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[TheBoy]

Would it be possible to install this system into a 2002 cd with the standard cd player in it .

With a bit of minor rewiring, yes

You will need to replace the display with a GID or a CID, and this MUST be paired to the radio.  

[Danny]

so if i were to accquire a 2013, would it be re-sellable for profit?

I have a good, fully working, depaired, NCDC2013 that I intend to sell with the spare GID (or even CID if I can sort a small problem with it).

They fetch good money (esp with CID), but unless you are getting it dirt cheap, by the time you have 'sorted' it, probably not feasible.  Also, even if depaired, still needs to be paired to go in the car.


That aside, if its cheap enough, I may be interested

cheap enough like a tenner??

[TheBoy]

so if i were to accquire a 2013, would it be re-sellable for profit?

I have a good, fully working, depaired, NCDC2013 that I intend to sell with the spare GID (or even CID if I can sort a small problem with it).

They fetch good money (esp with CID), but unless you are getting it dirt cheap, by the time you have 'sorted' it, probably not feasible.  Also, even if depaired, still needs to be paired to go in the car.


That aside, if its cheap enough, I may be interested

cheap enough like a tenner??

yup, thats my idea of cheap enough

[Merlindriver]

The manual is really sketchy on the 2013 and its "security"device. The other radios all mention inputting codes to the radio if the power is disconnected but although I have a litle card with a code there is no mention of how to input it to the system - or even if it needs to be- in the event of disconnecting the battery.  It just says "refer to dealer" !

So if the battery goes flat or is disconected, what happens?

[hotel21]

The manual is really sketchy on the 2013 and its "security"device. The other radios all mention inputting codes to the radio if the power is disconnected but although I have a litle card with a code there is no mention of how to input it to the system - or even if it needs to be- in the event of disconnecting the battery.  It just says "refer to dealer" !

So if the battery goes flat or is disconected, what happens?

The 'security' is that the base unit and the display are paired to each other via a Tech2 (computer) normally only available to dealers.  There are, however, 4 available throughout the country via the OOF network.....  

[VXL V6]

The manual is really sketchy on the 2013 and its "security"device. The other radios all mention inputting codes to the radio if the power is disconnected but although I have a litle card with a code there is no mention of how to input it to the system - or even if it needs to be- in the event of disconnecting the battery.  It just says "refer to dealer" !

So if the battery goes flat or is disconected, what happens?

You don't need to input the code on the Siemens 1100/1500/2013/2015 units, the code is used in a slightly different way  

Disconnecting the battery shouldn't cause any issues with these head units.

[Danny]

confirmation on the last 2 posts, the siemens units are paired with the screens and therefor means they wont work if just removed from one vehicle and placed in another by means of theft, and when the battery dies or is disconnected, as soon as its got power again the system in its original car recognises the display unit its already paired with and works again without needing the code

my unit and screen decided to "die" one evening and the car was in the garage the following day for a seperate issue, they left the ignition on by accident and flattened the battery, upon recharge i was pleased to find the stereo and screen come back to life!

[GastronomicKleptomaniac]

TB, what sort of timescale would you be looking at, to sell the NCDC (and CID)? Also how much, would £500 be in the ballpark?

[TheBoy]

The manual is really sketchy on the 2013 and its "security"device. The other radios all mention inputting codes to the radio if the power is disconnected but although I have a litle card with a code there is no mention of how to input it to the system - or even if it needs to be- in the event of disconnecting the battery.  It just says "refer to dealer" !

So if the battery goes flat or is disconected, what happens?

To confirm what others have said, disconnecting battery will not cause you a problem.  The security on these is based around the entire Infotainment system (wanky word that Vauxhall use) - Radio/CD Changer/Display/Telematics (if fitted) - all being paired together.  System won't work if one part is removed, nor will it work if one part is replaced without depairing/repairing first.

[TheBoy]

TB, what sort of timescale would you be looking at, to sell the NCDC (and CID)? Also how much, would £500 be in the ballpark?

As soon as I get part of the CID back from Marks DTM, and I've fully tested it.

You are in the right ballpark