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Re: Bloody speaker
« Reply #15 on: 31 March 2009, 09:17:14 »

Everytime I've measured from HU with speaker end end either shorted or open, its been fine (pre bose that was), so in the realms of changing parts willy-nilly now.
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Re: Bloody speaker
« Reply #16 on: 31 March 2009, 10:23:49 »

Do you have seperate tweeters in the front?

Where is it located?

Does that cut out also?
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Re: Bloody speaker
« Reply #17 on: 31 March 2009, 10:38:46 »

Use Tech2 to carry out a speaker function test whilst opening and closing the door.

I suspect a broken/damaged wire in the door loom
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Re: Bloody speaker
« Reply #18 on: 31 March 2009, 10:40:02 »

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Do you have seperate tweeters in the front?

Where is it located?

Does that cut out also?

All Omegas do  :y

There mounted in the door over the door mirror mounst on pre 2000 models and by the door hanlde on 200 onwards cars
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Re: Bloody speaker
« Reply #19 on: 31 March 2009, 10:47:49 »

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Do you have seperate tweeters in the front?

Where is it located?

Does that cut out also?

All Omegas do  :y

There mounted in the door over the door mirror mounst on pre 2000 models and by the door hanlde on 200 onwards cars

One of the disadvantages of not owning an Omega !!  :-[

If the problem is as intermittant as suspected, the Tech2 speaker test may not actually show anything up.

Does the wiring come through the door and then split to the tweeter / crossover and to the mid speaker inside the door, or does it split in the car and come through as two pairs of cables?

Knowing if the tweeter also cuts out is going to be key to the next bit of diagnosis   :-?
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« Reply #20 on: 31 March 2009, 10:51:13 »

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Do you have seperate tweeters in the front?

Where is it located?

Does that cut out also?

All Omegas do  :y

There mounted in the door over the door mirror mounst on pre 2000 models and by the door hanlde on 200 onwards cars

One of the disadvantages of not owning an Omega !!  :-[

If the problem is as intermittant as suspected, the Tech2 speaker test may not actually show anything up.

Does the wiring come through the door and then split to the tweeter / crossover and to the mid speaker inside the door, or does it split in the car and come through as two pairs of cables?

Knowing if the tweeter also cuts out is going to be key to the next bit of diagnosis   :-?

Splits in the door.

Direct to the mid range unit and then via a simple cap/inductor 3rd order filter to the tweeter
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Re: Bloody speaker
« Reply #21 on: 31 March 2009, 11:08:16 »

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Do you have seperate tweeters in the front?

Where is it located?

Does that cut out also?

All Omegas do  :y

There mounted in the door over the door mirror mounst on pre 2000 models and by the door hanlde on 200 onwards cars

One of the disadvantages of not owning an Omega !!  :-[

If the problem is as intermittant as suspected, the Tech2 speaker test may not actually show anything up.

Does the wiring come through the door and then split to the tweeter / crossover and to the mid speaker inside the door, or does it split in the car and come through as two pairs of cables?

Knowing if the tweeter also cuts out is going to be key to the next bit of diagnosis   :-?

Splits in the door.

Direct to the mid range unit and then via a simple cap/inductor 3rd order filter to the tweeter

So if the tweeter still runs, you can eliminate the connector in the door / A post and 99% of the cabling

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Re: Bloody speaker
« Reply #22 on: 31 March 2009, 11:12:26 »

Yep  :y
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Re: Bloody speaker
« Reply #23 on: 31 March 2009, 13:02:29 »

tweeter cuts out at same time.

Never got T2 to hand when it does it.

Opening/closing door doesn't seem to affect it, and when its working, playing with cable between A post and door doesn't seem to affect it either.
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Re: Bloody speaker
« Reply #24 on: 31 March 2009, 16:59:48 »

to me it seems that wire problem must be between the door and kickwell as the door is the only moving part in the equation. so I go back to my earlier suggestion of replacing the wire from the speaker to about 6 inches inside the car,  as the wire moves for 1st 3 or 4 inches inside the car as you open and shut the door.
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Re: Bloody speaker
« Reply #25 on: 31 March 2009, 17:30:36 »

I'm half tempted to nick a knackered door off one of the breakers for a week or 2 and just swap the entire door over for a while to see where fault lies.  Damn sight easier than buggering about with looms.
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Re: Bloody speaker
« Reply #26 on: 31 March 2009, 21:17:59 »

The door change is not a great idea. :( Firstly your car will look crap for a week or 2  :(. Secondly if the wiring error is in the door fine to a point, but if it is in the kickwell then it's a waste of time  :o.

The hardest part of the wiring jump on the loom which I suggested previously is removing the trim from door and kickwell, the rest is easy.  :y

I need to meet with you, hopefully over this weekend, to arrange tech 2 recoding of my ccr 2006, we can look at your speaker problem at the same time if you like  :y
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Re: Bloody speaker
« Reply #27 on: 31 March 2009, 21:27:56 »

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The door change is not a great idea. :( Firstly your car will look crap for a week or 2  :(. Secondly if the wiring error is in the door fine to a point, but if it is in the kickwell then it's a waste of time  :o.

The hardest part of the wiring jump on the loom which I suggested previously is removing the trim from door and kickwell, the rest is easy.  :y

I need to meet with you, hopefully over this weekend, to arrange tech 2 recoding of my ccr 2006, we can look at your speaker problem at the same time if you like  :y
ah, but its dead easy to then tell if its the door loom or not ;)
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Re: Bloody speaker
« Reply #28 on: 31 March 2009, 21:32:55 »

But I think it is in the middle somewhere as door doesn't move, neither does the kickwell, it is the bits in the middle and slightly each side that move, oh and the hinges ;)
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Re: Bloody speaker
« Reply #29 on: 31 March 2009, 21:42:01 »

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But I think it is in the middle somewhere as door doesn't move, neither does the kickwell, it is the bits in the middle and slightly each side that move, oh and the hinges ;)
opening and closing door doesn't appear to affect the speaker, nor does wiggling loom between door and a post...
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