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Sir David Amess MP.
« on: 15 October 2021, 13:52:56 »

Has been stabbed multiple times while carrying out a Constituency surgery in Southend.
More evidence that the world has gone mad.  :(
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« Reply #1 on: 15 October 2021, 15:09:54 »

Dead. :-\
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« Reply #2 on: 15 October 2021, 15:27:21 »

Shocking.  :o :(
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« Reply #3 on: 15 October 2021, 15:28:37 »

whudunnit?
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« Reply #4 on: 15 October 2021, 15:31:36 »

Dont know yet, but the bloke has been arrested.
Which reminds me, we didnt seem to hear any more about the guy who murdered Jo Cox, after he was arrested.  :-\
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« Reply #5 on: 15 October 2021, 15:34:07 »

RIP, Sir David.
This is an assault on democracy and, in my opinion, will alter forever the way our politicians interact with their constituents. I never thought I'd see the day when our parliamentary representatives had to hide behind glass screens or armed officers, but what alternative is there? The bastard who did this should be shot, and that's not just me using a well worn phrase, that's my honest opinion.
Turning into a fûckin banana republic.
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« Reply #6 on: 15 October 2021, 16:06:21 »

Awful thing to happen, but let's be honest there is absolutely no deterrent to this, thousands will be wasted on a trial then thousands more when he's banged up , if there is absolutely no doubt that he is the perpetrator which seems the case the death penalty should be used, but because the powers that be are weak we all know it won't happen.
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« Reply #7 on: 15 October 2021, 16:11:32 »

Awful thing to happen, but let's be honest there is absolutely no deterrent to this, thousands will be wasted on a trial then thousands more when he's banged up , if there is absolutely no doubt that he is the perpetrator which seems the case the death penalty should be used, but because the powers that be are weak we all know it won't happen.
Unless, of course, he has 'mental health issues'. Then he will get five star hotel treatment for the rest of his life.
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« Reply #8 on: 15 October 2021, 16:23:37 »

RIP, Sir David.
This is an assault on democracy and, in my opinion, will alter forever the way our politicians interact with their constituents. I never thought I'd see the day when our parliamentary representatives had to hide behind glass screens or armed officers, but what alternative is there? The bastard who did this should be shot, and that's not just me using a well worn phrase, that's my honest opinion.
Turning into a fûckin banana republic.

Although a terrible event, not the first time that one of our political representatives has been murdered over the decades Steve, but I must agree it is always an assault on our demoracy:

Spencer Perceval, Tory (1762-1812)
The only British prime minister to have been assassinated, Spencer Perceval was gunned down in the lobby of Parliament on 11 May 1812 by John Bellingham, a failed merchant from Liverpool

Lord Frederick Cavendish, Liberal (1836-1882)
Lord Frederick Cavendish of the Liberal Party was the first sitting MP to be killed by Irish Republican extremists. Just hours after travelling to Dublin to take up the role of chief secretary for Ireland on 6 May 1882, Cavendish and the permanent under secretary at the Irish Office, Thomas Henry Burke, were stabbed to death by members of the Irish National Invincibles, a splinter group of the Irish Republican Brotherhood.

Sir Henry Wilson, Ulster Unionist (1864-1922)
Field Marshal Sir Henry Wilson, a decorated soldier and MP for North Down in Northern Ireland, was assassinated on the steps of his home in London on 22 June 1922.

Two London-based members of the Irish Republican Army, Reginald Dunne and Joseph O’Sullivan, were apprehended at the scene and later hanged, but no chain of command has ever been established, and the orchestrator of the assassination has never been determined.

Wilson had been staunchly anti-Republican, and his assassination “led directly to the civil war in Ireland”, according to The Irish Times.

Airey Neave, Conservative (1916-1979)
Just weeks before an election that would see his party leader Margaret Thatcher take power, then shadow secretary of state for Northern Ireland Airey Neave was fatally wounded by an Irish National Liberation Army bomb as he left a House of Commons car park on 30 March 1979.

Reverend Robert Bradford, Ulster Unionist (1941-1981)
Just two years after the death of Neave, Irish republican militants orchestrated the shooting of Belfast South MP Robert Bradford.

In a statement claiming responsibility for the attack, the IRA alleged that Bradford had been “one of the key people responsible for winding up the loyalist paramilitary sectarian machine”. As The New York Times reported at the time, Bradford “was an outspoken critic of the Irish nationalist guerrillas” and had “repeatedly called for the reimposition of capital punishment in the province and for other strong deterrent measures”.

Sir Anthony Berry, Conservative (1925-1984)
Enfield Southgate MP Anthony Berry, who served as deputy chief whip under Thatcher, was killed on 12 October 1984 in the IRA’s bombing of the Grand Hotel in Brighton, where the PM and her cabinet were staying during the Conservative Party conference.

Ian Gow, Conservative (1937-1990)
At the tail end of the Thatcher era, tensions between the UK and Ireland escalated once again following the assassination by the IRA of Ian Gow, the Conservative MP for Eastbourne since 1974. He was killed by a car bomb as he reversed out of his driveway at his home in East Sussex on 30 July 1990.

Helen Joanne Cox (22 June 1974 – 16 June 2016)
A British politician who was the Labour Member of Parliament (MP) for Batley and Spen from her election in May 2015 until her murder in June 2016.

TODAY: Conservative MP Sir David Amess has died after being stabbed at his constituency surgery in Essex = RIP :'( :'( :'( :'(



Although a common theme in many of these murders is the Irish Question, it still shows how vulnerable our politicians are.

Thank God there has been no repeat of a Brighton type atrocity. :( 
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Re: Sir David Amess MP.
« Reply #9 on: 15 October 2021, 16:25:31 »

Awful thing to happen, but let's be honest there is absolutely no deterrent to this, thousands will be wasted on a trial then thousands more when he's banged up , if there is absolutely no doubt that he is the perpetrator which seems the case the death penalty should be used, but because the powers that be are weak we all know it won't happen.
Unless, of course, he has 'mental health issues'. Then he will get five star hotel treatment for the rest of his life.


Steve that is one phrase I am fed up to the teeth with hearing, it seems to be the ultimate ploy for " sicknotes" because nobody will challenge it. How times have changed in my day it was man up or foxtrot oscar, what a weak nation we have become.
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« Reply #10 on: 15 October 2021, 16:26:02 »

I’m waiting with baited breath to see what kind of an animal has carried out this attack, there is no reasonable excuse to let them continue living and further draining our resources. Kill him in the cheapest way possible.
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« Reply #11 on: 15 October 2021, 16:58:08 »

Sad, shocking and depressing news.  :(

RIP.  :'(
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« Reply #12 on: 15 October 2021, 19:44:40 »

It will probably transpire that it was a baggage handler from Southend Airport.
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« Reply #13 on: 15 October 2021, 19:50:51 »

It will probably transpire that it was a baggage handler from Southend Airport. he was just off a rubber dinghy.  :-X

Fixed and there will be a proper shitstorm if it turns out to be the case.  ::)
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« Reply #14 on: 15 October 2021, 19:53:07 »

Now, now. We mustn't guess. Just makes us look like what other people accuse us of looking like.  ::)
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« Reply #15 on: 15 October 2021, 20:03:09 »

Caught the tail end of a news bulletin which referred to "the suspect detained" as being a foreign national..
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« Reply #16 on: 15 October 2021, 20:04:32 »

Caught the tail end of a news bulletin which referred to "the suspect detained" as being a foreign national..
OK.......Let rip  ;D
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« Reply #17 on: 15 October 2021, 20:07:57 »

Now, now. We mustn't guess. Just makes us look like what other people accuse us of looking like.  ::)
Why stop now?  ;D
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« Reply #18 on: 15 October 2021, 20:11:33 »

Caught the tail end of a news bulletin which referred to "the suspect detained" as being a foreign national..

25 year old Somalian.
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« Reply #19 on: 15 October 2021, 20:15:14 »

Caught the tail end of a news bulletin which referred to "the suspect detained" as being a foreign national..

25 year old Somalian.
A British citizen with Somali heritage.

Which kind of makes it worse.
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« Reply #20 on: 15 October 2021, 20:15:20 »

I knew it🤬🤬
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« Reply #21 on: 15 October 2021, 21:54:00 »

I notice the bbc took off HIGNFY tonight, there must have been something that could have been construed as distasteful.
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« Reply #22 on: 15 October 2021, 22:24:44 »

The whole thing is always distasteful. Comic display og hatred of anything or anyone which isnt singing from the same left wing songsheet they are.
Just an average BBC programme I suppose.
I was sickened today by SKY news coverage of todays tragedy. They had to make their coverage as much about the murder of Jo Cox 5 years ago, as it was about what happened today. Just to remind us I suppose that Labour MP,s get murdered the same as Tory MP,s.
Disgraceful imo.
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« Reply #23 on: 16 October 2021, 11:09:33 »

I think that, yet again, this should prompt the question, “bring back the death penalty?”

This, and all murders that are beyond all reasonable doubt, down to the individual in the dock, should now be dealt with by this ultimate penalty.

No excuses, no allowance for mental health or ‘diminished responsibility’ let them all be hung >:(

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« Reply #24 on: 16 October 2021, 12:30:54 »

I agree. If there is no realistic doubt to guilt  (DNA, irrefutable eyewitnesses etc.) then hang them by the neck.
It wont happen though, as almost all of our Politicians are completely spineless these days.
For a start the Govt. would have to get rid of the so called "Human rights act", and the "Liberal" media will go berserk if they try to do that.
Boris has a huge majority and should be able to do exactly what he wants, but he doesnt have the conviction or the guts.
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« Reply #25 on: 16 October 2021, 12:46:00 »

I agree. If there is no realistic doubt to guilt  (DNA, irrefutable eyewitnesses etc.) then hang them by the neck.
It wont happen though, as almost all of our Politicians are completely spineless these days.
For a start the Govt. would have to get rid of the so called "Human rights act", and the "Liberal" media will go berserk if they try to do that.
Boris has a huge majority and should be able to do exactly what he wants, but he doesnt have the conviction or the guts.
You mean he knows his back benchers would hang him out to dry were here even to dare thinking about it. Not that he would even think about it.
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« Reply #26 on: 16 October 2021, 12:59:33 »

I agree. If there is no realistic doubt to guilt  (DNA, irrefutable eyewitnesses etc.) then hang them by the neck.
It wont happen though, as almost all of our Politicians are completely spineless these days.
For a start the Govt. would have to get rid of the so called "Human rights act", and the "Liberal" media will go berserk if they try to do that.
Boris has a huge majority and should be able to do exactly what he wants, but he doesnt have the conviction or the guts.
You mean he knows his back benchers would hang him out to dry were here even to dare thinking about it. Not that he would even think about it.

Carrie will put a hex on him if he isn't woke enough for her liking.

I imagine Boris has to stand in the corner wearing a pointy hat embossed with a capital D if he upsets SWMBO.
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« Reply #27 on: 16 October 2021, 13:05:14 »

I for one would gladly pull the lever if hanging was ever brought back & I wouldn't need counselling after doing it, I have dealt with several evil bastards over the years who deserved to be put to death they are a complete drain on the taxpayer.
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« Reply #28 on: 16 October 2021, 13:15:15 »

As in reply#10 as cheap as possible, and get it done quick.
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« Reply #29 on: 16 October 2021, 14:11:57 »

I agree. If there is no realistic doubt to guilt  (DNA, irrefutable eyewitnesses etc.) then hang them by the neck.
It wont happen though, as almost all of our Politicians are completely spineless these days.
For a start the Govt. would have to get rid of the so called "Human rights act", and the "Liberal" media will go berserk if they try to do that.
Boris has a huge majority and should be able to do exactly what he wants, but he doesnt have the conviction or the guts.

Oh yes, all that is the challenge.  But the way public feelings are changing more to the right and feeling genuinely aggrieved by this constant threat to our society and democracy realignment to the realities of what we are all facing, something will happen.  Is has often in our history, so it will again if the majority of the public make their voices heard.  These wake up events may finally do it, quite apart from having to pay the huge bill for keeping the scum in prison for life (well, until some stupid judge thinks they are safe to be released from prison!! >:( >:( >:( >:(
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« Reply #30 on: 16 October 2021, 15:04:58 »

As in reply#10 as cheap as possible, and get it done quick.

I once read about a gaol somewhere in England that had a concealed door between the condemned's cell and the execution chamber, and it used to take about 7 seconds from opening that door to dropping the condemned through the hatch. No messing and I expect that by the time the condemned realised what was happening they were approaching the end of the drop!  :o

I'd imagine that by the time hanging was abolished, it had got much more lengthy, cumbersome and bureaucratic.
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« Reply #31 on: 16 October 2021, 15:17:01 »

As in reply#10 as cheap as possible, and get it done quick.

I once read about a gaol somewhere in England that had a concealed door between the condemned's cell and the execution chamber, and it used to take about 7 seconds from opening that door to dropping the condemned through the hatch. No messing and I expect that by the time the condemned realised what was happening they were approaching the end of the drop!  :o

I'd imagine that by the time hanging was abolished, it had got much more lengthy, cumbersome and bureaucratic.
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Yes it was all worked out very well the condemned persons height & weight was taken into account to make it as swift as possible , but as we all know mistakes can happen..😄
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« Reply #32 on: 16 October 2021, 20:08:54 »

If the Government cannot stop the main arterial roads being blocked and those committing the offence stick two fingers up at it what chance have you of ever overturning the abolished death penalty .
Life without parole is your only real hope and even then there would be insufficient support for that in the  House Of Lords to pass into law .
We live in a very unfair and unreasonable world now far removed from the days of " let the punishment fit the crime ".  Some may say , correctly ,that we  reap what we sow .....

Re the Death penalty . This quite an austere and harrowing insight into it's modus operandi .
https://vimeo.com/24804876
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« Reply #33 on: 16 October 2021, 20:40:26 »

You are right there Lizzie! “bring back the death penalty?”
BUT! it will never happen. Unfortunately.
The way I see it from here in Mallorca is the governments in the UK in the past have welcomed everybody from ethnic countries with NO checks or if any skills which they have would benefit our UK society. And still they bring them in! WTF?
This last sad incident proves it! The lefties and not so lefties will twitter on about our great country and our wonderful right to vote as a democratic country.
It's time to take a vote on EVERYTHING that is very important to the running of this country, never mind what idiot is next to the box with a (tick or X) next to it.
That to me is a fully democratic country.
BUT! it will never happen! Unfortunately.
I have done my bit for this country twice and I weep what is happening now. I do weep!
What can we do? sweet FA! I do weep!

I digress!
I have just been watching uk commercial tv here and are there no northern europeans to fit the adverts? any space alien watching from out there would think that everybody was, well????

And! before anybody starts having a go at me for being a racist or any other (ism) there is, I know what racism or any other (ism) there is, I have worked all over the world. North and central muslim Africa worst and central Africa second.
Bombs, bullets and spitting at you on the street. Calling names? waaaay down the list.

Thats the way it is! It's a pity you all cannot experience it as I did!

Happy days though!

PS back in gods own next month due to brexit. Doh!






 
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« Reply #34 on: 16 October 2021, 20:47:07 »

Yes it was all worked out very well the condemned persons height & weight was taken into account to make it as swift as possible , but as we all know mistakes can happen..😄

His name was Albert Pierrepoint. He was an expert apparently!

Bring him back! Oh.. hold on..
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« Reply #35 on: 16 October 2021, 21:23:50 »

As in reply#10 as cheap as possible, and get it done quick.

I once read about a gaol somewhere in England that had a concealed door between the condemned's cell and the execution chamber, and it used to take about 7 seconds from opening that door to dropping the condemned through the hatch. No messing and I expect that by the time the condemned realised what was happening they were approaching the end of the drop!  :o

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Yes it was all worked out very well the condemned persons height & weight was taken into account to make it as swift as possible , but as we all know mistakes can happen..😄

Yes they clearly didn't study the height/weight/length of rope tables when they hung Saddam Hussein?  :-\
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« Reply #36 on: 16 October 2021, 21:43:47 »

Yes it was all worked out very well the condemned persons height & weight was taken into account to make it as swift as possible , but as we all know mistakes can happen..😄

His name was Albert Pierrepoint. He was an expert apparently!

Bring him back! Oh.. hold on..

                Yes indeed the last hangman in a family of them👍 I read a book about him and his executions some interesting information and stories about his visits some surprises in there too👀
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Re: Sir David Amess MP.
« Reply #37 on: 17 October 2021, 13:37:50 »

Yes it was all worked out very well the condemned persons height & weight was taken into account to make it as swift as possible , but as we all know mistakes can happen..😄

His name was Albert Pierrepoint. He was an expert apparently!

Bring him back! Oh.. hold on..

I'm pretty sure we watched a film of this name.

Well acted......I think Albert Pierrepoint was played by Timothy Spall.
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« Reply #38 on: 17 October 2021, 14:28:03 »

Strange use of language being used by some media outlets....

They say David Amess 'passed away'......I find this a really odd way to describe a man who was stabbed 17 times.
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« Reply #39 on: 17 October 2021, 17:54:57 »

Strange use of language being used by some media outlets....

They say David Amess 'passed away'......I find this a really odd way to describe a man who was stabbed 17 times.

Indeed, and they don't seem to like the word murdered either, seemingly preferring the term killing::)  ie  the killing of Joe Bloggs, rather than Joe Blogg's murder.  :-\

Maybe it's a legal thing and they can't describe it as murder, until a conviction occurs.  ???  :-\
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« Reply #40 on: 17 October 2021, 18:31:16 »

Strange use of language being used by some media outlets....

They say David Amess 'passed away'......I find this a really odd way to describe a man who was stabbed 17 times.

Indeed, and they don't seem to like the word murdered either, seemingly preferring the term killing::)  ie  the killing of Joe Bloggs, rather than Joe Blogg's murder.  :-\

Maybe it's a legal thing and they can't describe it as murder, until a conviction occurs.  ???  :-\

Brutally murdered seems more appropriate than 'passed away'

Perhaps they are trying their best not to inflame the situation. :-\
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« Reply #41 on: 17 October 2021, 20:01:05 »

Trouble is that nowadays it's simply not possible to call a spade a spade...  :-X
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« Reply #42 on: 17 October 2021, 20:17:17 »

Trouble is that nowadays it's simply not possible to call a spade a spade...  :-X

Racist..... ;D
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« Reply #43 on: 17 October 2021, 21:16:23 »

Sky have taken the last three episodes of COBRA off because 'someone got stabbed' in it. Fûckin idiots.
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« Reply #44 on: 17 October 2021, 21:34:17 »

Sky have taken the last three episodes of COBRA off because 'someone got stabbed' in it. Fûckin idiots.
I thought it seemed like half a series  :(
I wonder how long before the last episodes get released  :-\
there's always someone somewhere  having a toffee crisp getting murdered
BBC also removed Casualty from the sky box this week too
they put "Miranda" on  >:( fortunately there's lots recorded to watch
there might have been more murders if I'd of had to watch that sh!t for an hour  :D
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« Reply #45 on: 17 October 2021, 21:36:35 »

Sky have taken the last three episodes of COBRA off because 'someone got stabbed' in it. Fûckin idiots.
I thought it seemed like half a series  :(
I wonder how long before the last episodes get released  :-\
there's always someone somewhere  having a toffee crisp getting murdered
BBC also removed Casualty from the sky box this week too
they put "Miranda" on  >:( fortunately there's lots recorded to watch
there might have been more murders if I'd of had to watch that sh!t for an hour :D

That is shit as well!  ::)
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« Reply #46 on: 17 October 2021, 21:42:02 »

Sky have taken the last three episodes of COBRA off because 'someone got stabbed' in it. Fûckin idiots.
I thought it seemed like half a series  :(
I wonder how long before the last episodes get released  :-\
there's always someone somewhere  having a toffee crisp getting murdered
BBC also removed Casualty from the sky box this week too
they put "Miranda" on  >:( fortunately there's lots recorded to watch
there might have been more murders if I'd of had to watch that sh!t for an hour :D

That is shit as well!  ::)
that's why I made the comment 

or do you dislike Casualty too  :-\
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« Reply #47 on: 17 October 2021, 23:03:27 »

Sky have taken the last three episodes of COBRA off because 'someone got stabbed' in it. Fûckin idiots.
I thought it seemed like half a series  :(
I wonder how long before the last episodes get released  :-\
there's always someone somewhere  having a toffee crisp getting murdered
BBC also removed Casualty from the sky box this week too
they put "Miranda" on  >:( fortunately there's lots recorded to watch
there might have been more murders if I'd of had to watch that sh!t for an hour :D

That is shit as well!  ::)
that's why I made the comment 

or do you dislike Casualty too  :-\

It's just all shit Dave!  :D
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« Reply #48 on: 18 October 2021, 08:05:35 »

Sadly, although I agree in principle, bringing back the death penalty would suit these extremists by achieving notoriety AND passage to heaven (or their idea of it) simultaneously. A win win in their tiny minds.  >:(
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« Reply #49 on: 18 October 2021, 08:37:16 »

Sadly, although I agree in principle, bringing back the death penalty would suit these extremists by achieving notoriety AND passage to heaven (or their idea of it) simultaneously. A win win in their tiny minds.  >:(
Yes, Chris, but looking at the practical side of things, they'd never re-offend and it wouldn't cost us a fortune to keep them.
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« Reply #50 on: 18 October 2021, 09:34:32 »

Sadly, although I agree in principle, bringing back the death penalty would suit these extremists by achieving notoriety AND passage to heaven (or their idea of it) simultaneously. A win win in their tiny minds.  >:(
Yes, Chris, but looking at the practical side of things, they'd never re-offend and it wouldn't cost us a fortune to keep them.
If we only provide them with bread and water whilst in prison, then they wouldn't cost quite as much to keep. Especially if you applied that across the board.
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« Reply #51 on: 18 October 2021, 13:18:17 »

Aint you eard of yuman rites ?
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« Reply #52 on: 18 October 2021, 13:30:57 »

Miranda?

Is this the 7 feet tall girl?

I think her friend refers to her as 'Queen Kong' in the TV show. :D
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« Reply #53 on: 18 October 2021, 14:03:58 »

Aint you eard of yuman rites ?
What about the rights of the people they offended against?

Punishment should be a deterrent. Shooting or hanging isn't a deterrent because they then have nothing to lose, but equally three square, no bills and free interweb and Sky is no deterrent either... In fact it encourages getting caught because you have nothing to worry about, and you're still guaranteed a pension when you get out regardless.

Barely surviving may well dehumanise offenders, but why should they get given things that everyone else has to struggle for?
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« Reply #54 on: 18 October 2021, 14:10:06 »

For 100% known terrible crimes like this the offender should be given half an hour in a private room with a few members of the deceased family and a wheelie bin that’s quite a good deterrent.
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« Reply #55 on: 18 October 2021, 14:19:55 »

I'm not adverse to the idea of culling the worst, but you have to consider that if the punishment is certain death, then the crimes will become more vicious in their delivery.
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« Reply #56 on: 18 October 2021, 14:23:04 »

I'm not adverse to the idea of culling the worst, but you have to consider that if the punishment is certain death, then the crimes will become more vicious in their delivery.
Yep, he'd have stabbed him 18 times instead of 17.
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« Reply #57 on: 18 October 2021, 14:56:22 »

I'm not adverse to the idea of culling the worst, but you have to consider that if the punishment is certain death, then the crimes will become more vicious in their delivery.
Yep, he'd have stabbed him 18 times instead of 17.
Two or three times would suggest intent rather than "Oops"
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« Reply #58 on: 18 October 2021, 17:49:27 »

Dead is dead. Certain revenge is a deterrent.
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« Reply #59 on: 19 October 2021, 11:13:22 »

Dead is dead. Certain revenge is a deterrent.


Yes. In cases like this there is only one remedy. Death. Execution. Call it what you will.
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