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[STEMO]

You may be surprised, but I agree with you entirely Opti!

Yes, everyone who is considered for any professional role must be assessed on merit.  What they can do for the business / job/ role, etc., MUST be the only consideration.  That means everyone, no matter what creed, colour, sexuality, gender identity should be considered and appointed on their ability.

I'd agree with this, except it doesn't actually work that way in the real world. 14% of the UK population is non-white, and 70 odd million people is enough to make a statistically relevant sample. So taking the FTSE 100 for example, there *ought* to be 14% non-white people in top jobs (unless you want to argue that white people are smarter/better able to lead than non white, which is racism at its core). In practice there are only 3.5%.

Just looking at the numbers it's pretty clear that the tables have been tilted for a long time and no amount of talking about appointments being made on merit has changed that. Look across many other fields, the media included and racism is pretty clearly alive and well in the UK, along with many other places the numbers bear it out.

The truth is that 'positive discrimination ' is just a tiny tiny hint of what it might be like with the shoe on the other foot and mostly white, mostly men of mostly a certain age get their ar$e in their hands about it.

How many of the 14% of non whites can actually converse in English? That's not a racist, throw away question, my wife works in a school in Sheffield where a fair percentage of the parents have to have an interpreter at meetings.

[STEMO]

And, while we're talking non white, I suspect we mean black, not Asian. The business world, along with most other occupations, have a good percentage of Asian people represented. If we are talking black, what percentage of the population do they represent?

[Sir Tigger KC]

You may be surprised, but I agree with you entirely Opti!

Yes, everyone who is considered for any professional role must be assessed on merit.  What they can do for the business / job/ role, etc., MUST be the only consideration.  That means everyone, no matter what creed, colour, sexuality, gender identity should be considered and appointed on their ability.

I'd agree with this, except it doesn't actually work that way in the real world. 14% of the UK population is non-white, and 70 odd million people is enough to make a statistically relevant sample. So taking the FTSE 100 for example, there *ought* to be 14% non-white people in top jobs (unless you want to argue that white people are smarter/better able to lead than non white, which is racism at its core). In practice there are only 3.5%.

Just looking at the numbers it's pretty clear that the tables have been tilted for a long time and no amount of talking about appointments being made on merit has changed that. Look across many other fields, the media included and racism is pretty clearly alive and well in the UK, along with many other places the numbers bear it out.

The truth is that 'positive discrimination ' is just a tiny tiny hint of what it might be like with the shoe on the other foot and mostly white, mostly men of mostly a certain age get their ar$e in their hands about it.

How many of the 14% of non whites can actually converse in English? That's not a racist, throw away question, my wife works in a school in Sheffield where a fair percentage of the parents have to have an interpreter at meetings.

At the taxpayers expense? 

[STEMO]

You may be surprised, but I agree with you entirely Opti!

Yes, everyone who is considered for any professional role must be assessed on merit.  What they can do for the business / job/ role, etc., MUST be the only consideration.  That means everyone, no matter what creed, colour, sexuality, gender identity should be considered and appointed on their ability.

I'd agree with this, except it doesn't actually work that way in the real world. 14% of the UK population is non-white, and 70 odd million people is enough to make a statistically relevant sample. So taking the FTSE 100 for example, there *ought* to be 14% non-white people in top jobs (unless you want to argue that white people are smarter/better able to lead than non white, which is racism at its core). In practice there are only 3.5%.

Just looking at the numbers it's pretty clear that the tables have been tilted for a long time and no amount of talking about appointments being made on merit has changed that. Look across many other fields, the media included and racism is pretty clearly alive and well in the UK, along with many other places the numbers bear it out.

The truth is that 'positive discrimination ' is just a tiny tiny hint of what it might be like with the shoe on the other foot and mostly white, mostly men of mostly a certain age get their ar$e in their hands about it.

How many of the 14% of non whites can actually converse in English? That's not a racist, throw away question, my wife works in a school in Sheffield where a fair percentage of the parents have to have an interpreter at meetings.

At the taxpayers expense? 

No, usually a member of the community.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

You may be surprised, but I agree with you entirely Opti!

Yes, everyone who is considered for any professional role must be assessed on merit.  What they can do for the business / job/ role, etc., MUST be the only consideration.  That means everyone, no matter what creed, colour, sexuality, gender identity should be considered and appointed on their ability.

I'd agree with this, except it doesn't actually work that way in the real world. 14% of the UK population is non-white, and 70 odd million people is enough to make a statistically relevant sample. So taking the FTSE 100 for example, there *ought* to be 14% non-white people in top jobs (unless you want to argue that white people are smarter/better able to lead than non white, which is racism at its core). In practice there are only 3.5%.

Just looking at the numbers it's pretty clear that the tables have been tilted for a long time and no amount of talking about appointments being made on merit has changed that. Look across many other fields, the media included and racism is pretty clearly alive and well in the UK, along with many other places the numbers bear it out.

The truth is that 'positive discrimination ' is just a tiny tiny hint of what it might be like with the shoe on the other foot and mostly white, mostly men of mostly a certain age get their ar$e in their hands about it.

Only about 3% are black .......more than twice this amount are Asian.

Yet the Asian representation is far less than that of black people. Why?

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

When I talk of Asian representation being less than that of black people I mean on television.

As STMO points out Asian people are well represented in the business world.

[Drewomega]

I have just been watching a UK commercial channel here in Mallorca and Mr Kipling has always made exceedingly good cakes but I notice he has changed colour!! AND he looks like a black santa. Well, I can't remember him being like that when I was kid. I weep, I really do!

[Raeturbo]

If you don’t conform to this crap it will cost you one way or another.

[Doctor Gollum]

Working at Heathrow, and both are very well represented...

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I have just been watching a UK commercial channel here in Mallorca and Mr Kipling has always made exceedingly good cakes but I notice he has changed colour!! AND he looks like a black santa. Well, I can't remember him being like that when I was kid. I weep, I really do!

The new Santa lives in Jamaica.

Lapland Santa has retired.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Rudolph the reindeer has also been put out to pasture and replaced by Winston.

[Lizzie Zoom]

I have just been watching a UK commercial channel here in Mallorca and Mr Kipling has always made exceedingly good cakes but I notice he has changed colour!! AND he looks like a black santa. Well, I can't remember him being like that when I was kid. I weep, I really do!

The new Santa lives in Jamaica.

Lapland Santa has retired.

That’s due to global warming melting a lot of their snow

[Doctor Gollum]

I have just been watching a UK commercial channel here in Mallorca and Mr Kipling has always made exceedingly good cakes but I notice he has changed colour!! AND he looks like a black santa. Well, I can't remember him being like that when I was kid. I weep, I really do!

The new Santa lives in Jamaica.

Lapland Santa has retired.

That’s due to global warming melting a lot of their snow

And I thought he was forced out by divisity.

One of the new start groups at work has BLM in the title of their WhatsApp group.

Safe to say there isn't a single white, Latino or anyone ethnically East of Djibouti within it...

[STEMO]

I have just been watching a UK commercial channel here in Mallorca and Mr Kipling has always made exceedingly good cakes but I notice he has changed colour!! AND he looks like a black santa. Well, I can't remember him being like that when I was kid. I weep, I really do!

The new Santa lives in Jamaica.

Lapland Santa has retired.

That’s due to global warming melting a lot of their snow

And I thought he was forced out by divisity.

One of the new start groups at work has BLM in the title of their WhatsApp group.

Safe to say there isn't a single white, Latino or anyone ethnically East of Djibouti within it...

They live in their own, entitled bubble. It's good that no one else is invited, nor requests entry, to their little, uninformed world. They are, and always will be, no more than a shouty minority.