Topic: which one? (Read 2059 times)

C2raig · « **on:** 05 September 2010, 22:43:36 »

I'm looking for an Omega for hurtling up and down to France.

I'd prefer a V6, which leaves me with the options of a 2.5, a 2.6, a 3.0 or a 3.2. Fuel is on expenses but I don't want it to be TOO thirsty. I'd also consider a 2.2, but not a 2.0, I don't think the 2.0 is powerful enough for me.

What would our experts recommend?

Automatic is a total must, and I'd like spec, air con and cruise are essential and I have up to a grand (GBP) to spend.

Much appreciate any advice.

Thanks,

Craig

Entwood · « **Reply #1 on:** 05 September 2010, 22:47:44 »

I put a fairly long answer in the "welcome post" .... but basically .. V6 and LPG it

LPG (GPL) readily avaialble in France

C2raig · « **Reply #2 on:** 05 September 2010, 22:56:12 »

I'll stick to posts here, being as this is the correct place.

Only concern is re Chunnel for LPG.

Does LPG compromose reliability with a V6? I need something that'll perform as solidly as my Citroen has flat out on the Autoroutes. One breakdown could cost me my position so I need to minimise the odds?

freddy69 · « **Reply #3 on:** 05 September 2010, 23:01:17 »

ive had the 1999 2.5 v6 cd for 8 years before i crashed it and i was married to that car,she never let me down once in all the time i had her on the road.ive now got a 2.5 cdx that cost me 800 quid 2 weeks ago

Entwood · « **Reply #4 on:** 05 September 2010, 23:06:59 »

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I'll stick to posts here, being as this is the correct place.

Only concern is re Chunnel for LPG.

Does LPG compromose reliability with a V6? I need something that'll perform as solidly as my Citroen has flat out on the Autoroutes. One breakdown could cost me my position so I need to minimise the odds?

LPG not allowed on the chunnel

Reliability not affected at all . I've had mine LPG'd for over 2 years / 26000 miles .... not a problem. In fact the oil when it comes out is far cleaner than when running on petrol.

Theoretically the ignition system must be kept in tip-top condition as LPG is "harder" to ignite than petrol, but normal, regular servicing seems to keep everything running nicely..

HTH

davethediver · « **Reply #5 on:** 05 September 2010, 23:09:08 »

No LPG on the tunnel, you learn something new everyday, take it i could still use a ferry?

C2raig · « **Reply #6 on:** 05 September 2010, 23:12:26 »

Looks like I'll be ruling gas out. Nice thought though!

What sort of economy can I expect from a V6 auto?

Also, facelift or early model?

Apart from different engines, ie 2.5 vs 2.6 are there any other differences?

tidla · « **Reply #7 on:** 05 September 2010, 23:13:48 »

if i lived closer to the auction,had long long journeys etc..

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230519659108&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

once your away auto makes no odds

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #8 on:** 05 September 2010, 23:15:44 »

The later models are slightly bigger and are drive by wire, not THAT much more power due to lower compression.

Any of the V6s if maintained well should be fine, but get one thoroughly checked over by an expert.

They tend to play up gradually rather than leave you stranded

C2raig · « **Reply #9 on:** 05 September 2010, 23:19:45 »

Playing up I can live with, the Citroen plays up.

Auto is really for Paris rush hour, plus I detest changing my own cogs, stirring soup.

Ploppy · « **Reply #10 on:** 05 September 2010, 23:23:52 »

Hi,

I drive a 3.2 manual , get 420 miles a tank of unleaded petrol if that helps

Ploppy

tidla · « **Reply #11 on:** 05 September 2010, 23:24:33 »

i dont own one but the 2.6 s seem to suffer from valve stem seal failure making them use oil on start up from what i have read on here?

C2raig · « **Reply #12 on:** 05 September 2010, 23:27:49 »

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Hi,

I drive a 3.2 manual , get 420 miles a tank of unleaded petrol if that helps

Ploppy

How much is a full tank?

Cheers

freddy69 · « **Reply #13 on:** 05 September 2010, 23:34:04 »

the 2.5 v6 cd auto is the one to have.it takes about 100-120 quid to fill the tank.the only one problem ive had with mine is the rocker gaskets

humbucker · « **Reply #14 on:** 05 September 2010, 23:36:15 »

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the 2.5 v6 cd auto is the one to have.it takes about 100-120 quid to fill the tank.the only one problem ive had with mine is the rocker gaskets

my 3.0 only takes 80/85 quid to fill up?!

C2raig · « **Reply #15 on:** 05 September 2010, 23:36:49 »

What sort of spec difference is there between CD, CDX, and Elite models?

freddy69 · « **Reply #16 on:** 05 September 2010, 23:37:40 »

out of 80 quid i would get 3/4 of a tank :-/

humbucker · « **Reply #17 on:** 05 September 2010, 23:38:01 »

elite is the one with all the bells and whistles, everything you could wish for basically.

humbucker · « **Reply #18 on:** 05 September 2010, 23:39:30 »

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out of 80 quid i would get 3/4 of a tank :-/

i dont understand that... doesnt the omega have a 75 litre tank? if youre paying £120 a tank that means youre paying £1.60 a litre? i dont think things are that bad at the pumps (yet!)

freddy69 · « **Reply #19 on:** 05 September 2010, 23:40:43 »

cd has air con abs power steering and thats about it.
cdx has got sunroof and wood trim.
elite is all singin all dancin leather interia,rear spoiler,better alloys

tidla · « **Reply #20 on:** 05 September 2010, 23:42:12 »

for a long trip the elite has cruise control (very useful for mpg) and sat nav. interior self dimming mirrors so you can ignore the vertebrea from behind and (a rear window blind)a 4cd changer when it works.

freddy69 · « **Reply #21 on:** 05 September 2010, 23:42:19 »

im in blackpool and its nearly that dear for a litre of fuel up here 130 a litre :-/

C2raig · « **Reply #22 on:** 05 September 2010, 23:44:12 »

The following for me are essential:

Auto box
Cruise control
Air con

What else can I expect from a CD/CDX/Elite?

Much appreciate all the help, although I've been into Vauxhalls, Omegas are new territory for me.

freddy69 · « **Reply #23 on:** 05 September 2010, 23:48:02 »

omegas were under rated when they was making them.if i had the chance to buy another car i wouldnt.
they go like a screamin rocket,there cumfy to drive and there relitivley reliable

C2raig · « **Reply #24 on:** 05 September 2010, 23:54:23 »

I got one, a knackered 1993 2.0 GLS, as an emergency courtesy car a while ago.

Even though it self destructed, and I was the last person to drive it, it was superb, I wasn't going to consider anything else.

Broomies Mate · « **Reply #25 on:** 06 September 2010, 00:27:55 »

Dont worry about the difference in spec.

Spend your money right and you'll have a GOOD 3.0 Elite. Dont bother with the 2.5..... you'll only beg for the 3.0 afterwards.

CD/CDX spec is nice, you'll get good comfort, but always see Elites and wish you had one.

It's not like you are spending 10k........ get the RIGHT car and you'll love it. Settle for something slightly less than the best and you'll regret it.

EDIT: Sorry to anyone who drives anything other than a 3.0 Elite, but you just dont have the real deal!

C2raig · « **Reply #26 on:** 06 September 2010, 00:31:45 »

Am I right in thinking the 3.2 was brought in to replace the 3.0 in facelift models?

Mr Skrunts · « **Reply #27 on:** 06 September 2010, 00:44:27 »

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Hi,

I drive a 3.2 manual , get 420 miles a tank of unleaded petrol if that helps

Ploppy

How much is a full tank?

Cheers

16.5 galls.

that makes your MPG 25.454545454545454545454545454545 on a full tank .

Depending on driving style and roads I would expect better than that.

Mr Skrunts · « **Reply #28 on:** 06 September 2010, 00:50:07 »

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Dont worry about the difference in spec.

Spend your money right and you'll have a GOOD 3.0 Elite. Dont bother with the 2.5..... you'll only beg for the 3.0 afterwards.

CD/CDX spec is nice, you'll get good comfort, but always see Elites and wish you had one.

It's not like you are spending 10k........ get the RIGHT car and you'll love it. Settle for something slightly less than the best and you'll regret it.

EDIT: Sorry to anyone who drives anything other than a 3.0 Elite, but you just dont have the real deal!

I agree, My GLS has done 24k less than my Elite and all I have done is put 4 new tyres on and change the cassette /radio for a cd/radio, then I bought the Elite and cant remember the last time I drove the GLS. (No toys, leather or sunroof) Sad really coz it's a cracking car.

Broomies Mate · « **Reply #29 on:** 06 September 2010, 00:50:25 »

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Am I right in thinking the 3.2 was brought in to replace the 3.0 in facelift models?

The 3.2 was brought in to meet more stringent emission controls whilst keeping power. It is commonly known that the 3.0/3.2 have no difference in 'real world' power. If anything the 3.0 will outperform the later 3.2, but this is marginal.

C2raig · « **Reply #30 on:** 06 September 2010, 00:59:17 »

I'm just thinking I'd prefer a facelift to an early model. I reckon it would cut more of a dash in my office car park, the later cars seem to have more presence.

Was the facelift fitted with the 3.0 and a slushbox? Must be a slushbox.

Broomies Mate · « **Reply #31 on:** 06 September 2010, 01:05:05 »

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I'm just thinking I'd prefer a facelift to an early model. I reckon it would cut more of a dash in my office car park, the later cars seem to have more presence.

Was the facelift fitted with the 3.0 and a slushbox? Must be a slushbox.

You'll struggle to find an Elite, be it Pre Facelift or Facelift with a Manual Tranny.

They (nearly) all have the lazybox you demand

EDIT: The Facelift model has a lovely arse, but the front looks like it needs a slap. IMO, obviously.

C2raig · « **Reply #32 on:** 06 September 2010, 01:14:01 »

For ages I preferred the pre facelift syling, and either were always going to outdo the Scorpio on looks, but of lat I much prefer the facelift.

I've had my fill of clutch pedals, as I'm sure you can appreciate, doing this many miles makes changing gear a bloody pain.

Also, what's the consensus on estates? Mostly hammered? I don't need an estate but if there's no major difference I'll have one.

davethediver · « **Reply #33 on:** 06 September 2010, 02:11:58 »

Have a lookie here http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1266867411

HTH maybe also worth a look at a 2.5TD with a chipped boxe of course

lightfj · « **Reply #34 on:** 06 September 2010, 09:39:20 »

I had a W reg 2.6 Elite on LPG some years ago. It was very reliable on gas - it developed other electrical problems due to seat heted elements intermittently failing . It went to France and back from Liverpool umpteen times and was excellent -just make sure gas installation is proper and certificated.
Good luck in your quest.

Agemo · « **Reply #35 on:** 06 September 2010, 09:44:21 »

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the 2.5 v6 cd auto is the one to have.it takes about 100-120 quid to fill the tank.the only one problem ive had with mine is the rocker gaskets

C2raig · « **Reply #36 on:** 06 September 2010, 10:01:33 »

Because of the Chunnel I'll be avoiding gas. The 2.6 Elite sounds good, wasn't aware that they did a 2.6 Elite.

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #37 on:** 06 September 2010, 10:04:33 »

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i dont own one but the 2.6 s seem to suffer from valve stem seal failure making them use oil on start up from what i have read on here?

Mine doesn't (any more)

C2raig · « **Reply #38 on:** 06 September 2010, 10:37:20 »

Its about 600 miles from my place in the UK to my place in France. Currently costs me around £80 in my C2, so I'd expect an Omega to do it for around £120 in a V6 Omega. That'd be perfectly acceptable and still leaves space in my expenses for flooring it.

joshwyatt · « **Reply #39 on:** 06 September 2010, 11:17:40 »

I created a quick guide to the facelift's here with some basic engine and trim info;

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1266867411

It only deals with the DBW engines, so the 2.2, DTI, 2.6 and 3.2

C2raig · « **Reply #40 on:** 06 September 2010, 11:26:24 »

Very helpful, thanks.

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