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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: cornishtaz on 17 February 2007, 17:17:50
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Well went out to the barge today for a quick trip to Halfords in Swindon. Went to car turned key flat battery, jump started from wifes Astra. Got to halfords didn't have what I was after so started to return home. On pulling onto the A419 dual carriageway put my foot down to get past some slower cars only to look in my rear view mirror to see nothing but white smoke everywhere. The temp gauge read normwl and the car didn't cough os splutter so don't think its a head gasket. Pulled over in local industrial estate smoke still everywhere lifted bonnet to be met by more white smoke and an empty expansion tank. Soon after this a pool of hot water was forming under the car. The leak looks like its coming from the right rear of the engine(rear wheel drive so would be front right on front wheel drive). Had to catch a bus back home to collect the wifes Astra to tow the poor old barge back home.
Will be doing some diagnostic work on it tomorrow, hopefully just a burst hose.
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It is true that head gasket failure is rare on the V6, but fortunately if you are sure that you had white smoke coming out of the exhaust, that isn’t a good sign…. :(
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I'd say heater bypass valve. I've not had one fail but they're a common fault.
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It is true that head gasket failure is rare on the V6, but fortunately if you are sure that you had white smoke coming out of the exhaust, that isn’t a good sign…. :(
Reading it again, you didn't actually say the white smoke was coming out of the exhaust, just that it was behind the car while driving, in which case yes, HBV....
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maybe it's something that's catching?? Bird flu for Omegas???
fairly similar to my coolant loss issue taz....
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I'm off to Heathrow tomorrow to collect a complete set of pipes/./
IF they don;t turn out to be the same fault.... then I will very probably have a spare of whatever you need, including an HBV
if they turn out to be the same fault.... then we'd obviously have to obtain another......
if you could discover what it is TONIGHT, then I MIGHT be able to get one for you tomorrow when i collect my bits....
Max
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Chances of diagnosing tonight are pretty slim as I've got nowhere to carry out the work in the dark.
Not sure if the smoke was coming from exhaust as I was doing 70mph at the time so might have been coming from under the car but the steam from underbonnet and the pool of water was definately from the right rear.
Both head gaskets were changed 18 mnths ago and only 10'000
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Sorry to hear, but as others have said HBV sounds the likely culprit :(
Astra must of loved that....towing an omega ;D
On another note.....if you visit Halfauds in Swindon to get bit and pieces.....if you havent a TC for them....give me a shout.....if the bits are TC items id be only to happy to turn up and produce card :y
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Sorry to hear, but as others have said HBV sounds the likely culprit :(
Astra must of loved that....towing an omega ;D
On another note.....if you visit Halfauds in Swindon to get bit and pieces.....if you havent a TC for them....give me a shout.....if the bits are TC items id be only to happy to turn up and produce card :y
It was a bit scary at times as with no steering or braking assistance my wife was having a mare( she can't tow only had her licience for 1yr) the Astra stuggled a bit on the hills but was fine on the flat, braking was fun as well NOT.
I'll give you shout if I need anything.
Does anyone have pics of the rear of the engine showing the location of HBV and associated pipes
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Chances of diagnosing tonight are pretty slim as I've got nowhere to carry out the work in the dark.
Not sure if the smoke was coming from exhaust as I was doing 70mph at the time so might have been coming from under the car but the steam from underbonnet and the pool of water was definately from the right rear.
Both head gaskets were changed 18 mnths ago and only 10'000
Does sound like HBV then....personally i would ask Max to get you HBV if he can.....if its a pipe then it would amazing coincedence that its the same pipe that has gone on Max's if it is a pipe....so spare would be available....and you could always flog the uneeded HBV or keep it as a spare???
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Sounds good mate,
Max could you pick up some spares for me as well if you don't mind.
I've had parts from Henry before and he's a very pleasent chap to meet
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Does anyone have pics of the rear of the engine showing the location of HBV and associated pipes
Think theres a piccy of the rear of the engine sitting on a palet on here somewhere.....i'll have a look for it, if i find i'll post a link......but have a look around yourself too....you might find it b4 i do :y
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Does anyone have pics of the rear of the engine showing the location of HBV and associated pipes
Think theres a piccy of the rear of the engine sitting on a palet on here somewhere.....i'll have a look for it, if i find i'll post a link......but have a look around yourself too....you might find it b4 i do :y
See:
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1170625604/6#6
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Does anyone have pics of the rear of the engine showing the location of HBV and associated pipes
Think theres a piccy of the rear of the engine sitting on a palet on here somewhere.....i'll have a look for it, if i find i'll post a link......but have a look around yourself too....you might find it b4 i do :y
See:
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1170625604/6#6
Thats the one :y well done MJ :y
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Cheers for the pic got in an email will be very useful
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Does anyone have pics of the rear of the engine showing the location of HBV and associated pipes
Think theres a piccy of the rear of the engine sitting on a palet on here somewhere.....i'll have a look for it, if i find i'll post a link......but have a look around yourself too....you might find it b4 i do :y
See:
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1170625604/6#6
Thats the one :y well done MJ :y
;)
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Found the problem, the hose that goes from the block to the bottom of the HBV has a 1cm split in it. Max is kindly going to collect some spares from Henry for me.
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…another Omega with a healthy head gasket then ;D
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It was easy to spot once I got the rain scuttle out the way but what a bugger to get out as it had one of those spring type hose clips on it which you couldn't get the pliers too ended up having to slowly and carefully lever it off.
Will be using the screw type hose clip when I refit it.
The culprit
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/cornishtaz/2007_0218Image0005.jpg)
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well done mate a bit of a relief for ya.
these jobs done by other people certainly help out a lot !
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Parts Collected and awaiting your pleasure sir.....
Glad to be of service.
Max
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Parts Collected and awaiting your pleasure sir.....
Glad to be of service.
Max
Cheers mate will see you tomorrow
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Not uncommon for that one to fail...
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well I have a complete set of all of them..... in addition to the one for CornishTaz's :D
any takers on the odds of both our coolant pipe failures being the same pipe?
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well I have a complete set of all of them..... in addition to the one for CornishTaz's :D
any takers on the odds of both our coolant pipe failures being the same pipe?
Highly possible. Failing that, the throttle body warming one that goes round there...
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Well the Omega lives on
Thanks to Henry for the parts
Thanks to Max for collecting them and nice to meet you
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Likewise mate... Glad to have helped out.
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Likewise mate... Glad to have helped out.
You got your coolant leak sorted then?
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No, That's happening tomorrow. "need smiley for Crossed fingers and a hopeful demeanour"
I have been running about in the 106 for a week..... it's just desserts really for taking the piss out of the Rover......
needless to say that I'm going to take the long way home on Saturday night :D , give it something of a "shake down" run.
As I'm about and sober, I could probably do a couple of taxi runs to hotels at the end of the day.......