in the boot or in spare wheel well, in a door pocket.

I hate the locking nuts with a vengeance after Kwik fit sheered my tool the day before I left for the continent. It isn't even as simple as using someone elses as the VX three prong affairs have different offsets depending on the part number. Since then the only person who has taken off or refitted mine are me. Copper slip and I carry a torque wrench in the car. A bit OTT  I even wrote and complained to VX about their rubbish product. Not interested.
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Re: SECURITY WHEEL BOLT
« Reply #8 on: 17 August 2010, 17:19:27 »
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 and it took me about 45 minutes to get the blank thing off. ..... .

the chrome/stainless hex cover? it should have it's very own removal tool.

After Kwik-Fit broke one of the prongs off my wheel stud removal tool too, I've never had problems with the later 'cake cutter' type ......



waits for Tunnie et all to chip in with their tales of woe!   ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)
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Re: SECURITY WHEEL BOLT
« Reply #9 on: 17 August 2010, 19:51:41 »
It may be worth contacting the previous owner if you can't find the wheel nut key in the vehicle. Also, if you have the case that the set came in you may find the slip of paper with the key code printed on it, a Vx dealer can supply a new key from this number...

Standard Vx ones don't take much effort to remove providing they haven't been put on very tight, and you don't value your tools...
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Re: SECURITY WHEEL BOLT
« Reply #10 on: 17 August 2010, 20:01:56 »
Sounds like they are more trouble then their worth, it makes you feel better knowing that they are on there but the odds of someone stealing your wheels is relatively slim ( make sure you check this thread in a weeks time for my new post saying how my wheels have been nicked )

The strange thing is the previous owner kept just about everything else apart from the key.

The warning triangle in its original box , car jack , wrench..towing eye..and screwdriver all present in the original leather carrrying case, spare wheel with brand new tyre thats never been used, even kept the original plastic box that the security bolts came in.

He put the 4 replaced wheel bolts in there, just not the bloody key  ::)

All old reciepts and M.O.T.S, manuals.....the lot.

Have checked every nook and cranny and its definatly not there.
Taking into account what some of you fine gentlemen have said about the key my guess would be that it got broken when removing the bolts one time and he threw it away.

Still not sure whether to get them taken off and make do or to get a top quality set that won't give me any problems.
I'll have to do one of those two things as the ones that are on there look original so I guess that means their a headache just waiting to happen  :D :D
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Re: SECURITY WHEEL BOLT
« Reply #11 on: 17 August 2010, 20:02:31 »
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Standard Vx ones don't take much effort to remove...

3 pin or cake cutter  ::) ;)
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Re: SECURITY WHEEL BOLT
« Reply #12 on: 17 August 2010, 20:06:05 »
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Still not sure whether to get them taken off and  ....

you'll need one of these then! http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/locking-wheel-nut-remover-2pc  :y  :y  :y
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Re: SECURITY WHEEL BOLT
« Reply #13 on: 17 August 2010, 20:09:55 »
Fudgee, PM on it's way ;)
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Re: SECURITY WHEEL BOLT
« Reply #14 on: 17 August 2010, 20:16:14 »
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Standard Vx ones don't take much effort to remove...

3 pin or cake cutter  ::) ;)

My Omega came with the 'cake cutter' type (I think, never heard that term before!). I managed to get them off no trouble, once I'd gotten hold of my Mates vice...
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Re: SECURITY WHEEL BOLT
« Reply #15 on: 17 August 2010, 20:23:40 »
I've never really had a problem with removing the locking bolts.
Key thing is not to tighten them too much, which is difficult when you've had them done up by a garage airgun.
Also best to have the wrench on square when removing them, that's were the problems lie, and knackering the thing up. :-/

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Re: SECURITY WHEEL BOLT
« Reply #16 on: 17 August 2010, 20:24:27 »
Cake cutter type:-



Pin type:-

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Re: SECURITY WHEEL BOLT
« Reply #17 on: 17 August 2010, 20:27:02 »
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My Omega came with the 'cake cutter' type  ....

Given the age of your car (same as mine) they weren't the originals.  ;)
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Re: SECURITY WHEEL BOLT
« Reply #18 on: 17 August 2010, 22:59:52 »
I'm sure they were original, I can find one out if required...
I had the same type on my old Vectra CDX, similar to the sort pictured above but without the lip on them.

The three pin type were useless, the keys seemed to be made of toffee.
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Re: SECURITY WHEEL BOLT
« Reply #19 on: 17 August 2010, 23:02:50 »
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I'm sure they were original, I can find one out if required...
I had the same type on my old Vectra CDX, similar to the sort pictured above but without the lip on them.

The three pin type were useless, the keys seemed to be made of toffee.

Just going off what my 99 car was fitted with. I bought it at about 4 yr old with 3 prong bolts, Kwik-Fit buggered one up & got cakecutters from Vx when I went to them for replacements.  ;)
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Re: SECURITY WHEEL BOLT
« Reply #20 on: 17 August 2010, 23:07:04 »
The old 2.5 elite....   1999 version (V Reg) ... had cakecutters when I bought it .. :)
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« Reply #21 on: 17 August 2010, 23:08:15 »
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The old 2.5 elite....   1999 version (V Reg) ... had cakecutters when I bought it .. :)

so .... that's my theory out the window ........  :-/  :-/   :y  :y
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Re: SECURITY WHEEL BOLT
« Reply #22 on: 17 August 2010, 23:11:29 »
Mine (99 'T') has the crap 3pin type.  I only do them up tight enough so they wont fall out.

Useless things.  In fact, I have spare wheel bolts in the garage..... I might remove the 'lockers' tomorrow.

On the roadside, I've experienced sheer hell removing locking nuts.  In a workshop, there isn't a style of nut which cant be shifted!  :y
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Re: SECURITY WHEEL BOLT
« Reply #23 on: 17 August 2010, 23:36:53 »
So the three pin which i think is what i have is shite not the preferred type then :question
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Re: SECURITY WHEEL BOLT
« Reply #24 on: 18 August 2010, 11:22:16 »
when I came to change my tyres I could not find
my locking wheel nut adaptor in the usual places
door pockets/glove box/middle console.

mine was in the pocket by your right knee /below and right of  :ythe sterring wheel.

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