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2.2 Dti has come to a grinding holt:-(
« on: 22 June 2014, 01:27:30 »

Hi Guys

I am in need of some advice please.

Has anyone had or heard of a dti 2.2 chain to go?

On Friday my trusty steed an 03 which has done 230k suddenly crunched, engine stopped all dash lights came on. I quickly pushed in the clutch and coasted to the side. The AA arrived asked me to try and turn over the engine out of and then in gear.

Against my better judgement I carried this out and just heard a clunk with no turnover of the engine. I've had the car moved to a garage and as it was late Friday afternoon it won't be looked at until Monday.

I suspect the chain has gone, I maybe grasping at straws, but could it be anything else?

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Cheers Gary
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Re: 2.2 Dti has come to a grinding holt:-(
« Reply #1 on: 22 June 2014, 01:45:53 »

There are two chains, one goes from cam shaft to fuel pump, and the other from fuel pump to crank  :-\. The 2.2 petrol engine did have a problem with one of the tensioners going but not the Dti  ??? I have just set the timing on one of these in the last 3 days, I also have a spare engine in my garage with only about 50k on it ::)
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Re: 2.2 Dti has come to a grinding holt:-(
« Reply #2 on: 22 June 2014, 03:33:02 »

A quick look at both chains can be done by removing the inspection cover for the fuel pump, it has 6 screws that have to be removed and you may have to take the aux belt and tensioner off to remove the last screw, but you will be able to check both chains  ;) :y

also look at my post for timing chain cover help :y
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Re: 2.2 Dti has come to a grinding holt:-(
« Reply #3 on: 22 June 2014, 04:06:26 »

I think the clutch has gone :-\
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Re: 2.2 Dti has come to a grinding holt:-(
« Reply #4 on: 22 June 2014, 08:20:08 »

I think the clutch has gone :-\

Unlikely to prevent starting in neutral though unless it's somehow jammed the flywheel?
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Re: 2.2 Dti has come to a grinding holt:-(
« Reply #5 on: 22 June 2014, 09:59:24 »

I've seen a dual mass flywheel take out a starter motor but there would have been weeks of warning noises. There's loads of things it could be, snapped camshaft, timing chains the list is endless :'(
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Re: 2.2 Dti has come to a grinding holt:-(
« Reply #6 on: 23 June 2014, 11:45:41 »

Thanks for the advice guys :y

I suppose I'll have to see what they find this week.

The AA guy said there was a possibility the starter motor could have seized, but would that stop the engine mid flight?

Are they engaged with the flywheel all the time?

Joff. If its the worst how much would you want for the dti engine and does it come with all the bolt on's?

Cheers Gary
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Re: 2.2 Dti has come to a grinding holt:-(
« Reply #7 on: 23 June 2014, 21:04:21 »

Thanks for the advice guys :y

I suppose I'll have to see what they find this week.

The AA guy said there was a possibility the starter motor could have seized, but would that stop the engine mid flight?

Are they engaged with the flywheel all the time?

Joff. If its the worst how much would you want for the dti engine and does it come with all the bolt on's?

Cheers Gary

Which bolts would you like it to have :o :o
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Re: 2.2 Dti has come to a grinding holt:-(
« Reply #8 on: 24 June 2014, 15:15:36 »

Sorry Joff

By Bolt On's, I mean ancillaries like alternator, fuel pump etc, or is it a bare engine?

I don't know really never swapped a modern engine, last one I did was a mk2 Cortina 1600 :) back in the 70's :)

Just trying to way up what's involved. Advice would be appreciated. :y

Cheers Gary
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Re: 2.2 Dti has come to a grinding holt:-(
« Reply #9 on: 28 June 2014, 13:54:14 »

So what happened to the engine  ??? Did you find out :o :o
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« Reply #10 on: 06 September 2014, 13:57:44 »

So what happened to the engine  ??? Did you find out :o :o

Sorry for the late rely Joff.

The replacing of the engine, ended up taking a lot longer than expected. He could only do bits between jobs. But then again when its mates rates you cant complain. I have only just come back online ;)

Anyway we didn't strip down the old engine, but the top chain was so slack you could almost take the chain off the top sprocket. So it must have been the tensioner that gave way. :'(
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