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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Mister Rog on 31 March 2022, 23:54:19
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I've never had a sports car. I'm not a real petrolhead, but I have a bit of an itch to scratch.
Cars like midgets & MGBs, spirfires are fine, but actually a bit dull, and I'm not sure I'd fit into one. I certainly could not do any renovation.
Chrysler Crossfires are kind of ugly, but have an appeal. Quite cheap. Merc SLK under the bodywork I think. Enough Oooomph for me. Never sat in one or driven one, but they look quite roomy. Quite fancy a convertible auto, but I could live with manual and maybe hard top.
Any opinions amongst all you experts out there?
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Oh dear . . .
I just found this . . . surely not that bad, is it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-tjiKIUhf0
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Not an expert but the two I fancy are MX5 and the SLK . They just look right. If money was plentiful then a Jaguar. I sat in a hard top MX5 a friend owned before he passed away. I have a lasting memory of how close the a pillar was! He did say I could have a drive in it but sadly I never took him up on it.
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Not an expert but the two I fancy are MX5 and the SLK . They just look right. If money was plentiful then a Jaguar. I sat in a hard top MX5 a friend owned before he passed away. I have a lasting memory of how close the a pillar was! He did say I could have a drive in it but sadly I never took him up on it.
I had a conversation with my local independant garage about MX5. He had one in for some work and suggested I tried sitting in it. Errr . . . . total fail. It must have shrunk in a car wash somewhere ::)
Many years ago when I really was thin, I tried sitting in an MGB at the Motor Show. Not much better, needed a shoehorn.
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My brothers father in law had an SLK320 when he retired and found it a bit flat considering the performance on paper. He replaced it with a BMW 1 Series convertible which he found to be a much better car, so much so, that when he passed, he left it to my SIL and they still have, and importantly, use it.
Depends what you want from the car, but presumably two doors over 4, and possibly convertible... If you want to thrash it every where then a manual SLK/baby BMW will be fine. Neither are perfect, but try a selection of cars before buying anything.
If you want something a bit roomier, for longer road trips/continental touring, but with some get up and go, then I would suggest a CLK500, either pre 2005 or post 2007 (the early 5.5 lump has its moments, sorted by 2007. Pre 2005 is a different engine and proven to be pretty damn reliable.
A BMW 330/335 would be a sporty alternative. As would a larger engine Boxster.
Plenty of choice around for any given budget but choose and buy carefully according to how you want to use the car... Getting this bit wrong will sour the purchase somewhat.
Some left field alternatives would include Pug 306 convertible/GTi6, 406 coupe, Merc SL, current model Fiat Spider (posh MX5 underneath), Jag XK.
All of the above are available for modest sums, obviously the bigger the budget, the more choice, and it goes without saying that if the top comes down the price goes up.
Will have a rummage for some actual suggestions...
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In no particular order, and chosen on first impressions, ie would I consider going to see it... haven't looked at the MoT histories and age/mileage is largely irrelevant on the basis that condition counts above both. These aren't necessarily the cheapest ones for sale, nor the most expensive, but I have tried to select best value for money for each example and those cars that are more expensive are rarer hence the higher prices.
If you have the stomach for active hydraulic suspension, then there are plenty of SL500s around, for similar money to the SL350... And the V8 offers a decent power hike over the V6, although I have deliberately picked out cars with the M112/113 engine as, for this price level, it is the safer bet. The later M272/273 offers significantly more power, but are a liability upto 2007/8 in a new engine kind of way. Another one for the brave pills would be a Maserati GT but the ones with a reliable gearbox are relatively expensive, £20k+.
The last one is my personal favourite, just because, but this list should give you some ideas.
Mercedes 350SL (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202112140516452)
Mercedes CLK500 convertible (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203284018199)
Mercedes CLK500 Coupe (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202202022054054)
Mercedes SLK32 (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203023102702)
BMW 125i convertible (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202201241694248)
BMW 330 Ci convertible (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202109207601633)
Boxster (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203294092943)
Budget Porsche 911 cabriolet (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202202022045039)
Peugeot 306 convertible (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353615632710)
Jaaag XK8 convertible (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203103413312)
Completely off the wall but why the hell not... (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203073280004)
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As an old Git who had never owned an open top sports car and had to scratch the itch before it was too late - I bought a Boxster 986 a year ago and am happy to have done so.
Go and test drive a few different cars and see what takes your fancy. :y
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No one has suggested a Smart Roadster .... ::)
Tremendous fun. They're not fast but when your bum is inches off the ground they feel it & they go round corners/bends a lot faster than most people will try. Don't believe all the copy & paste reviews about clunky gearboxes etc. I agree it's not the slickest gearbox but not as bad as the press made out.
And there's loads of room inside .... once you're in. ;D
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MX5 is the only answer. We have the occasional use of one and it makes you fall in love with driving again.
Rust is the only issue...
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If you have a decent budget go for a well looked after Triumph Stag , one of my neighbours has one & it is absolutely stunning & sounds awesome £25-30k should buy a beauty.
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MX5 is the only answer. We have the occasional use of one and it makes you fall in love with driving again.
Rust is the only issue...
It is a big issue.
And they are very small inside.
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the MGF, which is much more comfortable for normal sized people and is just as much fun to drive.
But it all comes down to what you want the car for:
hooning about like a teenager means a small, low powered car like a Mazda or MG.
if you just want to cruise about sunburning your head then a Jag or Mercedes convertible is the tool of choice.
if you're the tool, you need a Porsche. It doesn't matter which, as you'll be launching it backwards through the scenery at some point.
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I agree that a Triumph Stag would be tremendous Sunday afternoon car, but having owned one for 10 years, not ideal for anything other than that - a Sunday afternoon jaunt. Unless you know a lot about its history, and understand them inside and out, there could be a lot if gremlins lurking. If are keen on regular maintenance too....but yes, what an awesome sounding 3.0 V8.
From the tales of woe I've heard, and experience in more modern convertibles, then I personally would stay away from anything classed as a convertible, especially fabric tops - the amount of vehicles I see with water ingress issues is enough to put any one off. Great if kept under cover and used on the odd sunny day, but otherwise a solid roof would definitely be my choice.
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MX5 is the only answer. We have the occasional use of one and it makes you fall in love with driving again.
Rust is the only issue...
It is a big issue.
And they are very small inside.
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the MGF, which is much more comfortable for normal sized people and is just as much fun to drive.
But it all comes down to what you want the car for:
hooning about like a teenager means a small, low powered car like a Mazda or MG.
if you just want to cruise about sunburning your head then a Jag or Mercedes convertible is the tool of choice.
if you're the tool, you need a Porsche. It doesn't matter which, as you'll be launching it backwards through the scenery at some point.
Poor Albs ;D ;D
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"Sports car" means different things to different people.
To some, a hot hatch will tick the box, for others a Honda S2000, and there is clearly a market for the BMW Z4, which is probably a hoot in 3.0 manual form. And one I had forgotten about from my list. The MGF was also omitted, by accident, as it has never been on my list of cars :-\
If you ask a hundred different people what their perceived ideal 'sports car' is, you'll probably be given seventy different answers and the majority will be roadsters or rwd coupes. :y
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Nissan Z cars (350Z & 370Z) seem to have an enthusiastic following.
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I've never had a sports car. I'm not a real petrolhead, but I have a bit of an itch to scratch.
Cars like midgets & MGBs, spirfires are fine, but actually a bit dull, and I'm not sure I'd fit into one. I certainly could not do any renovation.
Chrysler Crossfires are kind of ugly, but have an appeal. Quite cheap. Merc SLK under the bodywork I think. Enough Oooomph for me. Never sat in one or driven one, but they look quite roomy. Quite fancy a convertible auto, but I could live with manual and maybe hard top.
Any opinions amongst all you experts out there?
I think it was Clarkson who described the side profile of the Crossfire as similar to that of a dog taking a dump. ;)
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I've never had a sports car. I'm not a real petrolhead, but I have a bit of an itch to scratch.
Cars like midgets & MGBs, spirfires are fine, but actually a bit dull, and I'm not sure I'd fit into one. I certainly could not do any renovation.
Chrysler Crossfires are kind of ugly, but have an appeal. Quite cheap. Merc SLK under the bodywork I think. Enough Oooomph for me. Never sat in one or driven one, but they look quite roomy. Quite fancy a convertible auto, but I could live with manual and maybe hard top.
Any opinions amongst all you experts out there?
What is your budget?
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MX5 is the only answer. We have the occasional use of one and it makes you fall in love with driving again.
Rust is the only issue...
It is a big issue.
And they are very small inside.
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the MGF, which is much more comfortable for normal sized people and is just as much fun to drive.
But it all comes down to what you want the car for:
hooning about like a teenager means a small, low powered car like a Mazda or MG.
if you just want to cruise about sunburning your head then a Jag or Mercedes convertible is the tool of choice.
if you're the tool, you need a Porsche. It doesn't matter which, as you'll be launching it backwards through the scenery at some point.
Daughter drove me up to Manchester a few years ago in her MGF, to see Genesis at Old Trafford. Nice sunny day, top down, great band and good drive there and back. :y
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I've never had a sports car. I'm not a real petrolhead, but I have a bit of an itch to scratch.
Cars like midgets & MGBs, spirfires are fine, but actually a bit dull, and I'm not sure I'd fit into one. I certainly could not do any renovation.
Chrysler Crossfires are kind of ugly, but have an appeal. Quite cheap. Merc SLK under the bodywork I think. Enough Oooomph for me. Never sat in one or driven one, but they look quite roomy. Quite fancy a convertible auto, but I could live with manual and maybe hard top.
Any opinions amongst all you experts out there?
What is your budget?
That is the question...
Except the SLK 32, 911 and the Camaro, most of the cars on my list are available for sub £3k, but unless you are intending to buy a bit of project, buying the cheapest examples is a bad idea.
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My mate has had two Jag XK's.
A Mk1 like the one above that Al linked, which he called the Saggy Jag! ;D Probably for obvious reasons. ::)
And a Mk2 which is a massive improvement and if your budget allows is the one to go for. I didn't drive the Saggy Jag, but did the MK2 and it was superb! 8) :y
Jag XK Mk2 (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203213769172?sort=price-desc&make=Jaguar&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&include-delivery-option=on&radius=1500&postcode=dt73nb&price-to=10000&model=XK&advertising-location=at_cars&page=1)
PS: To be fair to the Saggy Jag it might have had a hard life! ::)
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My mate has had two Jag XK's.
A Mk1 like the one above that Al linked, which he called the Saggy Jag! ;D Probably for obvious reasons. ::)
And a Mk2 which is a massive improvement and if your budget allows is the one to go for. I didn't drive the Saggy Jag, but did the MK2 and it was superb! 8) :y
Jag XK Mk2 (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203213769172?sort=price-desc&make=Jaguar&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&include-delivery-option=on&radius=1500&postcode=dt73nb&price-to=10000&model=XK&advertising-location=at_cars&page=1)
PS: To be fair to the Saggy Jag it might have had a hard life! ::)
Oooooooooooo :D
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Oh dear, too many serious questions here.
My eye was caught by the Crossfire as I've seen a few locally in car parks etc. They're quite cheap, and quirky. £2,500-£5,000 gets one, and not a disaster if it doesn't work out. I could probably live with the different size tyres etc
MX5 is out, as is MGB, C and F, just too small for me.
Hot Hatchbacks and similar are out, just fast cars with no roof. And, I'm not a boy racer
Boxters? Would probably scratch that itch, but concerned about some serious bills. Seems there are some seals or something that can wreck engines. But . . . ::)
My dream car would be a TR4,5,6, but way too expensive and I'd actually need to look after it.
Mercs . . . . Hmmmm, maybe. Same with Jags, quite complex buggers though. Lots to go wrong
BTW . . . . . SWMBO knows nothing of this . . . . yet :-X
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She'll know when you land up with it, no arguments that way.
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The Crossfire is a rebodied SLK. Get underneath and they're pretty much identical ;)
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Thats the way I always do it. :y
Btw having driven a few TR6,s and they are utter shite. ;)
The scare story with Boxsters is the IMS bearing. Need to research engine numbers as only certain years were prone to it.
Even then, it was around 10% of them.
Very nice to drive though. Mid engined, so handling is superb, despite the twaddle NickW comes out with about them. ;)
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IMO Honda S2000. End of.
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yep, cracking little car. Or an MR2 of some description, if you want mid engined but want to avoid the rust bucket lump of shite known as the MGF.
The MR2 will probably rust too, but at least the mechanicals will be unburstable.
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S2000, Beautiful engine and box, always on the boil with the low gearing nice looking great handling extremely reliable, not too clever on juice but hey it’s a fun car👍 Mmm.,, may have talked myself into one for the summer :o
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yep, cracking little car. Or an MR2 of some description, if you want mid engined but want to avoid the rust bucket lump of shite known as the MGF.
The MR2 will probably rust too, but at least the mechanicals will be unburstable.
No they're not. The cat breaks up, and the pieces go back into the engine. Then you need a new one. Just like the hatchback it came from. And there's nowhere to put your shopping
S2000 - if you think an Omega needs regular, frequent constant geometry adjustments after expensive suspension work, you'll love one of these ;D Pretty but vicious, they're the spiritual successor of the Tr6 or Healey 3000, where Mx5 and MGFs replaced the Midget/Spitfire.
Boxsters - these leave a fascinating trail of oppsed aluminium components between the first hit, and wherever the disembowelled corpse ends up. The owner always repeats the phrase indoctrinated in him by the dealer every time they bent him over the credit card machine "I don't know what happened." We do, to quote the police crash-examiner Too much car, not enough driver. Compare that to the usual reaction of a TVR owner - "I knew I shouldn't have taken it out in the rain, but it's only fibreglass. I'll have it roughed in by the end of the weekend" :y
M3s - if the engine and/or SMG doesn't expire in a musically expensive way, you'll have a brown trouser moment when the rear suspension tears out of it.
Crossfire - let's take a mundane Merc, throw some ghastly styling at it, and build it down to American standards. Well down. Mopar standards :o How bad could it be?? A few poor deluded fools found out, but I bet you can't find one of them who will admit to it.
Maserati. Seriously???
Jag XK. Continued Jag's traditional slightly awkward looking, louche GT line. Also continued the curious engineering and lousy build quality. Watch out for reverse dents in the boot from unsecured golf clubs ::)
Jag F-type. A bizarre cross of updated Jag styling, 911 wannabe sportscar and AMG shoutiness. At least you don't need to worry about the dents as golf clubs don't fit.
Maserati. No I can't help it, I've got to put the boot in. Flashy, but useless. Expensive, but cheaply made. You don't need to buy one, but the receptionist demonstrates the idea: she's gorgeous but has an extended version of the builder's tape playing in her ear phones. Not only does it repeat in.....out...... over and over so she remembers to breathe, but hers has a reminder to swap the gum from side to side occasionally. And unlike what she had in her mouth last night, not to swallow.
Lexus. Wasn't there some sportiness required by the OP?
Z4. Who could possibly opps up the small two seat convertible appearance so badly? Germans, that's who. Not in the hysterically crass American low production way, but in the please gouge my eyes out before you kill me. Please, do it soon, I've looked at a Z4 way.
Ferrari. Garage jewellery. Weird Italian low production mechanicals scattered with Fiat bits for you to identify while you wait for the tow truck.
Aston Martin. Garage jewellery. Weird English low production mechanicals scattered with random bits for you to identify while you wait for the tow truck.
Alfa Romeo. Tarted up Fiat with an utterly unjustified superiority complex. Why would you? Why? ???
Lancia. Yes, they still make them for some reason. They being Stellantis, so it's either another tarted up Fiat, or a Chrysler with a hideous grille. Italian Mopars. Such a stupid idea.
Lotus. Somehow still in existence, building interesting stuff in a shed in Norfolk. Maybe the new Emetic will prove they've finally figured out how to build cars. Don't hold your breath, as they've had nearly 80 years to do it. And you'll be holding in all the chemicals given off by the fibreglass and glue which can't be good for you.
Alpine. Lotus equivalent, except the shed is in Dieppe.
New TVR. Not in any of our lifetimes.
American 'sports' cars: we'll pick on the Corvette. To paraphrase Churchill, they'll do the right thing when they've exhausted every other avenue. So now it has the fabulous LS(or whatever the designation is now) mid-mounted in a typically American styled body. Is it any good? Does that make any difference?
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Pug 306 convertible it is then... :D
Next...
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It's a simple equation, in my opinion. Fat bastard+sports car=NO! Clarkson needed to be physically extracted from some of the cars he shoehorned himself into, and he kept kneeing himself in the face.
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The Crossfire is a rebodied SLK. Get underneath and they're pretty much identical ;)
So that sounds like a good reason to avoid the ugly wannabe :)
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Its unclear what the OP wants.
A sports car as in a fast, well handling car?
A sports car as in a pure posing fanny magnet?
Top down option, or coupe?
OP has already stated the smaller cars are unsuitable, and that larger ones are more preferable, so I'm guessing more of a "look at me" type car rather than a fast, well handling car?
"Sports cars" mean different things to different people, so probably need a bit more clarity from the OP on requirements :)
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Pug 306 convertible it is then... :D
Next...
I have one of them and actually quite like it :y
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No they're not. The cat breaks up, and the pieces go back into the engine. Then you need a new one. Just like the hatchback it came from. And there's nowhere to put your shopping…….
Well you’re a real ray of sunshine this morning Nick. ;D
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Is there a car you like Nick?😂
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OP has already stated the smaller cars are unsuitable, and that larger ones are more preferable, so I'm guessing more of a "look at me" type car rather than a fast, well handling car?
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F33 430d bmw, hard top to convertible in a few seconds, and reasonably sporty and economical. Plus I recall TB saying how cool I looked whenever he see me in mine. :y 8)
I think that’s what he said anyway. ::) ;D
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Its unclear what the OP wants.
A sports car as in a fast, well handling car?
A sports car as in a pure posing fanny magnet?
Top down option, or coupe?
OP has already stated the smaller cars are unsuitable, and that larger ones are more preferable, so I'm guessing more of a "look at me" type car rather than a fast, well handling car?
"Sports cars" mean different things to different people, so probably need a bit more clarity from the OP on requirements :)
Budget doesn't change the list any except for newer or more exclusive/interesting cars... £5k buys a tidy SL350, £20k buys a nice previous generation 500/600SL, £30k will get a nice 80's 500SL or a nearly new one and £50k will buy something that even the Snowflakes will think is cool in a retro kind of way...
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No they're not. The cat breaks up, and the pieces go back into the engine. Then you need a new one. Just like the hatchback it came from. And there's nowhere to put your shopping…….
Well you’re a real ray of sunshine this morning Nick. ;D
Nick is well known for his optimistic perspective on life. ;) ;)
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I think deep down he is happy with his lot in life as long as it wasn't engineered in Germany. Or France*.
*Wine and cheese notwithstanding ;)
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Its unclear what the OP wants.
A sports car as in a fast, well handling car?
A sports car as in a pure posing fanny magnet?
Top down option, or coupe?
OP has already stated the smaller cars are unsuitable, and that larger ones are more preferable, so I'm guessing more of a "look at me" type car rather than a fast, well handling car?
"Sports cars" mean different things to different people, so probably need a bit more clarity from the OP on requirements :)
Is it just me?
Whenever I hear the word 'fanny' I always think of a hairy minge so beloved by butch dykes.
Whenever I hear the word 'pussy' I always think of a silky smooth delight. :-* :-* :-*
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It's just you :D
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It's just you :D
I'm guessing it's because fanny is an old female name, and also an old name for female 'bits'
.......and back in the day female bits were hairy. ;D
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It's just you :D
I'm guessing it's because fanny is an old female name, and also an old name for female 'bits'
.......and back in the day female bits were hairy. ;D
And both are American for arse ;D
Either way 'moist love pocket' are three words that should never be used together :-[
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Anyways, back on track, MB Gatwick have a very nice '68 plate E300 Convertible in the showroom for £30k. Suffice to say that I left it there ;D
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Saw another option for a posh rag top...
One of theses
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203073299251
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Not a "sports" car as such but a C70 T5 will get down the road well enough.Handling is a bit "floaty" but can be tightened up ample room inside although boot is a bit compromised.
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Saw another option for a posh rag top...
One of theses
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203073299251 (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203073299251)
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Did you post the correct link? ::)
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F33 430d bmw, hard top to convertible in a few seconds, and reasonably sporty and economical. Plus I recall TB saying how cool I looked whenever he see me in mine. :y 8)
I think that’s what he said anyway. ::) ;D
Your hearing is improving, because what I called you began with C....
;D
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Told you you are softening up :o
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Saw another option for a posh rag top...
One of theses
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203073299251 (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203073299251)
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Did you post the correct link? ::)
Yup ;)
The criteria seems to be a posh convertible for posing in. May as well do it with some class...
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Saw another option for a posh rag top...
One of theses
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203073299251 (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203073299251)
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Did you post the correct link? ::)
Yup ;)
The criteria seems to be a posh convertible for posing in. May as well do it with some class...
I don't think antique was in the criteria though? :-\ :P ;D
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Saw another option for a posh rag top...
One of theses
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203073299251 (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203073299251)
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Did you post the correct link? ::)
Yup ;)
The criteria seems to be a posh convertible for posing in. May as well do it with some class...
An E-class?? That's classy in the same way that a Vauxhall's Merit trim level deserves a badge.
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I went coupe rather than convertible (having driven both lots). Very much love it and use it, don't regret the purchase at all
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Nice Astra Bertone 🤭
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Do you ever wish that you'd kept your mouth shut and not said anything? ::)
However, various questions arose and what leaped out at me was the fact that I don't actually drive much. Sometimes a week or even more go by and I don't get into the car. We have two cars. I drive mine now and again just to give it a run, I don't actually go anywhere.
Shopping? I walk
Pub or out for a meal? I walk
Bits & pieces? Walk
Stuff I can't get locally? Online & home delivery
I still love the idea of a sports car, but it would be a toy. I don't do my own repairs or tinkering, so that's out. Not interested in pulling or competing with boy racers. Not bothered about top speeds and 0-60 figures, my XC70 is enough for me. Posing? Who to? So, just because . . .
I've just talked myself out of the whole idea. Everybody's input is greatly appreciated.
BUT, if I saw a cheap Crossfire, I may well still just buy it, just for the hell of it ;D
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Nice jet ski perhaps🦑🌊
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Nice jet ski perhaps🦑🌊
Rog is a fellow Welshman, so maybe he needs a faster sheep? :P ;D
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I went coupe rather than convertible (having driven both lots). Very much love it and use it, don't regret the purchase at all
I had my mid life crisis in my twenties, but went down the 2 wheel route instead ;D
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Do you ever wish that you'd kept your mouth shut and not said anything? ::)
However, various questions arose and what leaped out at me was the fact that I don't actually drive much. Sometimes a week or even more go by and I don't get into the car. We have two cars. I drive mine now and again just to give it a run, I don't actually go anywhere.
Shopping? I walk
Pub or out for a meal? I walk
Bits & pieces? Walk
Stuff I can't get locally? Online & home delivery
I still love the idea of a sports car, but it would be a toy. I don't do my own repairs or tinkering, so that's out. Not interested in pulling or competing with boy racers. Not bothered about top speeds and 0-60 figures, my XC70 is enough for me. Posing? Who to? So, just because . . .
I've just talked myself out of the whole idea. Everybody's input is greatly appreciated.
BUT, if I saw a cheap Crossfire, I may well still just buy it, just for the hell of it ;D
All of which is perfectly understandable :).
I'm reading through that, and kinda thinking that you probably don't want a "sports car" (ie, sporty/fast/woman magnet) but actually fancy a specific car? In which case, go for it, its what you want, not a list of other people's personal desires.
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Do you ever wish that you'd kept your mouth shut and not said anything? ::)
However, various questions arose and what leaped out at me was the fact that I don't actually drive much. Sometimes a week or even more go by and I don't get into the car. We have two cars. I drive mine now and again just to give it a run, I don't actually go anywhere.
Shopping? I walk
Pub or out for a meal? I walk
Bits & pieces? Walk
Stuff I can't get locally? Online & home delivery
I still love the idea of a sports car, but it would be a toy. I don't do my own repairs or tinkering, so that's out. Not interested in pulling or competing with boy racers. Not bothered about top speeds and 0-60 figures, my XC70 is enough for me. Posing? Who to? So, just because . . .
I've just talked myself out of the whole idea. Everybody's input is greatly appreciated.
BUT, if I saw a cheap Crossfire, I may well still just buy it, just for the hell of it ;D
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Those are more or less my sentiments entirely, same here two cars which don't get used much wifey was interested in an MGF she saw locally a few months back, fortunately talked her out of it don't want to change either of ours & definitely don't want a third vehicle been there done that.
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Do you ever wish that you'd kept your mouth shut and not said anything? ::)
However, various questions arose and what leaped out at me was the fact that I don't actually drive much. Sometimes a week or even more go by and I don't get into the car. We have two cars. I drive mine now and again just to give it a run, I don't actually go anywhere.
Shopping? I walk
Pub or out for a meal? I walk
Bits & pieces? Walk
Stuff I can't get locally? Online & home delivery
I still love the idea of a sports car, but it would be a toy. I don't do my own repairs or tinkering, so that's out. Not interested in pulling or competing with boy racers. Not bothered about top speeds and 0-60 figures, my XC70 is enough for me. Posing? Who to? So, just because . . .
I've just talked myself out of the whole idea. Everybody's input is greatly appreciated.
BUT, if I saw a cheap Crossfire, I may well still just buy it, just for the hell of it ;D
If there is a crossfire for sale not too far away, do and sit in it and drive it. You'll either buy it or consider yourself a stupid git for ever considering it.
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You'll either buy it or consider yourself a stupid git for ever considering it.
Or consider yourself a stupid git, but buy it anyway because you fancy it...
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You only live once and if you can afford it, do it.
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I went coupe rather than convertible (having driven both lots). Very much love it and use it, don't regret the purchase at all
I had my mid life crisis in my twenties, but went down the 2 wheel route instead ;D
Never had the urge to go for two wheel death, lost to many people I know from them
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So did I, but it never stopped me. I think like a lot of things, once you get them under your skin they are there for good.
Ive been off them for over 10 years now, but still miss them.
Its hard to explain how quick and exciting a fast bike is to someone who hasnt ridden them.
The fastest of fast cars dont even come close for an adrenalin rush.
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I went coupe rather than convertible (having driven both lots). Very much love it and use it, don't regret the purchase at all
I had my mid life crisis in my twenties, but went down the 2 wheel route instead ;D
Never had the urge to go for two wheel death, lost to many people I know from them
It is indeed true that mistakes tend to hurt more. Whether or not those mistakes are your own, or from car drivers.
But when the weather is perfect, and the roads are good, cars don't even come close in the thrill stakes....
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So did I, but it never stopped me. I think like a lot of things, once you get them under your skin they are there for good.
Ive been off them for over 10 years now, but still miss them.
Its hard to explain how quick and exciting a fast bike is to someone who hasnt ridden them.
The fastest of fast cars dont even come close for an adrenalin rush.
I still have to cross the road when walking into town, so I cant see in the windows of the bike shop. As I know I could be so easily swayed.... ...although being more "mature", I suspect I wouldn't be drooling over the R1s or Fireblades now, but sometime a big engine but less sports oriented.
I never went much on top end. In fact I've driven cars a lot faster than I've ridden bikes. I can't recall ever going much above 140 on a bike. Most of the time it was probably below a ton ish. But the rush coming off a roundabout and getting it to those speeds, and down again for the next roundabout, yeah, that works for me...
I was out with the useless student one day, I think we'd been for a particular pleasant ride around the Cotswolds, and was coming home on a dual carriageway. He was absolutely flat out on his GS, and I went sailing past him just as a car pulled into the outside lane. My back wheel was in the air, and the front, having run out of suspension, was bouncing on the road as I'm trying to shed at least 70mph. To this day I have no idea if i actually touched her bumper or not, but I know the silly bint was taught some new words as I got alongside her. All to tunnie's amusement. Bastid.
Those occasional reminders can be useful when you are so vulnerable.
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The Crossfire is an eclectic choice, but as said, it is your choice. Although the only reason not to buy an SLK it's that you don't like the way the outside looks or the top. The interior is identical.
I have considered buying a few of my suggestions, but thus far have resisted, although both SLKs and CLKs are cheap enough to be tempting.
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Similar here. Ridden R1,s Fireblades etc. and loved them. If I were to give in to temptation now it would probably be something like a 1200 Bandit.
Hard on the throttle out of 2nd or 3rd gear bends with the rear tyre squirming and begging for mercy cant be matched in a car.
Its the ultimate thrill imo.
I do sometimes think about all the near misses as Im dropping off to sleep at night, which helps dilute the temptation.
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Similar here. Ridden R1,s Fireblades etc. and loved them. If I were to give in to temptation now it would probably be something like a 1200 Bandit.
Hard on the throttle out of 2nd or 3rd gear bends with the rear tyre squirming and begging for mercy cant be matched in a car.
Its the ultimate thrill imo.
I do sometimes think about all the near misses as Im dropping off to sleep at night, which helps dilute the temptation.
Stupid old fool, stick to four wheels, bones don't heal very well at your age ;D
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Similar here. Ridden R1,s Fireblades etc. and loved them. If I were to give in to temptation now it would probably be something like a 1200 Bandit.
Hard on the throttle out of 2nd or 3rd gear bends with the rear tyre squirming and begging for mercy cant be matched in a car.
Its the ultimate thrill imo.
I do sometimes think about all the near misses as Im dropping off to sleep at night, which helps dilute the temptation.
Stupid old fool, stick to four wheels, bones don't heal very well at your age ;D
I have seen Smart cars fitted with Hayabusa engines and even turbo charged versions. ::) ::) :y
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Similar here. Ridden R1,s Fireblades etc. and loved them. If I were to give in to temptation now it would probably be something like a 1200 Bandit.
Hard on the throttle out of 2nd or 3rd gear bends with the rear tyre squirming and begging for mercy cant be matched in a car.
Its the ultimate thrill imo.
I do sometimes think about all the near misses as Im dropping off to sleep at night, which helps dilute the temptation.
Stupid old fool, stick to four wheels, bones don't heal very well at your age ;D
I have seen Smart cars fitted with Hayabusa engines and even turbo charged versions. ::) ::) :y
And?
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The dealer I bought my V8 Merc from has a 2005 crossfire on his website at the moment 1 lady owner & 74,000 miles with history, no price on it at present if you're interested have a look at MTSV.
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Don’t temp him damn it🔥 ;D
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Don’t temp him damn it🔥 ;D
No no no Rae! That's not what happens here! ::)
We egg people on to spend their hard earned on a ridiculous vehicle of some kind! :y ;D
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https://youtu.be/WOCBhjebuaY (https://youtu.be/WOCBhjebuaY)
I could be tempted by this tourer.
2500cc shared between just 3 cylinders suggests plenty of vibes, like a good British bike should have. :y
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Similar here. Ridden R1,s Fireblades etc. and loved them. If I were to give in to temptation now it would probably be something like a 1200 Bandit.
Hard on the throttle out of 2nd or 3rd gear bends with the rear tyre squirming and begging for mercy cant be matched in a car.
Its the ultimate thrill imo.
I do sometimes think about all the near misses as Im dropping off to sleep at night, which helps dilute the temptation.
Stupid old fool, stick to four wheels, bones don't heal very well at your age ;D
Most of my right knee seems to be trying to escape from my leg every time I put weight on it. ::) ;D
I really need to go and have a new one fitted, but its hassle, so Im putting it off.
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https://youtu.be/WOCBhjebuaY (https://youtu.be/WOCBhjebuaY)
I could be tempted by this tourer.
2500cc shared between just 3 cylinders suggests plenty of vibes, like a good British bike should have. :y
Yes me too! :y
Trouble is I'm as kanckered as Albs, so even if I managed to get my leg over it, my hips would lock into position once I got going and I wouldn't be able to put my foot down. :(
Being able to put your foot down when you stop is an essential skill for a biker! :D
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https://youtu.be/WOCBhjebuaY (https://youtu.be/WOCBhjebuaY)
I could be tempted by this tourer.
2500cc shared between just 3 cylinders suggests plenty of vibes, like a good British bike should have. :y
Never fancied one tbh. Something that big and cumbersome, might as well have a car.
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https://youtu.be/WOCBhjebuaY (https://youtu.be/WOCBhjebuaY)
I could be tempted by this tourer.
2500cc shared between just 3 cylinders suggests plenty of vibes, like a good British bike should have. :y
Never fancied one tbh. Something that big and cumbersome, might as well have a car.
Bikes are under covers for at least six months of the year anyway. I can't imagine many things worse than ploughing forwards in sub zero temperatures with the rain lashing your body and wondering if your hands will be able to move if you need to stop ;D
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I can't imagine many things worse than ploughing forwards in sub zero temperatures with the rain lashing your body and wondering if your hands will be able to move if you need to stop ;D
The riding gear has come a long long way since the early days. When I started riding motorbikes you wore just jeans, helmet, doc martins, gauntlets and a motorbike jacket if you were lucky. The crash helmets had no breathers in so they steamed up in foggy, frosty weather, so you lifted the visor to see where you were going. When you got to your destination you had frost on your knees and your eyebrows.
If I’d have been wearing modern gear when I had my accident I’m sure I’d have come out of it with less breakages. Going from 95mph to zero when your not still attached to the bike is quite painful when the adrenaline wears off. ;D
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https://youtu.be/WOCBhjebuaY (https://youtu.be/WOCBhjebuaY)
I could be tempted by this tourer.
2500cc shared between just 3 cylinders suggests plenty of vibes, like a good British bike should have. :y
I'm pretty sure that if I had any kind of bike, particularly a beast like that, I would be dead quite soon after ::)
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You'll either buy it or consider yourself a stupid git for ever considering it.
Or consider yourself a stupid git, but buy it anyway because you fancy it...
;D
I suppose I posted wondering if someone was going to tell me that a particular car would be a disaster to buy because the antikinetic retrodynamic declivity switch always failed resulting in total engine destruction and driver decapitation over 50mph.
I am prone to impetuous buys, I did have four Omegas ::)
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Anyway back to it… mitsubishi 3000gt V4. 1999 model with removable top👍😂
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Anyway back to it… mitsubishi 3000gt V4. 1999 model with removable top👍😂
V6, not 4.
Not that it matters, because these things were always garage queens. Think of them as Japanese Alfas, but without the styling.
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4+1/2 litre, no roof, plenty of space for someone with big bones ;D
(https://www.imcdb.org/i159397.jpg)
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Anyway back to it… mitsubishi 3000gt V4. 1999 model with removable top👍😂
V6, not 4.
Not that it matters, because these things were always garage queens. Think of them as Japanese Alfas, but without the styling.
Bloody hell Nick give me some credit, I own a real Mitsubishi😂 the 1999 version of the Vr-4 is the rarest and most sought after model which of course has the usual V6 twin turbo but this one has 320 bhp.
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Oh and four wheel steering they go well but are very heavy this one goes particularly well😱😱
https://youtu.be/IAi_EdmprYU
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Wrong link I meant this one🙄
https://youtu.be/-FewebsVQ90
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Oh and four wheel steering they go well but are very heavy this one goes particularly well😱😱
https://youtu.be/IAi_EdmprYU (https://youtu.be/IAi_EdmprYU)
When they're not waiting for the owner to afford the latest round of repairs.
Mitsubishi is Japanese for 'you won't believe how much the parts cost. Or how many you'll need. Or how often'
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Looked into buying a Shogun a few years ago , read owners comments & how much repairs cost ( especially the auto box) put me off completely, shame because I still really like the look of them.
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Oh and four wheel steering they go well but are very heavy this one goes particularly well😱😱
https://youtu.be/IAi_EdmprYU (https://youtu.be/IAi_EdmprYU)
When they're not waiting for the owner to afford the latest round of repairs.
And don’t I know it😂😂. However a few grand lot of work and every time I get it my Mitsubishi I come out smiling (and shaking)🤪
Mitsubishi is Japanese for 'you won't believe how much the parts cost. Or how many you'll need. Or how often'
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Oh and four wheel steering they go well but are very heavy this one goes particularly well😱😱
https://youtu.be/IAi_EdmprYU (https://youtu.be/IAi_EdmprYU)
When they're not waiting for the owner to afford the latest round of repairs.
And don’t I know it😂😂. However a few grand lot of work and every time I get it my Mitsubishi I come out smiling (and shaking)🤪
Mitsubishi is Japanese for 'you won't believe how much the parts cost. Or how many you'll need. Or how often'
And don’t I know it🤪😂 however a few grand a lot of work and my car is bullet proof (so far)👀 and running low/mid 11second quarters :y
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4+1/2 litre, no roof, plenty of space for someone with big bones ;D
(https://www.imcdb.org/i159397.jpg)
Fella round here has one of those. Sounds awesome! :y
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I’d love have a drive of that bet it’s great to get the crash box performing😂
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Going a little bigger…….
https://youtu.be/AW1PbVhjPNg
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4+1/2 litre, no roof, plenty of space for someone with big bones ;D
(https://www.imcdb.org/i159397.jpg)
Fella round here has one of those. Sounds awesome! :y
Lighter than an Omega too. :y
Bore and stroke measured in furlongs. ;D
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4+1/2 litre, no roof, plenty of space for someone with big bones ;D
(https://www.imcdb.org/i159397.jpg)
That would do it, job done :y
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4+1/2 litre, no roof, plenty of space for someone with big bones ;D
(https://www.imcdb.org/i159397.jpg)
That would do it, job done :y
Wish I had £1/4million to spend on a toy :y
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Looked into buying a Shogun a few years ago , read owners comments & how much repairs cost ( especially the auto box) put me off completely, shame because I still really like the look of them.
Used to always get Shoguns as hire cars on holibobs. Very, very hateful pieces of shite. Ride and performance of a LR Defender, though marginally more comfortable. Loads of them had shagged transfer boxes as well.
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Looked into buying a Shogun a few years ago , read owners comments & how much repairs cost ( especially the auto box) put me off completely, shame because I still really like the look of them.
Used to always get Shoguns as hire cars on holibobs. Very, very hateful pieces of shite. Ride and performance of a LR Defender, though marginally more comfortable. Loads of them had shagged transfer boxes as well.
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Glad I read owners reviews which were obviously correct judging by your experiences.
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Gatwick ran a fleet of them, some had 200k miles under them.
The thing is they require regular and frequent maintenance, which makes them expensive to own. So people don't bother and they fast become unreliable. Hence the reputation.
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Looked into buying a Shogun a few years ago , read owners comments & how much repairs cost ( especially the auto box) put me off completely, shame because I still really like the look of them.
Used to always get Shoguns as hire cars on holibobs. Very, very hateful pieces of shite. Ride and performance of a LR Defender, though marginally more comfortable. Loads of them had shagged transfer boxes as well.
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Glad I read owners reviews which were obviously correct judging by your experiences.
Shoguns aren't as good to drive as a Discovery, and are no more reliable. But unlike a Land Rover, fixing them is harder and paying for the parts is an eye-opener.
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Oh and four wheel steering they go well but are very heavy this one goes particularly well😱😱
https://youtu.be/IAi_EdmprYU (https://youtu.be/IAi_EdmprYU)
When they're not waiting for the owner to afford the latest round of repairs.
And don’t I know it😂😂. However a few grand lot of work and every time I get it my Mitsubishi I come out smiling (and shaking)🤪
Mitsubishi is Japanese for 'you won't believe how much the parts cost. Or how many you'll need. Or how often'
And don’t I know it🤪😂 however a few grand a lot of work and my car is bullet proof (so far)👀 and running low/mid 11second quarters :y
That is quick.
My Tata would run low twelves at Santa Pod although the terminal speed was 122 MPH.
Rear drive only so little grip or traction for the first 100 yards. :-\ :-\
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Yes I’ve done 1.6 second 64ft it really slingshots off off the line 4wd with limited slip diffs front and rear.
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Yes I’ve done 1.6 second 64ft it really slingshots off off the line 4wd with limited slip diffs front and rear.
I have old timeslip from Santa Pod...... 2.28 seconds for 60ft. :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
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Yes I’ve done 1.6 second 64ft it really slingshots off off the line 4wd with limited slip diffs front and rear.
I have old timeslip from Santa Pod...... 2.28 seconds for 60ft. :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
As someone not interested in speed, I had to Google the significance of the 60ft marker. I understand it now. :y
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The Jag certainly has the get up and go but the 4wd and lsd make a hell of a difference, only 1150 kg too and over 400bhp👍 my last visit was at Shakespeare but it’s closed now sadly🙁 they used to do some tractor pulling there too, some beautiful turbos on show there😂
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The Jag certainly has the get up and go but the 4wd and lsd make a hell of a difference, only 1150 kg too and over 400bhp👍 my last visit was at Shakespeare but it’s closed now sadly🙁 they used to do some tractor pulling there too, some beautiful turbos on show there😂
Above 60MPH it had almost endless grunt thus the relatively high terminal speed and the relatively slow ET. :y
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All dragstrips use 1ft rollout which is cheating. :)
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Nope glue only at Shakespeare not that I needed it
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Ahh yes didn’t know that… you’re correct not that it would matter much👀😂🤣
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Ahh yes didn’t know that… you’re correct not that it would matter much👀😂🤣
Rollout subtracts about 0.3-0.4 sec.
So a 12 second dead car/bike is really 12.3 ish. ;)
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Wow! Although I have a 60/100mph time of just under 4 seconds on par with Porsche GT2👍
(Not the new one)😱
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Yes I’ve done 1.6 second 64ft it really slingshots off off the line 4wd with limited slip diffs front and rear.
I have old timeslip from Santa Pod...... 2.28 seconds for 60ft. :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
As someone not interested in speed, I had to Google the significance of the 60ft marker. I understand it now. :y
Suddenly this whole thing seems to have lapsed into some alien language. I don't understand a word of it ???
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Yes I’ve done 1.6 second 64ft it really slingshots off off the line 4wd with limited slip diffs front and rear.
I have old timeslip from Santa Pod...... 2.28 seconds for 60ft. :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
As someone not interested in speed, I had to Google the significance of the 60ft marker. I understand it now. :y
Suddenly this whole thing seems to have lapsed into some alien language. I don't understand a word of it ???
Shallow staging will give you more rollout.....as will bigger front wheels and tyres. :)
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Yes I’ve done 1.6 second 64ft it really slingshots off off the line 4wd with limited slip diffs front and rear.
I have old timeslip from Santa Pod...... 2.28 seconds for 60ft. :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
As someone not interested in speed, I had to Google the significance of the 60ft marker. I understand it now. :y
Suddenly this whole thing seems to have lapsed into some alien language. I don't understand a word of it ???
If you do fancy a Crossfire, one thing that it does offer that the SLK doesn't, is a manual option for the 3.2 V6.
200+ bhp and a manual box will make for a pretty entertaining car 8)
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Yes I’ve done 1.6 second 64ft it really slingshots off off the line 4wd with limited slip diffs front and rear.
I have old timeslip from Santa Pod...... 2.28 seconds for 60ft. :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
As someone not interested in speed, I had to Google the significance of the 60ft marker. I understand it now. :y
Suddenly this whole thing seems to have lapsed into some alien language. I don't understand a word of it ???
If you do fancy a Crossfire, one thing that it does offer that the SLK doesn't, is a manual option for the 3.2 V6.
200+ bhp and a manual box will make for a pretty entertaining car 8)
I do quite fancy one
1. They're cheap
2. They're not one of the usual names
and . .
3. They're ugly bastards
::)
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Can't argue with any of that, although the interior is exactly the same as the SLK... Literally interchangeable ;D
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If you do fancy a Crossfire, one thing that it does offer that the SLK doesn't, is a manual option for the 3.2 V6.
200+ bhp and a manual box will make for a pretty entertaining car 8)
I do quite fancy one
1. They're cheap
2. They're not one of the usual names
and . .
3. They're ugly bastards
::)
Yes they're cheap and unusual, but I don't think they're that ugly? ??? I could live with one. :y
https://www.motors.co.uk/chrysler/crossfire/used-cars/
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I do quite fancy one
Thats enough of a reason :)
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Can't argue with any of that, although the interior is exactly the same as the SLK... Literally interchangeable ;D
Stop trying to put him off by telling him its really Mercedes crap ;D
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Can't argue with any of that, although the interior is exactly the same as the SLK... Literally interchangeable ;D
Stop trying to put him off by telling him its really expensive Mercedes crap ;D
FTFY TB! ;D
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If you do fancy a Crossfire, one thing that it does offer that the SLK doesn't, is a manual option for the 3.2 V6.
200+ bhp and a manual box will make for a pretty entertaining car 8)
I do quite fancy one
1. They're cheap
2. They're not one of the usual names
and . .
3. They're ugly bastards
::)
Yes they're cheap and unusual, but I don't think they're that ugly? ??? I could live with one. :y
https://www.motors.co.uk/chrysler/crossfire/used-cars/
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If you've an itch to scratch there's some reasonably cheapish ones amongst them.
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If you do fancy a Crossfire, one thing that it does offer that the SLK doesn't, is a manual option for the 3.2 V6.
200+ bhp and a manual box will make for a pretty entertaining car 8)
I do quite fancy one
1. They're cheap
2. They're not one of the usual names
and . .
3. They're ugly bastards
::)
Yes they're cheap and unusual, but I don't think they're that ugly? ??? I could live with one. :y
https://www.motors.co.uk/chrysler/crossfire/used-cars/
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If you've an itch to scratch there's some reasonably cheapish ones amongst them.
Used car prices are crazy.
A year or two ago I would see Signum's going for a few hundred. Now they are selling for £2000-£4000. :o :o :o :o
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Used car prices are crazy.
A year or two ago I would see Signum's going for a few hundred. Now they are selling for £2000-£4000. :o :o :o :o
WBAC are now offering me over a grand for my Mondeo! ;D
I forget now what their first offer was 6 months or so ago, but I was insulted! >:( Something like £550... :-\ ;D
EDIT: Just checked and they offered me £500 at the beginning of October last year.
So I think the moral of the story is to put your new car into WBAC as soon as you buy it, and maybe by the time you come to sell it they will have come up to a reasonable level. ::) ;D
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I paid £700 for Pierre nearly three years ago. When I reinsured it a few weeks ago they valued it at £1925. ;D
Where is that box of Swan Vestas. :D
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I paid £700 for Pierre nearly three years ago. When I reinsured it a few weeks ago they valued it at £1925. ;D
Where is that box of Swan Vestas. :D
That is less than you paid for your tortoise. ::) ::) ::)
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I paid £700 for Pierre nearly three years ago. When I reinsured it a few weeks ago they valued it at £1925. ;D
Where is that box of Swan Vestas. :D
That is less than you paid for your tortoise. ::) ::) ::)
The tortoise is faster and more reliable than Pierre! :-X ;D
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This one certainly is…
https://youtu.be/i6nYWsXnl6M
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This one certainly is…
https://youtu.be/i6nYWsXnl6M
Yes always hold a tortoise facing away from you. I learnt that the hard way as a lad.... ::) ;D
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This one certainly is…
https://youtu.be/i6nYWsXnl6M
Gordon Keeble is much faster than Bertie. :)
Albitz could have saved himself £700 by winning a tortoise, much like winning a goldfish in a plastic bag. ;D ;D