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[Rangie]

Yep, those who still hate her because of what happened to the miners need to take an objective look at the whole thing, with the benefit of hindsight.
They would then be burning effigies of Scargill instead.
I hated her at the time, because I was young and stupid. When I grew up I realised she was the best PM of my lifetime.
Its hard to imagine what would have become of this country if she hadnt came to power.

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Got to agree fully with you, as for unions I can't fault them been in  COHSE & the POA both served me excellently when I needed their services.

[Raeturbo]

Scargill caused more pit closures than Thatcher did.Traditionally when the miners went on strike the pit deputies were allowed to go down to keep the pits safe for when the miners returned[preventing build up of gasses/flooding etc]in the strike of '84 Scargill largely put a stop to the deputies being allowed past the picket lines and down the pits so many couldn't be "revived".

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                 Yes^^^

[Nick W]

There’s a lot of truth in that, IMO.

We would also still be firing people for not being able to work due to easily avoidable industrial accidents(assuming they managed to survive), and exploiting 12 year olds for their size and cheapness. But that can't have been all bad can it?

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

There’s a lot of truth in that, IMO.

We would also still be firing people for not being able to work due to easily avoidable industrial accidents(assuming they managed to survive), and exploiting 12 year olds for their size and cheapness. But that can't have been all bad can it?

There must be one or two still stuck up a Victorian chimney somewhere, although they are more likely to be 8 years old rather than 12.

[Raeturbo]

There’s a lot of truth in that, IMO.

We would also still be firing people for not being able to work due to easily avoidable industrial accidents(assuming they managed to survive), and exploiting 12 year olds for their size and cheapness. But that can't have been all bad can it?

                No, there’s good in everything if you look hard enough

[STEMO]

There’s a lot of truth in that, IMO.

We would also still be firing people for not being able to work due to easily avoidable industrial accidents(assuming they managed to survive), and exploiting 12 year olds for their size and cheapness. But that can't have been all bad can it?

                No, there’s good in everything if you look hard enough

BLM?

[Raeturbo]

Do you look hard enough Rambo?

[raywilb]

she was a crafty sod. gave council house dwellers a chance to buy their houses then curbed the rights of workers to strike so the fear of losing their homes played a big part in the mining community, i do remember one Sunday i went to watch a rugby league game & hundreds of police turned up & took up a whole terrace. they were supposed to be policing miners that were picketing the Selby mines but no miners were there. no police had numbers on their uniforms so whenever any complaints they could not be identified.

[Rangie]

A mate of mine now retired was in the Police & did a lot of extra hours whilst supporting the local force, helped him pay off a massive chunk of his mortgage, he thought Maggie was heaven sent.

[Varche]

Coal mining. Now there is a job no one should need to do.

[Doctor Gollum]

Coal mining. Now there is a job no one should need to do.

OK, what about bauxite or gravel or lithium or copper etc?

Most raw materials come from the ground. Which gives two choices... mines, enclosed or opencast, or returning to the Stone Age. 

[Andy B]

she was a crafty sod. gave council house dwellers a chance to buy their houses ...

Massively discounted too ....

[Nick W]

she was a crafty sod. gave council house dwellers a chance to buy their houses ...

Massively discounted too ....

That was always available for long-term tenants. The difference was that money was reinvested in the housing stock, whereas Thatcher's selloff specifically denied that option. Many councils then used that for short term political gain. But as always when you start using capital for ordinary expenses, you permanently opps up your medium and long term prospects.


The North Sea gas profits were similarly wasted on political dogma

[Raeturbo]

Coal mining. Now there is a job no one should need to do.

                There’s worse jobs…

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

When asked about Thatcher my grandmother would say....

"Well, she is a plucky girl, but the job of PM is a job for a man.

She spoke a lot of sense.