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Title: Covid Deaths
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 11 November 2020, 20:08:41
The total death toll of people who have died for any reason, within 28 days of a positive Covid test has now gone over 50,000.  ::)

Think about that statement for a moment and then wonder why the hell we are all swallowing this shite without question!  :-X  >:(
Title: Re: Covid Deaths
Post by: STEMO on 11 November 2020, 20:22:37
The total death toll of people who have died for any reason, within 28 days of a positive Covid test has now gone over 50,000.  ::)

Think about that statement for a moment and then wonder why the hell we are all swallowing this shite without question!  :-X  >:(
You're not swallowing it without question.
Title: Re: Covid Deaths
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 11 November 2020, 20:29:38
The total death toll of people who have died for any reason, within 28 days of a positive Covid test has now gone over 50,000.  ::)

Think about that statement for a moment and then wonder why the hell we are all swallowing this shite without question!  :-X  >:(
You're not swallowing it without question.

No.  It seems to me that most people do though.  ::)
Title: Re: Covid Deaths
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 November 2020, 20:55:29
Suggesting otherwise is apparently conspiricist...
Title: Re: Covid Deaths
Post by: dave the builder on 11 November 2020, 22:10:14
Don't forget to add the 30,000 excess deaths at home to that 50K  ;)
then add on all the people who didn't get diagnosis or treatment in the last 8 months that will die
then double that number for the total before covid is possibly vaccinated against ,IF that works  ;)

a great "thinning of the surplus population"  :-X
Title: Re: Covid Deaths
Post by: STEMO on 11 November 2020, 22:16:38
Thinning of the surplus population? So far, in the whole of the world, there has been around 50 million cases, that's cases, not deaths. This year, so far the world population has grown by 70 million.
1.27 million deaths, 70 million additional people. Not much thinning there.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?utm_campaign=homeAdvegas1?%22%20%5Cl%20%22countries

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
Title: Re: Covid Deaths
Post by: dave the builder on 11 November 2020, 22:36:20
they've not released covid 20 yet  ;)
Title: Re: Covid Deaths
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 November 2020, 22:41:50
they've not released covid 20 yet  ;)
Or have they...
Title: Re: Covid Deaths
Post by: zirk on 11 November 2020, 23:03:10
It went over 50,000 Months ago before they stopped counting Deaths that happened more than 28 Days after being Tested with in Virus, meaning if you Die on the 29th Day or over, your not an statistic.
Title: Re: Covid Deaths
Post by: Rangie on 12 November 2020, 07:26:01
Who's in charge of the counting Diane Abbot ?
Title: Re: Covid Deaths
Post by: henryd on 12 November 2020, 09:42:02
Don't forget to add the 30,000 excess deaths at home to that 50K  ;)
then add on all the people who didn't get diagnosis or treatment in the last 8 months that will die
then double that number for the total before covid is possibly vaccinated against ,IF that works  ;)

a great "thinning of the surplus population"  :-X

Then add the Flu deaths which are now included in the death toll :-X
Title: Re: Covid Deaths
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 November 2020, 10:16:13
Don't forget to add the 30,000 excess deaths at home to that 50K  ;)
then add on all the people who didn't get diagnosis or treatment in the last 8 months that will die
then double that number for the total before covid is possibly vaccinated against ,IF that works  ;)

a great "thinning of the surplus population"  :-X

Then add the Flu deaths which are now included in the death toll :-X
That tells you everything you need to know...

It's unusual behaviour for a Conservative government, but it does seem to be a global approach, which is disconcerting as there's only one reason to make the numbers worse...
Title: Re: Covid Deaths
Post by: Jimbob on 12 November 2020, 10:18:25
Ive ignored their figures in this all along, and used my own from the office of National Statistics.

They helpfully publish deaths this year every week, week by week, compared the average of that week over the last 5 years.  Gives a decent insight into the real situation
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales

In this spreadsheet just look at the weekly figures tab, rows 9 & 10
https://www.ons.gov.uk/file?uri=%2fpeoplepopulationandcommunity%2fbirthsdeathsandmarriages%2fdeaths%2fdatasets%2fweeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales%2f2020/publishedweek442020.xlsx

You can see how it ramped up from average figures to over double the weekly deaths at its maximum, then reducing once noone was going out, and now ramping up again

There is also some Covid data in there but I ignore it in favour of the above, as they are absolute figures, not depending if someone thought covid was somehow involved.
Title: Re: Covid Deaths
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 November 2020, 10:26:53
They also state that the figures for weeks 11-18 are lower* than the 5 year trend but for weeks 19-28 slightly higher* and go onto say that this isn't significant enough to indicate a trend as there is some variation year to year.

* these may be the other around but you get the point.