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[Kevin Wood]

Off topic but i think everybody who rides a bike should do the cycling test,before allowed on the road or pavement. Also must have lights fitted and used when it dark.

Yes, and I think that off roaders should be restricted to tarmac roads or private ground set aside for the purpose of off road training, because they seem incapable of sticking to the very reasonable code of practice that alarming man provided, but I recognise that that's not how the world works. 

Most off roaders and cyclists coexist happily, but it's always the bad eggs who stand out and cause people to comment, isn't it? If your house is in order, why take offence?

[4x4]

I only ever go on pay and play days or organised green laning with the 4x4 forum who do stick to the guide lines, i have never gone off roading on anybodys land and never will,the northants logo at bottom of my signature will take you to the response team that i am a member,seems like so many negative but dont want to recognise what the responsible 4x4 owners actually do,have a read i dare you too,also 99% off equipment that response team members carry is paid for out of that persons pocket,1st aid kits,recovery/winching gear,we have training days where we are working along police,fire,ambulance,doctors nurses,etc,and every time we get commented on how well we are able to go about our duties and being involved with other proffesional groups.

[Gaffers]

I don't think you are understanding the intent of Kev and my comments.  This is not a thread against you, just one incident of a numpty (or two) driving a dangerous load on public roads.  So why take offence?

Nowt personal against you or the majority of Green laners

[EMD]

I dont go off road , dont like to get it dirty 

[Kevin Wood]

Nowt personal against you or the majority of Green laners

Indeed. In fact, when the snow comes down our village tends to get closed off pretty quickly, and the 4x4 clubs are the only people out trying to get cars moving again. Local council and Police representatives stand around in hi-vis jackets advising them that they shouldn't be helping people up the hill because it involves driving on the wrong side of the dual carriageway when they descend to get the next car. Quite how they'd be able to help otherwise I don't know.

I've nothing at all against those who abide by the rules.

But.. try cycling down a lane when there are ruts 2' deep in the mud, or where you get forced into the hedgerow by an endless stream of old 4x4s of a Sunday afternoon.

[4x4]

Well the 4x4s who force you off the track can be reported as they should give way to you,ruts in lanes thats mainly down to some users using extreme mud tyres when not required,ive managed on my road tyres and not got stuck.also its been proven that horses actually do the most damage to by ways.

[Gaffers]

Is that them pesky horses with winter tyres on?

[05omegav6]

Is that them pesky horses with winter tyres on?

That made I chuckle...

[scimmy_man]

no 4x4 can leave ruts 2 foot deep, 

its probably them tractors who I suppose have no rights to be there either?

[05omegav6]

no 4x4 can leave ruts 2 foot deep, 

its probably them tractors who I suppose have no rights to be there either?

Perhaps but to suggest that a horse is more environmentally damaging than a 4x4 is utterly risible

[Sir Tigger KC]

no 4x4 can leave ruts 2 foot deep, 

its probably them tractors who I suppose have no rights to be there either?

Perhaps but to suggest that a horse is more environmentally damaging than a 4x4 is utterly risible

You've clearly never stood behind one Al!   

[05omegav6]

True, but then again I don't drive my car along bridleways...

[henryd]

Another one gone then

[RossPhim]

Seems to be a common theme now-a-days, round here!

 

[Twintop]

Only a newbie,but im starting to see a pattern forming with certain members on here,as a person who does use by ways on a legal motor cross bike and a hummer,yes i do use mine for its intended purpose off roading,and you cant just blame 4x4 users for damage to these lanes.