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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Viral_Jim on 09 October 2023, 09:17:12
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As we had some sun this weekend I tried to get one last cut of the grass in. Hadn't gone more than about 5 yards before the mower slowed, stopped and gave off some blue smoke, and a nice burning smell.
Stripped it apart, found the top part was full of dried dead grass. What a sh!tty design! Anyway, cleaned the commutator and the brushes up, hoovered out all the cr@p and put the motor back together.
Then this happened.... ;D
(https://imgur.com/gallery/TZTbvov)
https://imgur.com/gallery/TZTbvov (https://imgur.com/gallery/TZTbvov)
So, probably a new mower then. ;D question is, do I go with a new 240v one, or spend a bit more and get a compatible 18v one from Makita and not bother faffing with the cables every time I want to use it....
In truth I probably won't do anything for a bit, as it's not going to be required for a few months now.
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As we had some sun this weekend I tried to get one last cut of the grass in. Hadn't gone more than about 5 yards before the mower slowed, stopped and gave off some blue smoke, and a nice burning smell.
Stripped it apart, found the top part was full of dried dead grass. What a sh!tty design! Anyway, cleaned the commutator and the brushes up, hoovered out all the cr@p and put the motor back together.
Then this happened.... ;D
(https://imgur.com/gallery/TZTbvov)
https://imgur.com/gallery/TZTbvov (https://imgur.com/gallery/TZTbvov)
So, probably a new mower then. ;D question is, do I go with a new 240v one, or spend a bit more and get a compatible 18v one from Makita and not bother faffing with the cables every time I want to use it....
In truth I probably won't do anything for a bit, as it's not going to be required for a few months now.
the "warming light" "warning light" is on
"read the fault codes and report back " ;) >:D
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Then this happened.... ;D
(https://imgur.com/gallery/TZTbvov)
https://imgur.com/gallery/TZTbvov (https://imgur.com/gallery/TZTbvov) ....
Ooops! :o
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Cordless sounds like a great idea, but how many spare batteries will you have to get to cut the grass ::) :y
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Cordless sounds like a great idea, but how many spare batteries will you have to get to cut the grass ::) :y
Nah...petrol with a 7 litre V8 is what he needs to cut long grass. :)
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Nah...petrol with a 7 litre V8 is what he needs to cut long grass. :)
What's your weapon of choice M'lud? Must be something fairly chunky to keep your rolling acres under control...
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Nah...petrol with a 7 litre V8 is what he needs to cut long grass. :)
What's your weapon of choice M'lud? Must be something fairly chunky to keep your rolling acres under control...
Goats I should imagine... (https://youtu.be/J-4saCCZpBg?si=vr8ERiXZfXw8O5Vv)
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The battery ones just don't have enough power to get through the grass when its been left for a bit, a good old second hand Atco Admiral petrol would be my suggestion.
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I recently bought a second hand Mac Allister (B&Q own brand) petrol lawnmower which has a 125cc Briggs and Stratton engine, after my trusty old Bosch Rotak electric mower fell apart. :(
I've only used it once so far, but once I got going after faffing about filling it with petrol and getting it started, it mowed my lawn nicely and quicker with the wider deck. :y
Much heavier than the leccy mower though, and as it's not self propelled, mowing the lawn will be good exercise in future! :)
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I recently bought a second hand Mac Allister (B&Q own brand) petrol lawnmower which has a 125cc Briggs and Stratton engine, after my trusty old Bosch Rotak electric mower fell apart. :(
I've only used it once so far, but once I got going after faffing about filling it with petrol and getting it started, it mowed my lawn nicely and quicker with the wider deck. :y
Much heavier than the leccy mower though, and as it's not self propelled, mowing the lawn will be good exercise in future! :)
Hence the advice on the Atco, self propelled and the ES model has electric start :y
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I do like the idea of a petrol, but not sure I CBA with the maintenance etc that goes with it. Living as we do in suburbia, we have three lawns, but totalling only about 125m2. The size and weight of a petrol mower is more inconvenience than benefit in this scenario I feel. But the advice on Atco is noted and they had caught my eye as a good brand.
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The battery ones just don't have enough power to get through the grass when its been left for a bit, a good old second hand Atco Admiral petrol would be my suggestion.
Somewhat ignoring what I've just said - eBay provided this potential bargain and winter tinkering project. What do you reckon mrDTM?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225760100917?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=ar5po0l7tk6&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=D-AKHJpRS7-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225760100917?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=ar5po0l7tk6&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=D-AKHJpRS7-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY)
Assuming the seller means it's hunting, probably a decent carb clean/service would see it right... :-\
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Those B&S carbs do that when the diaphram thingie in the car splits a bit. Not a huge amount else that can go wrong, besides catastrophic failure.
And its an afternoon in the garage tinkering, without earache from the missus :)
Downside of older mowers, you have to stick to E5 petrol, which in my case means Tesco 99 stuff.
BTW, my "lawns" are tiny, but I would never be stupid enough to consider an electric mower. Battery strimmer and a petrol mower makes cutting the grass less than a 5 minute job.
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And we have a secret B&S saddo on the site, isn't that right Mr YZ250 ;D
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Well, I suppose we'll find out, I've bought it now... ;D
I had a look and whole new carbs can be had for £20-35 depending on how authentic you want them to be, and service kits for half that amount. I figure less than £50 I should have a very usable mower. :y
Good tip on the E5 Mr TB, I honestly wouldn't have thought of that. :).
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And we have a secret B&S saddo on the site, isn't that right Mr YZ250 ;D
;D ;D
This only came about when Mrs YZ got herself an allotment a few years back (given it up now). I have no interest in growing stuff and my knowledge of such things is zero, but because I’m a thoughtful hubby I mowed the large plot that she had for her. On one occasion the mower started playing up, so I stripped it apart, whacked a carb kit on it for less than a tenner and away it went. :y The chap on the next plot had seen me working on it and asked if I’d look at his broken Hayter Harrier, so I fixed that. Somehow word spread that I was the Go To man for fixing/servicing mowers, rotavators, strimmers, chainsaws and hedge trimmers. I had them lined up in my garage. It then progressed to servicing/repairing the school ride on mower, the Toro general mower and the cricket pitch cylinder mower. I eventually had to call a stop to it. ;D
Atco have been around for a million years so you should be ok with it. :y
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I have a Qualcast petrol mower and it is utter shit.
Won't pull the skin off a race pudding. Add in flimsy build quality and a plastic carb. I may look at a used 'old school' ATCO type mower suggested by Mark DTM.
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And we have a secret B&S saddo on the site, isn't that right Mr YZ250 ;D
;D ;D
This only came about...
Ah don't be so modest, you sound like a well credentialled expert to me. You can expect my call shortly ;)
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And we have a secret B&S saddo on the site, isn't that right Mr YZ250 ;D
;D ;D
This only came about when Mrs YZ got herself an allotment a few years back (given it up now). I have no interest in growing stuff and my knowledge of such things is zero, but because I’m a thoughtful hubby I mowed the large plot that she had for her. On one occasion the mower started playing up, so I stripped it apart, whacked a carb kit on it for less than a tenner and away it went. :y The chap on the next plot had seen me working on it and asked if I’d look at his broken Hayter Harrier, so I fixed that. Somehow word spread that I was the Go To man for fixing/servicing mowers, rotavators, strimmers, chainsaws and hedge trimmers. I had them lined up in my garage. It then progressed to servicing/repairing the school ride on mower, the Toro general mower and the cricket pitch cylinder mower. I eventually had to call a stop to it. ;D
Atco have been around for a million years so you should be ok with it. :y
when can I bring you my Atco? ;D It'll run of a fashion .... :-\
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I recently bought a second hand Mac Allister (B&Q own brand) petrol lawnmower which has a 125cc Briggs and Stratton engine, after my trusty old Bosch Rotak electric mower fell apart. :(
I've only used it once so far, but once I got going after faffing about filling it with petrol and getting it started, it mowed my lawn nicely and quicker with the wider deck. :y
Much heavier than the leccy mower though, and as it's not self propelled, mowing the lawn will be good exercise in future! :)
Hence the advice on the Atco, self propelled and the ES model has electric start :y
Yes this Mac Allister I have is pretty basic. No throttle or choke so runs at preset revs and has a little primer bulb to pump fuel into the carb. It retails new at about £230 so you get what you pay for I guess.
I'll see how I get on with it. :)
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Well, I suppose we'll find out, I've bought it now... ;D
I had a look and whole new carbs can be had for £20-35 depending on how authentic you want them to be, and service kits for half that amount. I figure less than £50 I should have a very usable mower. :y
Good tip on the E5 Mr TB, I honestly wouldn't have thought of that. :).
Genuine carb refurb kits are around a tenner delivered. Probably worth always having a spark plug and a clean air filter in stock - both should cost around £2-3 delivered each. It'll most likely have a metal blade, so hop that off at use a grander to put a good edge back on it. Change the oil (I use GM semi synth in mine, just because I had some). Nothing else to do really.
I change the oil in mine every couple of years, if I remember, and the plug when it stops working, and might remember to check the air filter every 5 years... ...just dont tell Al how much I abuse mine ;D
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And we have a secret B&S saddo on the site, isn't that right Mr YZ250 ;D
;D ;D
This only came about when Mrs YZ got herself an allotment a few years back (given it up now). I have no interest in growing stuff and my knowledge of such things is zero, but because I’m a thoughtful hubby I mowed the large plot that she had for her. On one occasion the mower started playing up, so I stripped it apart, whacked a carb kit on it for less than a tenner and away it went. :y The chap on the next plot had seen me working on it and asked if I’d look at his broken Hayter Harrier, so I fixed that. Somehow word spread that I was the Go To man for fixing/servicing mowers, rotavators, strimmers, chainsaws and hedge trimmers. I had them lined up in my garage. It then progressed to servicing/repairing the school ride on mower, the Toro general mower and the cricket pitch cylinder mower. I eventually had to call a stop to it. ;D
Atco have been around for a million years so you should be ok with it. :y
when can I bring you my Atco? ;D It'll run of a fashion .... :-\
Oi! There's a queue...
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And we have a secret B&S saddo on the site, isn't that right Mr YZ250 ;D
;D ;D
This only came about when Mrs YZ got herself an allotment a few years back (given it up now). I have no interest in growing stuff and my knowledge of such things is zero, but because I’m a thoughtful hubby I mowed the large plot that she had for her. On one occasion the mower started playing up, so I stripped it apart, whacked a carb kit on it for less than a tenner and away it went. :y The chap on the next plot had seen me working on it and asked if I’d look at his broken Hayter Harrier, so I fixed that. Somehow word spread that I was the Go To man for fixing/servicing mowers, rotavators, strimmers, chainsaws and hedge trimmers. I had them lined up in my garage. It then progressed to servicing/repairing the school ride on mower, the Toro general mower and the cricket pitch cylinder mower. I eventually had to call a stop to it. ;D
Atco have been around for a million years so you should be ok with it. :y
when can I bring you my Atco? ;D It'll run of a fashion .... :-\
Oi! There's a queue...
;D ;D
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Well, I suppose we'll find out, I've bought it now... ;D
I had a look and whole new carbs can be had for £20-35 depending on how authentic you want them to be, and service kits for half that amount. I figure less than £50 I should have a very usable mower. :y
Good tip on the E5 Mr TB, I honestly wouldn't have thought of that. :).
Genuine carb refurb kits are around a tenner delivered. Probably worth always having a spark plug and a clean air filter in stock - both should cost around £2-3 delivered each. It'll most likely have a metal blade, so hop that off at use a grander to put a good edge back on it. Change the oil (I use GM semi synth in mine, just because I had some). Nothing else to do really.
I change the oil in mine every couple of years, if I remember, and the plug when it stops working, and might remember to check the air filter every 5 years... ...just dont tell Al how much I abuse mine ;D
Is a grander a very posh grinder? ;)
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And we have a secret B&S saddo on the site, isn't that right Mr YZ250 ;D
;D ;D
This only came about when Mrs YZ got herself an allotment a few years back (given it up now). I have no interest in growing stuff and my knowledge of such things is zero, but because I’m a thoughtful hubby I mowed the large plot that she had for her. On one occasion the mower started playing up, so I stripped it apart, whacked a carb kit on it for less than a tenner and away it went. :y The chap on the next plot had seen me working on it and asked if I’d look at his broken Hayter Harrier, so I fixed that. Somehow word spread that I was the Go To man for fixing/servicing mowers, rotavators, strimmers, chainsaws and hedge trimmers. I had them lined up in my garage. It then progressed to servicing/repairing the school ride on mower, the Toro general mower and the cricket pitch cylinder mower. I eventually had to call a stop to it. ;D
Atco have been around for a million years so you should be ok with it. :y
when can I bring you my Atco? ;D It'll run of a fashion .... :-\
Oi! There's a queue...
;D ;D
See how the jobs can soon add up. ;D
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It's not called the neverending list for nowt ;D
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I assume there's no oil filter on these? I had a look on B&S but as far as I can tell the only ones they sell are for tractor mowers.
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I assume there's no oil filter on these? I had a look on B&S but as far as I can tell the only ones they sell are for tractor mowers.
Not to my knowledge. I just lift all four wheels on to bricks and undo the square drive plug in the blade well to dump the oil. :y
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It'll most likely have a metal blade, so hop that off at use a grinder to put a good edge back on it ……….
And remember to sharpen it equally both sides so that the blade doesn’t go out of balance, otherwise you end up with a vibrating mower. :y
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It'll most likely have a metal blade, so hop that off at use a grinder to put a good edge back on it ……….
And remember to sharpen it equally both sides so that the blade doesn’t go out of balance, otherwise you end up with a vibrating mower. :y
Big Vera would be chasing you around the garden asking for a ride ;D
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Downside of older mowers, you have to stick to E5 petrol, which in my case means Tesco 99 stuff.
When rebuilding the carb use the later non rubber gaskets, they run on anything then :y
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Good tip thank you :y
Picked it up tonight, nice chap who'd had it since new. Started from cold on the second pull but hunts as soon as you take it off choke. Definitely a little bit of tinkering to do, but obviously plenty of life left in the old girl yet.
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A blocked idle jet can often cause them to hunt, assuming this flavour has one.
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I assume there's no oil filter on these? I had a look on B&S but as far as I can tell the only ones they sell are for tractor mowers.
Not to my knowledge. I just lift all four wheels on to bricks and undo the square drive plug in the blade well to dump the oil. :y
I've learnt something - I've always tipped mine upside down so it comes out of the filler ;D
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It'll most likely have a metal blade, so hop that off at use a grinder to put a good edge back on it ……….
And remember to sharpen it equally both sides so that the blade doesn’t go out of balance, otherwise you end up with a vibrating mower. :y
I sort of balance mine on a screwdriver to see if one end is heavier than other. Sure there are better ways though
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I recently bought a second hand Mac Allister (B&Q own brand) petrol lawnmower which has a 125cc Briggs and Stratton engine, after my trusty old Bosch Rotak electric mower fell apart. :(
I've only used it once so far, but once I got going after faffing about filling it with petrol and getting it started, it mowed my lawn nicely and quicker with the wider deck. :y
Much heavier than the leccy mower though, and as it's not self propelled, mowing the lawn will be good exercise in future! :)
Briggs and Stratton sounds like posh shortbread given the royal seal of approval by the Queen.
When it comes to mower motors B and S leave much to be desired. :-\
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I assume there's no oil filter on these? I had a look on B&S but as far as I can tell the only ones they sell are for tractor mowers.
Not to my knowledge. I just lift all four wheels on to bricks and undo the square drive plug in the blade well to dump the oil. :y
I've learnt something - I've always tipped mine upside down so it comes out of the filler ;D
This.
My mower does not appear to have a drain plug.
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I assume there's no oil filter on these? I had a look on B&S but as far as I can tell the only ones they sell are for tractor mowers.
Not to my knowledge. I just lift all four wheels on to bricks and undo the square drive plug in the blade well to dump the oil. :y
I've learnt something - I've always tipped mine upside down so it comes out of the filler ;D
This.
My mower does not appear to have a drain plug.
The Briggs I’ve worked on have the drain plug here (see photo) but maybe they don’t all have them. :-\ You just need a square drive extension, no socket.
(https://i.ibb.co/3vNymdJ/IMG-1879.jpg) (https://ibb.co/G92vQph)
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I recently bought a second hand Mac Allister (B&Q own brand) petrol lawnmower which has a 125cc Briggs and Stratton engine, after my trusty old Bosch Rotak electric mower fell apart. :(
I've only used it once so far, but once I got going after faffing about filling it with petrol and getting it started, it mowed my lawn nicely and quicker with the wider deck. :y
Much heavier than the leccy mower though, and as it's not self propelled, mowing the lawn will be good exercise in future! :)
Briggs and Stratton sounds like posh shortbread given the royal seal of approval by the Queen.
When it comes to mower motors B and S leave much to be desired. :-\
Really? ??? I thought they were good. :-\
Being a B&Q own brand I tought it would have a Chinese motor and when I picked it up was pleased when I saw it was a B&S. :)
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That reminds of Toyota Racing Division... a bit of a misdirection if you read it quickly... lots of cars with TuRD splattered over them ;D
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I recently bought a second hand Mac Allister (B&Q own brand) petrol lawnmower which has a 125cc Briggs and Stratton engine, after my trusty old Bosch Rotak electric mower fell apart. :(
I've only used it once so far, but once I got going after faffing about filling it with petrol and getting it started, it mowed my lawn nicely and quicker with the wider deck. :y
Much heavier than the leccy mower though, and as it's not self propelled, mowing the lawn will be good exercise in future! :)
Briggs and Stratton sounds like posh shortbread given the royal seal of approval by the Queen.
When it comes to mower motors B and S leave much to be desired. :-\
Really? ??? I thought they were good. :-\
Being a B&Q own brand I tought it would have a Chinese motor and when I picked it up was pleased when I saw it was a B&S. :)
B&S are fine. And have the added advantage that any spares are very, very readily available, genuine or pattern :y
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I assume there's no oil filter on these? I had a look on B&S but as far as I can tell the only ones they sell are for tractor mowers.
Not to my knowledge. I just lift all four wheels on to bricks and undo the square drive plug in the blade well to dump the oil. :y
I've learnt something - I've always tipped mine upside down so it comes out of the filler ;D
This.
My mower does not appear to have a drain plug.
The Briggs I’ve worked on have the drain plug here (see photo) but maybe they don’t all have them. :-\ You just need a square drive extension, no socket.
(https://i.ibb.co/3vNymdJ/IMG-1879.jpg) (https://ibb.co/G92vQph)
It may be me not checking properly YZ...... :-X
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I recently bought a second hand Mac Allister (B&Q own brand) petrol lawnmower which has a 125cc Briggs and Stratton engine, after my trusty old Bosch Rotak electric mower fell apart. :(
I've only used it once so far, but once I got going after faffing about filling it with petrol and getting it started, it mowed my lawn nicely and quicker with the wider deck. :y
Much heavier than the leccy mower though, and as it's not self propelled, mowing the lawn will be good exercise in future! :)
Briggs and Stratton sounds like posh shortbread given the royal seal of approval by the Queen.
When it comes to mower motors B and S leave much to be desired. :-\
Really? ??? I thought they were good. :-\
Being a B&Q own brand I tought it would have a Chinese motor and when I picked it up was pleased when I saw it was a B&S. :)
Would a Honda lump prove more reliable and last longer?
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Anyway.....I also need a new mower.
Must be petrol.
Not a 'girlie' electric or battery job.
51CM or 20 inch cut.
NOT QUALCAST CRAP
Not fitted with a made from wet cardboard B&S motor, regardless of what Tigger and TB think.
£200-£450. :)
I'll have a look in B and Q this afternoon.
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Anyway.....I also need a new mower.
Must be petrol.
Not a 'girlie' electric or battery job.
51CM or 20 inch cut.
NOT QUALCAST CRAP
Not fitted with a made from wet cardboard B&S motor, regardless of what Tigger and TB think.
£200-£450. :)
I'll have a look in B and Q this afternoon.
Lidl have Parkside petrol mowers at the moment. £129.99. What could possibly go wrong? :)
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Anyway.....I also need a new mower.
Must be petrol.
Not a 'girlie' electric or battery job.
51CM or 20 inch cut.
NOT QUALCAST CRAP
Not fitted with a made from wet cardboard B&S motor, regardless of what Tigger and TB think.
£200-£450. :)
I'll have a look in B and Q this afternoon.
Lidl have Parkside petrol mowers at the moment. £129.99. What could possibly go wrong? :)
I doubt it has a 20 inch cut....but worth a look. :y
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My grass cutter is 5 foot 2 inch tall , cute and blonde, and makes a grand cup of tea. ::) ::) :y
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My grass cutter is 5 foot 2 inch tall , cute and blonde, and makes a grand cup of tea. ::) ::) :y
You don't say if this individual a man or a woman? ::) ::) ::) ::) ;)
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My grass cutter is 5 foot 2 inch tall , cute and blonde, and makes a grand cup of tea. ::) ::) :y
You don't say if this individual a man or a woman? ::) ::) ::) ::) ;)
Or both?
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She is my grass cutter , single and a good
kisser :-X tea maker.
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She is my grass cutter , single and a good kisser :-X tea maker.
5 minutes ago the term 'she' was self-explanatory. These days there are plenty of 'she types' rocking the old meat and two veg.
Have you checked, Skruntie?.. ;) ::)
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A Gentleman never tells it all.
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A Gentleman never tells it all.
Do you know any gentlemen? Apart from, maybe, your grass cutter :)
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A Gentleman never tells it all.
Do you know any gentlemen? Apart from, maybe, your grass cutter :)
Skruntie must be a wealthy man if he can afford a 'grass cutter'
I thought it was supposed to be grim up north. ::) ::) ;)
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A Gentleman never tells it all.
Do you know any gentlemen? Apart from, maybe, your grass cutter :)
Skruntie must be a wealthy man if he can afford a 'grass cutter'
I thought it was supposed to be grim up north. ::) ::) ;)
Life is simple, not grim. London is grim.
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A Gentleman never tells it all.
Do you know any gentlemen? Apart from, maybe, your grass cutter :)
Skruntie must be a wealthy man if he can afford a 'grass cutter'
I thought it was supposed to be grim up north. ::) ::) ;)
Life is simple, not grim. London is grim.
With ethnic cleansing and bus fires are almost a weekly occurrence your not so far behind Lundun.
Oh wait, that's Bradford. An easy mistake to make.
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A Gentleman never tells it all.
Do you know any gentlemen? Apart from, maybe, your grass cutter :)
Skruntie must be a wealthy man if he can afford a 'grass cutter'
I thought it was supposed to be grim up north. ::) ::) ;)
Life is simple, not grim. London is grim.
With ethnic cleansing and bus fires are almost a weekly occurrence your not so far behind Lundun.
Oh wait, that's Bradford. An easy mistake to make.
Wrong county, and a single bus fire. Easy.
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A Gentleman never tells it all.
Do you know any gentlemen? Apart from, maybe, your grass cutter :)
Skruntie must be a wealthy man if he can afford a 'grass cutter'
I thought it was supposed to be grim up north. ::) ::) ;)
Life is simple, not grim. London is grim.
With ethnic cleansing and bus fires are almost a weekly occurrence your not so far behind Lundun.
Oh wait, that's Bradford. An easy mistake to make.
Wrong county, and a single bus fire. Easy.
Again, apologies,... I had forgotten that West and South Yorkshire were different count(R)ies >:D
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Would a Honda lump prove more reliable and last longer?
Anyway.....I also need a new mower.
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£200-£450. :)
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You’ll need to throw another couple of hundred more than your maximum to get a Honda Izy 18” cut, or another grand more than your maximum for the Honda HRX series 20” cut, or another twelve hundred for a Toro (Kawasaki engine). Some of the bigger cut Toro’s are over two and a half grand. :o
Now can you see why B & S are so popular. ;D
I’ve mentioned on here before that I had a Honda Izy sat under my bench for around four years. The petrol had long since evaporated so I put some fresh petrol in it. It started first pull. :y I believe TB had one but mistreated it by subjecting it to volcanic temperatures and melting it. ::) ;D The decks eventually rot out on the earlier Izy though.
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Would a Honda lump prove more reliable and last longer?
Anyway.....I also need a new mower.
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£200-£450. :)
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You’ll need to throw another couple of hundred more than your maximum to get a Honda Izy 18” cut, or another grand more than your maximum for the Honda HRX series 20” cut, or another twelve hundred for a Toro (Kawasaki engine). Some of the bigger cut Toro’s are over two and a half grand. :o
Now can you see why B & S are so popular. ;D
I’ve mentioned on here before that I had a Honda Izy sat under my bench for around four years. The petrol had long since evaporated so I put some fresh petrol in it. It started first pull. :y I believe TB had one but mistreated it by subjecting it to volcanic temperatures and melting it. ::) ;D The decks eventually rot out on the earlier Izy though.
My Qualcast finally wet tits up today. Clouds of white smoke before finally deciding to seize solid. It lasted 6 years but never seemed to have the torque to cut grass more than an inch or two long. Good riddance to the pile of shit. ;D
Anyway, for now, I've decided to take a risk on just about the cheapest 53CM/ 21inch SP mower available. It comes with a 2 year warranty. If it lasts that long I'll be happy. Not sure about the engine other than being a 173cc 4 stroke lump ......probably from the land of the slitty eye.
Perhaps I'll be pleasantly surprised.
https://www.parkerbrand.co.uk/petrol-lawnmower-21-inch (https://www.parkerbrand.co.uk/petrol-lawnmower-21-inch)
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Would a Honda lump prove more reliable and last longer?
Anyway.....I also need a new mower.
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£200-£450. :)
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You’ll need to throw another couple of hundred more than your maximum to get a Honda Izy 18” cut, or another grand more than your maximum for the Honda HRX series 20” cut, or another twelve hundred for a Toro (Kawasaki engine). Some of the bigger cut Toro’s are over two and a half grand. :o
Now can you see why B & S are so popular. ;D
I’ve mentioned on here before that I had a Honda Izy sat under my bench for around four years. The petrol had long since evaporated so I put some fresh petrol in it. It started first pull. :y I believe TB had one but mistreated it by subjecting it to volcanic temperatures and melting it. ::) ;D The decks eventually rot out on the earlier Izy though.
My Qualcast finally wet tits up today. Clouds of white smoke before finally deciding to seize solid. It lasted 6 years but never seemed to have the torque to cut grass more than an inch or two long. Good riddance to the pile of shit. ;D
Anyway, for now, I've decided to take a risk on just about the cheapest 53CM/ 21inch SP mower available. It comes with a 2 year warranty. If it lasts that long I'll be happy. Not sure about the engine other than being a 173cc 4 stroke lump ......probably from the land of the slitty eye.
Perhaps I'll be pleasantly surprised.
https://www.parkerbrand.co.uk/petrol-lawnmower-21-inch (https://www.parkerbrand.co.uk/petrol-lawnmower-21-inch)
Was it the huge discount that persuaded you to buy it? ;)
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That looks like a good deal on the face of it. :y
I like the beer can holders and I bet you'd easily knock back a couple of cans while mowing the tennis courts! 8)
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Would a Honda lump prove more reliable and last longer?
Anyway.....I also need a new mower.
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£200-£450. :)
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You’ll need to throw another couple of hundred more than your maximum to get a Honda Izy 18” cut, or another grand more than your maximum for the Honda HRX series 20” cut, or another twelve hundred for a Toro (Kawasaki engine). Some of the bigger cut Toro’s are over two and a half grand. :o
Now can you see why B & S are so popular. ;D
I’ve mentioned on here before that I had a Honda Izy sat under my bench for around four years. The petrol had long since evaporated so I put some fresh petrol in it. It started first pull. :y I believe TB had one but mistreated it by subjecting it to volcanic temperatures and melting it. ::) ;D The decks eventually rot out on the earlier Izy though.
My Qualcast finally wet tits up today. Clouds of white smoke before finally deciding to seize solid. It lasted 6 years but never seemed to have the torque to cut grass more than an inch or two long. Good riddance to the pile of shit. ;D
Anyway, for now, I've decided to take a risk on just about the cheapest 53CM/ 21inch SP mower available. It comes with a 2 year warranty. If it lasts that long I'll be happy. Not sure about the engine other than being a 173cc 4 stroke lump ......probably from the land of the slitty eye.
Perhaps I'll be pleasantly surprised.
https://www.parkerbrand.co.uk/petrol-lawnmower-21-inch (https://www.parkerbrand.co.uk/petrol-lawnmower-21-inch)
Was it the huge discount that persuaded you to buy it? ;)
£350 on Amazon......and a couple of places on Ebay. :)
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That looks like a good deal on the face of it. :y
I like the beer can holders and I bet you'd easily knock back a couple of cans while mowing the tennis courts! 8)
It does. What's the worst that can happen.
Can't be any more crap than the Qualcast. ;D
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I recently bought a second hand Mac Allister (B&Q own brand) petrol lawnmower which has a 125cc Briggs and Stratton engine, after my trusty old Bosch Rotak electric mower fell apart. :(
I've only used it once so far, but once I got going after faffing about filling it with petrol and getting it started, it mowed my lawn nicely and quicker with the wider deck. :y
Much heavier than the leccy mower though, and as it's not self propelled, mowing the lawn will be good exercise in future! :)
Briggs and Stratton sounds like posh shortbread given the royal seal of approval by the Queen.
When it comes to mower motors B and S leave much to be desired. :-\
Really? ??? I thought they were good. :-\
Being a B&Q own brand I tought it would have a Chinese motor and when I picked it up was pleased when I saw it was a B&S. :)
Would a Honda lump prove more reliable and last longer?
The Honda engines are great. The decks on Honda Izzy's are shockingly shite, and rust faster than a PFL Omega parked in the sea.
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YZ - I read the destructions for my mower, and it says to tip mower on side to drain oil out of filler. I will check if there is a plug underneath next time its out, but guessing from that that probably not.
Neighbour's identical mower keeps stopping again, so he says I can have it for spares. Ordered a new diaphram/gasket for the carb, see how that goes. If it fixes it, he can have it back, as I would have had my £5.29 of fun pissing around with it ;D.
DTM - B&S do actually say all their engines are good for E10, which surprised me, so I bought genuine B&S gaskets. I suspect I'll still use the Tesco 99 E5 stuff, as an extra 30p every 2-3 years isn't going to be noticed ;D
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My new (to me) petrol mower has a mulching thingie.
When is the best time of year to use it? ???
And also, don't they just scatter the clippings everywhere, where it just becomes sludge in wet weather and hay in dry weather? :-\
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Neighbour's identical mower keeps stopping again, so he says I can have it for spares. Ordered a new diaphram/gasket for the carb, see how that goes. If it fixes it, he can have it back, as I would have had my £5.29 of fun pissing around with it ;D.
Change the plug also, these smaller engines have a common trait whereby the plug goes OC as they get hot
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Ordered a genuine B&S carb overhaul kit plus spark plug and air filter. Up to £46 spent now.
A couple of other minor repairs required (crack in the grass box plus front wheels seem out of alignment and don't raise and lower quite evenly) but nothing a quiet afternoon in the garage won't cure 8)
Also sucked out all the petrol and dumped it in the Zaf. I don't want to add to my woes by letting it sit over winter.
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Ordered a genuine B&S carb overhaul kit plus spark plug and air filter. Up to £46 spent now.
A couple of other minor repairs required (crack in the grass box plus front wheels seem out of alignment and don't raise and lower quite evenly) but nothing a quiet afternoon in the garage won't cure 8)
Also sucked out all the petrol and dumped it in the Zaf. I don't want to add to my woes by letting it sit over winter.
By the time you've fitted winter tyres (to cope with the snow) and an alignment to the mower ,you'll ne nearer £100 :P
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Ordered a genuine B&S carb overhaul kit plus spark plug and air filter. Up to £46 spent now.
A couple of other minor repairs required (crack in the grass box plus front wheels seem out of alignment and don't raise and lower quite evenly) but nothing a quiet afternoon in the garage won't cure 8)
Also sucked out all the petrol and dumped it in the Zaf. I don't want to add to my woes by letting it sit over winter.
By the time you've fitted winter tyres (to cope with the snow) and an alignment to the mower ,you'll ne nearer £100 :P
I'm guessing it's RWD, so it'll need proper four wheel laser alignment, non of this front wheel tracking nonsense! :D
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YZ - I read the destructions for my mower, and it says to tip mower on side to drain oil out of filler. I will check if there is a plug underneath next time its out, but guessing from that that probably not.
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Most of the B & S mowers I’ve worked on have been the older series 35 and Quantum’s with the drain plug but I did come across an article mentioning the lack of drain plug on later mowers. As B & S are now mostly owned by KPS Capital Partners, I daresay removing the drain plug thread from the casting was a cost cutting exercise. :-\
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If you put the full model and type number into Google, exploded diagrams and part numbers are readily available from a number of websites.
Mine has a replacement oil drain plug available to buy, so it must be there somewhere 8)
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YZ - I read the destructions for my mower, and it says to tip mower on side to drain oil out of filler. I will check if there is a plug underneath next time its out, but guessing from that that probably not.
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Most of the B & S mowers I’ve worked on have been the older series 35 and Quantum’s with the drain plug but I did come across an article mentioning the lack of drain plug on later mowers. As B & S are now mostly owned by KPS Capital Partners, I daresay removing the drain plug thread from the casting was a cost cutting exercise. :-\
They were the proper B&S engines, now they are just box and badge it so not up to the same quality
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My new mower has a DUCAR engine, and metal carb also DUCAR.
No doubt it is of chinky manufacture and churned out in the millions.
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My new mower has a DUCAR engine, and metal carb also DUCAR.
No doubt it is of chinky manufacture and churned out in the millions.
All the way from sunny Chongqing. ;D
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Neighbour's identical mower keeps stopping again, so he says I can have it for spares. Ordered a new diaphram/gasket for the carb, see how that goes. If it fixes it, he can have it back, as I would have had my £5.29 of fun pissing around with it ;D.
Change the plug also, these smaller engines have a common trait whereby the plug goes OC as they get hot
Yup, it had a new plug a few weeks ago, but never solved the issue.
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YZ - I read the destructions for my mower, and it says to tip mower on side to drain oil out of filler. I will check if there is a plug underneath next time its out, but guessing from that that probably not.
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Most of the B & S mowers I’ve worked on have been the older series 35 and Quantum’s with the drain plug but I did come across an article mentioning the lack of drain plug on later mowers. As B & S are now mostly owned by KPS Capital Partners, I daresay removing the drain plug thread from the casting was a cost cutting exercise. :-\
Mine is the series 35 I think. Badged 375 Sprint.
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Neighbour's identical mower keeps stopping again, so he says I can have it for spares. Ordered a new diaphram/gasket for the carb, see how that goes. If it fixes it, he can have it back, as I would have had my £5.29 of fun pissing around with it ;D.
Hopefully it sorts it but if you want to have more fun tinkering with it you could whip the top cover off. Although the ignition coils on them are very reliable, they can be cleaned up. The magnets are on the flywheel and the contacts are on the ignition coil. If you take the flywheel nut off you will see a key which holds the flywheel in position. The only time I’ve seen a key break was when the blade had hit a lump of concrete, causing an instant stop on the flywheel. To re-time, just position the flywheel magnets in line with the ignition coil arms, place a playing card (feeler gauge) between the flywheel and coil and tighten the bolts. :y Generally though, other than kill switch issues, the coils are pretty reliable.
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Yeah, pretty sure I heard it hunting before dying last time he used it. Wonder if it's going a bit lean and killing the plug through overheating it.
It'll keep me out of mischief for a few hours one day over the winter :y