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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: TheBoy on 16 November 2014, 21:21:49
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IIRC, the GM one went a bit silly on price. Is it still the one to buy? Or have we found a suitable pattern one?
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Ouch.
3.0i 24v V6 - X30XE Description: - Part No: 93170697 Retail: £133.00 Trade: £95.35 Trade Club: £71.81 Wish list:
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Still on the original, at 117k
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Still on the original, at 117k
I *think* this one may be 80k - definitely changed with HG... ...although I vaguely recall changing it 3 or 4 years back, so might be newer.
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Get the SKF aux kit :y
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Get the SKF aux kit :y
That's the route I'm taking. :y
Mine is due a cambelt so I'll get the kit with the water pump in if I can.
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Get the SKF aux kit :y
kit?
I bought a water pump branded "SKF" (I thought they only made bearings) from egay, and never fitted it as it looked poor quality. I think I gave it to a member here a couple of years ago :-\
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Try here :y
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GM-OEM-Engine-Water-Pump-55352002-/261615896453?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3ce985c785&vxp=mtr
And before you grumble...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Vauxhall-Signum-02-08-Vectra-2-5-3-2-V6-95-08-X30XE-Water-Pump-93170697-/121034454033?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1c2e373411 :o
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Try here :y
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GM-OEM-Engine-Water-Pump-55352002-/261615896453?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3ce985c785&vxp=mtr
And before you grumble...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Vauxhall-Signum-02-08-Vectra-2-5-3-2-V6-95-08-X30XE-Water-Pump-93170697-/121034454033?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1c2e373411 :o
Errr, not ebay please. I've bought genuine GM waterpumps from egay before. Never fitted, as it was just a cheap pattern part of dubious quality. I gave that one away as well ;D
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Put a QH one on the 2.5 and all good so far even though it had a plastic impeller :y
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Get the SKF aux kit :y
That's the route I'm taking. :y
Mine is due a cambelt so I'll get the kit with the water pump in if I can.
I thought you only needed to change the water pump, when you do the belt, on a 4 pot....... :-\ :-\
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V6 is preventative :y
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V6 is preventative :y
but unnecessary ;)
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V6 is preventative :y
but unnecessary ;)
Perhaps :-\
I replaced mine at 160k and will change it again at 320k :y
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I replaced mine at 160k and will change it again at 320k :y
OEM or pattern? ??? ;)
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Believe QH ones still obtainable - around £35 - try motor factors Jaime ;)
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I replaced mine at 160k and will change it again at 320k :y
OEM or pattern? ??? ;)
Genuine VX :y
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Put a QH one on the 2.5 and all good so far even though it had a plastic impeller :y
Since they went bust, and are just now a trading name of someone else, the quality of some of their components have taken a nosedive. Whats the waterpump like?
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V6 is preventative :y
but unnecessary ;)
It probably is. I didn't change this one last year (which was the 2nd cambelt since changing) thinking it should be OK, but obviously its failed now.
Obviously not every one will fail, but it seems they are rare to fail before 80k, and far more likely after. Understandably I guess.
I'm sure some will last the life of the car. I'm sure some cambelts and tensioners would as well, but the more you use them, the more likely they will fail.
Difficult one to recommend.
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I seem to recall that euro crap parts sell the KWP water pumps which are good with metal impellers.
Its long been a suspicion of mine that they are one of the OE suppliers to Vx for these parts.
http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Vauxhall_Vectra_3.2_2007/p/car-parts/car-cooling-parts-and-car-heating/cooling/water-pump-gasket/?201880045&1&bc146f3ead2455566bebcfa86a35c76eeb189239&000366
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If it's of any interest relating to pattern parts from ECP....
I purchased a new stat with housing and seal. It had the GM ground off and the part numbers matched the removed OE one.
The make was Wahler.
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Get the SKF aux kit :y
That's the route I'm taking. :y
Mine is due a cambelt so I'll get the kit with the water pump in if I can.
I thought you only needed to change the water pump, when you do the belt, on a 4 pot....... :-\ :-\
Correct, but as Al said, preventative. Mine's at 79K and I do less than 4K a year in that car so I figure that I may as well change the pump when I do the belt. :y I certainly didn't bother when I did the first belt at 40K. :y
The decision to change it now may backfire on me but that's an unknown at the moment. :-\
I seem to recall that euro crap parts sell the KWP water pumps which are good with metal impellers.
Its long been a suspicion of mine that they are one of the OE suppliers to Vx for these parts.
http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Vauxhall_Vectra_3.2_2007/p/car-parts/car-cooling-parts-and-car-heating/cooling/water-pump-gasket/?201880045&1&bc146f3ead2455566bebcfa86a35c76eeb189239&000366
Interesting. :y
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Fitted a Febi Bilstein one to mine about 2 yrs back with belt change still going strong done about 15K now think it came from Vauxworld :y
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V6 is preventative :y
but unnecessary ;)
When I popped the belt off mine it was wobbling around all over the place - I did manage to do it with the Cambelt cover in place though (carefully!) :y
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Is it fair to say its best to remove cambelt, rather than soak it in GM's finest coolant?
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Put a QH one on the 2.5 and all good so far even though it had a plastic impeller :y
Since they went bust, and are just now a trading name of someone else, the quality of some of their components have taken a nosedive. Whats the waterpump like?
It seemed good to be honest - only reservation was the plastic impella, but looking around I notice a lot of water pump seem to have gone that way. Its certainly working well at this time and for the price and given its a quick easy change I'm happy.
I'll dig out some pictures.
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Is it fair to say its best to remove cambelt, rather than soak it in GM's finest coolant?
The pump had sprung a signifgant leak at the time so was too late for that - advise here seemed to be rinse well with clean water and move on. So far, so good although if the belt snaps I'll regret it clearly!
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V6 is preventative :y
but unnecessary ;)
It probably is. I didn't change this one last year (which was the 2nd cambelt since changing) thinking it should be OK, but obviously its failed now.
Obviously not every one will fail, but it seems they are rare to fail before 80k, and far more likely after. Understandably I guess.
I'm sure some will last the life of the car. I'm sure some cambelts and tensioners would as well, but the more you use them, the more likely they will fail.
Difficult one to recommend.
Did mine with the full cam-belt kit at 80k. From memory it wasn't much more in price so figured better safe than sorry. Mind you, I do the cam-belt every 40k together with tensioners so I may be a little over cautious.
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Just found this.... not sure if it's genuine or not...it seems genuine, and too good to be true!!
http://www.genuinepartsearch.co.uk/vehicle-parts-special-offer.aspx?offerid=885f7c1b-8cd5-40f3-9777-b475a17e01d1
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Jamie, no need to remove the cambelt,coolant will not do it any harm.
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I seem to recall that euro crap parts sell the KWP water pumps which are good with metal impellers.
Its long been a suspicion of mine that they are one of the OE suppliers to Vx for these parts.
http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Vauxhall_Vectra_3.2_2007/p/car-parts/car-cooling-parts-and-car-heating/cooling/water-pump-gasket/?201880045&1&bc146f3ead2455566bebcfa86a35c76eeb189239&000366
I would suggest if that was the case, I wouldn't be scratching my head, wondering how I can cut down the pulley bolts with a blunt hacksaw and no vice ::)
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Think man!
A couple of washers under each bolt head will work just as well.
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I seem to recall that euro crap parts sell the KWP water pumps which are good with metal impellers.
Its long been a suspicion of mine that they are one of the OE suppliers to Vx for these parts.
http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Vauxhall_Vectra_3.2_2007/p/car-parts/car-cooling-parts-and-car-heating/cooling/water-pump-gasket/?201880045&1&bc146f3ead2455566bebcfa86a35c76eeb189239&000366
I would suggest if that was the case, I wouldn't be scratching my head, wondering how I can cut down the pulley bolts with a blunt hacksaw and no vice ::)
Cue the Bear to appear with his grinder ;D
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Think man!
A couple of washers under each bolt head will work just as well.
Washers melt. Or at least those that landed have.
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I seem to recall that euro crap parts sell the KWP water pumps which are good with metal impellers.
Its long been a suspicion of mine that they are one of the OE suppliers to Vx for these parts.
http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Vauxhall_Vectra_3.2_2007/p/car-parts/car-cooling-parts-and-car-heating/cooling/water-pump-gasket/?201880045&1&bc146f3ead2455566bebcfa86a35c76eeb189239&000366
I would suggest if that was the case, I wouldn't be scratching my head, wondering how I can cut down the pulley bolts with a blunt hacksaw and no vice ::)
Cue the Bear to appear with his grinder ;D
That's how I had to cut them, pair of molegrips and an angle grinder. Don't tell the H&S mob
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All the pumps with the thin flange where you have to cut bolts seem to fail early
I can get hold of genuine gm v6 pumps at £38 a pop at the mo
The circoli ones from Ecp etc also seem fine, thick flange metal impeller