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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #240 on: 21 November 2018, 08:49:49 »

"Contingency plans" in my sector means "Outsource it all to India"..
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #241 on: 21 November 2018, 08:59:30 »

"Contingency plans" in my sector means "Outsource it all to India"..
Most firms are still trying to recover from the last time they did that ;D
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« Reply #242 on: 21 November 2018, 09:34:10 »

"Contingency plans" in my sector means "Outsource it all to India"..
Most firms are still trying to recover from the last time they did that ;D

Not in the IT world - we've now turned full circle and are fully back on the outsourcing thing again.. Give it five years and it'll start to swing back again, I suspect.
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« Reply #243 on: 21 November 2018, 10:47:08 »

Giving call handlers on the Indian sub continent, who earn about £2.50 a week, access to your banking and credit card details. What could possibly go wrong?
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #244 on: 21 November 2018, 11:21:56 »

Giving call handlers on the Indian sub continent, who earn about £2.50 a week, access to your banking and credit card details. What could possibly go wrong?

I asked customer service about this.

They informed me the company was responding to what we the customer had requested. ;D
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« Reply #245 on: 21 November 2018, 11:36:37 »

I asked customer service about this.

They informed me the company was responding to what we the customer had requested. ;D

The customer wants everything cheaper. Cheaper. Cheaper. The company wants to maintain profit margins. So you need to provide all your services for less..

Guess how you cut costs as a company? ;)
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #246 on: 21 November 2018, 12:31:21 »

Do customers want cheaper? No one asks us.

Living in the sticks as we do, price is often low on our priorities. Availability for one is more important. Another is will it work, happen. For call centres short waiting time and efficient call handling.
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #247 on: 21 November 2018, 12:38:53 »

I asked customer service about this.

They informed me the company was responding to what we the customer had requested. ;D

The customer wants everything cheaper. Cheaper. Cheaper. The company wants to maintain profit margins. So you need to provide all your services for less..

Guess how you cut costs as a company? ;)

Pay peanuts to people who live in a mud hut.
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« Reply #248 on: 21 November 2018, 12:41:06 »

I asked customer service about this.

They informed me the company was responding to what we the customer had requested. ;D

The customer wants everything cheaper. Cheaper. Cheaper. The company wants to maintain profit margins. So you need to provide all your services for less..

Guess how you cut costs as a company? ;)

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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #249 on: 21 November 2018, 18:03:56 »

"Contingency plans" in my sector means "Outsource it all to India"..
Other "low cost" countries are available.

And its just the excuse most companies, IT or otherwise, are looking for, because they need to absorb the costs of exiting the EU with no deal, and outsourcing to India in IT offers savings far above the WTO threshold, even by the time you account for needing twice as many due to the quality of staff available.
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #250 on: 21 November 2018, 18:04:51 »

Do customers want cheaper? No one asks us.
Yes, as many ask questions when cancelling a service, and number one answer is price...
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #251 on: 21 November 2018, 18:39:44 »

Do customers want cheaper? No one asks us.
Yes, as many ask questions when cancelling a service, and number one answer is price...
You're confusing price and value for money...

People object to paying over the odds for less than mediocre service.

Most companies great at telling customers what they want, but invariably suck balls at delivering what the customer actually wants ::)
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #252 on: 21 November 2018, 21:53:14 »

It appears to me that those preferring WTO/Hard Brexit over the Chequers deal don't understand the consequences of that.

WTO rules means you have to treat all WTO members you trade with equally. It you apply tariffs to one country/block, you must apply them to all. Similarly if you apply no tariffs for a given product to one country/block then you cannot apply tariffs for that product to any other WTO member. It's called the "Most favoured nation" rule.

The upshot is that you more or less have to impose a hard border both ways in Ireland to trade on WTO terms. The UK cannot import (for instance) Irish Beef into Northern Ireland "tariff free" unless it allows all other EU and WTO countries to export Beef into the UK (via whatever route) tariff free. So we'd have to be checking and controlling all imports across the Eire/NI boarder to claim WTO compliance. If we don't other, WTO Beef exporters (like the USA) will object.

Similarly, Eire cannot allow the UK or NI to export into Eire without checks. Eire will still be in the EU, and the EU is a customs union. The EU cannot allow unfettered access across the NI boarder and still claim WTO compliance. Since the EU does a lot of trade with the rest of the world on WTO terms, the EU won't want to risk aggro at the WTO.

The result of all this is that the Good Friday Agreement and WTO are basically incompatible with each other. You can have one or the other, but not both.
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #253 on: 21 November 2018, 21:59:08 »

Good Friday agreement was a completely unnecessary con trick by Blair, which has long since lost what little relevance it did have. Binning it is nothing to be worried about.  ;)
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Re: Brexit negotiations
« Reply #254 on: 21 November 2018, 22:06:17 »

Good Friday agreement was a completely unnecessary con trick by Blair, which has long since lost what little relevance it did have. Binning it is nothing to be worried about.  ;)

Do I take it you are volunteering to man one of the checkpoints between Eire and NI then?
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