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[The Barge Captain]

Just stumbled across tonight's BBC4 about the new A1 class tornado.  I don't know much about steam but hats off to those guys.  Would like to have seen something more in depth about that project.

[Kevin Wood]

Just stumbled across tonight's BBC4 about the new A1 class tornado.  I don't know much about steam but hats off to those guys.  Would like to have seen something more in depth about that project.

It was very interesting. Uncanny how difficult some things have become when only a generation ago ordinary men were doing them in depots all over the country.

Kevin

[Marks DTM Calib]

I remember seeing this scene when visiting the football many moons ago

[Humpy]

Lizzie,

There is a survivor of the Warship Class, Onslaught currently based at the Diesel and Electric Preservation Groups HQ at Williton on the West Somerset Railway.

We had a trip to the WSR's Autumn Gala a few weeks ago and part of the special events are the steam workshops and diesel workshops at Minehead and Williton are open for inspection which are very very interesting. There's some flippin' great engines being built in the diesel workshop

I've been interested in choo choos for years now and am a member of various preserved railway lines. I've also had an awful lot of ribbing about my interests but I don't care. There's something very peacefull about the avarage railway enviroment, I think it's because it harks back to a time when thinks weren't so hectic. Nostalgia I think it's called!!!

Humpy

[Marks DTM Calib]

I stand corrected Lizzie .

Don

   

Ok Don, but it is great to know there is yet another oof member who is interested in the great British steam railway of the past and the wonderful progress that the modern railway preservation movement has made

So many great locomotives have been saved by determined passion, much money along with tremendously hard work, sweat and tears which included the rescue of about 213 locomotives out of a peak of about 225 collected together at the famous Barry scrapyard of Dai Woodham (God rest this wonderful man's soul) by 1968.  Although still a fair percentage have still to be restored to working condition, they are still around and every so often another appears like a phoenix rising from the literal ashes of the past.

The next example of this is GWR "Castle" Class 5043 "Earl of Mount Edgcumbe to be soon steamed at Tysley, by 25th October all be in well, after last hauling a train on the 16th December 1963, spending 9 years 2 months at Barry before being purchased for preservation in 1972.  Yet another fine example of pure grit and detirmination to keep great engines alive!  8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

I wonder if a vast amount of our miggies will still exist in 40 years time due to preservationists? :-? :-?

Dai Woodham was a truely great man and one who truely desereved his MBE!

To be willing to sell these engines for preservation at scrap prices rather than milk the interest has resulted in so much of these great units being preserved.

Could you see the likes of Simon Cowell etc doing that!

[Mr Skrunts]

I remember seeing this scene when visiting the football many moons ago

Might that football ground be Millmoor (Rotherham)

[Marks DTM Calib]

I remember seeing this scene when visiting the football many moons ago

Might that football ground be Millmoor (Rotherham)

No, that scene is of Vic Berries in Leicester which was just off the old great central line (they kept a spur to the scrap yard open even after the main line was torn up)

[Humpy]

The funny thing about Dai Woodham was, that he always said that he wasn't a railway enthusiast and that the only reason he didn't scrap all of his loco's was purely business orientated not sentiment! As was mentioned in one of the programs, it was easier to scrap wagons and coaches than big heavy locos!

He didn't let the preservationists off lightly either as when the price of scrap started to go up in the early 70's the price to the preservationists went up as well!

That said, the preserved railways would be a lot thinner on the ground than they are today if it wasn't for Dai.

Humpy

[Marks DTM Calib]

The funny thing about Dai Woodham was, that he always said that he wasn't a railway enthusiast and that the only reason he didn't scrap all of his loco's was purely business orientated not sentiment! As was mentioned in one of the programs, it was easier to scrap wagons and coaches than big heavy locos!

He didn't let the preservationists off lightly either as when the price of scrap started to go up in the early 70's the price to the preservationists went up as well!

That said, the preserved railways would be a lot thinner on the ground than they are today if it wasn't for Dai.

Humpy

Sounds only fair to me....he was at the end of the day a buisness man!

He spent most of his time scrapping trucks which were easier to strip down and saved the locos for a rainy day  

[Varche]

Ah Vic Berries. Remember it well from Swain street bridge.  You could see clouds of presumably asbestos dust coming out of the carriages as they were being broken up. In the days before health and safety.
The site is all houses now and has been for quite a few years. I wonder how much cleaning up of the site was actually done before building?

Cracking good programme on the building of Tornado. Maybe there is enough interest around to have a Television channel. They could also show those episodes of "garden railway" and the journeys on Swiss railways programmes!

varche

Have yet to find a preserved steam anything in Spain! I believe there is a working line in the Rio Tinto mines in Huelva province in Andalucia that takes tourists to see what I think is the largest open cast hole in the world.

[The Red Baron]

I went to barry scrapyard a couple of times but in the 80`s so not many left by then,  had a strange air of sadness about the place. there wouldnt be much around now if he hadnt hung on to them. well done Dia.  

[Marks DTM Calib]

Ah Vic Berries. Remember it well from Swain street bridge.  You could see clouds of presumably asbestos dust coming out of the carriages as they were being broken up. In the days before health and safety.
The site is all houses now and has been for quite a few years. I wonder how much cleaning up of the site was actually done before building?

Cracking good programme on the building of Tornado. Maybe there is enough interest around to have a Television channel. They could also show those episodes of "garden railway" and the journeys on Swiss railways programmes!

varche

Have yet to find a preserved steam anything in Spain! I believe there is a working line in the Rio Tinto mines in Huelva province in Andalucia that takes tourists to see what I think is the largest open cast hole in the world.

Yup, fair distance fom Swain Street though(which is over the midland line). The houses there are quite recent, they dug one hell of a lot of soil out before building them!

[Martin_1962]

I remember seeing this scene when visiting the football many moons ago

Looks like Vic Berrys lots of Rats & McRats

[Martin_1962]

Lizzie,

There is a survivor of the Warship Class, Onslaught currently based at the Diesel and Electric Preservation Groups HQ at Williton on the West Somerset Railway.

We had a trip to the WSR's Autumn Gala a few weeks ago and part of the special events are the steam workshops and diesel workshops at Minehead and Williton are open for inspection which are very very interesting. There's some flippin' great engines being built in the diesel workshop

I've been interested in choo choos for years now and am a member of various preserved railway lines. I've also had an awful lot of ribbing about my interests but I don't care. There's something very peacefull about the avarage railway enviroment, I think it's because it harks back to a time when thinks weren't so hectic. Nostalgia I think it's called!!!

Humpy

THat is the class 42 version the BB Swindon built ones based on a German loco.

D601 was an NBL A1A A1A and had the unique NBL styling 5 built AFAIK (41 was reserved for it)

There was an NBL version of the BB as well - all scrapped 43 was reserved for them - 43 now belongs to the HST power cars

[Martin_1962]

Ah Vic Berries. Remember it well from Swain street bridge.  You could see clouds of presumably asbestos dust coming out of the carriages as they were being broken up. In the days before health and safety.
The site is all houses now and has been for quite a few years. I wonder how much cleaning up of the site was actually done before building?

Cracking good programme on the building of Tornado. Maybe there is enough interest around to have a Television channel. They could also show those episodes of "garden railway" and the journeys on Swiss railways programmes!

varche

Have yet to find a preserved steam anything in Spain! I believe there is a working line in the Rio Tinto mines in Huelva province in Andalucia that takes tourists to see what I think is the largest open cast hole in the world.

While you have time go to Portugal and look for CP1800 class and CP1400 class, both are English Electric the CP1400 is class 20 based and the CP1800 is basically a class 50