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[Kevin Wood]

Hi All,

As discussed in other threads a few of us are considering LPG conversion, and with Jay W having gone for one of these kits, pleased with it and getting on nicely with the install by the sounds of it, let's see what firm interest we have.

This is the kit:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330170356040

I have spoken to the guy about the possibility of a discount for buying in bulk and something is on the cards. Probably not much and depending on numbers but there is at least the potential to save a little. We shouldn't need as much of his time by us not all buying individually and requiring support individually.
 
For the really keen here is the manual:
 
http://www.ac.com.pl/autogaz/programy/pliki/Instruction%20of%20Stag-200,%20Stag-300%20controller.pdf
 
If you have a 4 pot I don't doubt that he'll be able to supply a kit for that, so don't let that put you off.

In addition, an LPG party has been mooted. I'm not sure what format this would take. Having had a look over my car last night the install is going to be quite involved and I wonder if we could make that much progress on a number of cars over the course of a day / weekend, however, we could regard it as a day to share experiences of the wrong and right way to do things, we could ensure that cars are prepared with pipes run and holes drilled beforehand and regard it as a "finishing-off" session. Comments welcome.

So, let's see who's interested.

I think what we need to gather is the following:

Your name
Your location
Your engine
Front End required? - the bits under the bonnet (evaporator, injectors, ecu, sensors, wiring loom)
Back End Required?  - the bits in the boot (Tank, straps, valves, filler)
Preferred tank type? - just out of interest (Cylinder, toroidal (Estate), vertical toroidal (saloon))
Interested in an LPG party?

So, I'll set the ball rolling:

Kevin Wood, Alton, 3.2 V6, Yes, Yes, Cylinder / V. toroid, Yes

Over to you....

Kevin

[Martin_1962]

If not far from Worcester I could attend, haven't got the room for more than two visiting cars unfortunately

[Craig_R]

I might be intrested in this as i want to replace my mixer front end with a front end injection system.

Craig Rennie
Watford
2.0l 4 Pot
Yes
No
No
None
Yes

 

[Kev]

Something i'd definately be interested in, and i reckon that would include Jim as well.

So....

Kev, Glasgow, 3.0 V6, Yes, Yes, , Yes

With regard to the tank, is it possible to have it without having the filler on the outside of the car?

[Kevin Wood]

The filler can go through the rear bumper....  :-?

No? Didn't think you'd like that one

They can be mounted on a towbar so I would imagine it's acceptable to mount it on some kind of bracket just under the bumper. I think it needs to be 200mm off the ground.

Kevin

[Kevin Wood]

If not far from Worcester I could attend, haven't got the room for more than two visiting cars unfortunately

Thanks, Martin. Input from those who've been there before and lived with an install for a while would be much appreciated.

Kevin

[Jim]

I'm Definetly Intrested

Jim
Glasgow (London during the week)
30.v6 short plenum
YES
YES
Vertical or donut for spare wheel well
LPG Party Yes (willing to travel down south)

[Kev]

I'm Definetly Intrested

Jim
Glasgow (London during the week)
30.v6 short plenum
YES
YES
Vertical or donut for spare wheel well
LPG Party Yes (willing to travel down south)

 

[Jim]

I'm Definetly Intrested

Jim
Glasgow (London during the week)
30.v6 short plenum
YES
YES
Vertical or donut for spare wheel well
LPG Party Yes (willing to travel down south)

 

Just Thought I would Add That, In case it made any diffirence

[x25xe]

I would be interested too:

So here goes

Andrew Terry
Hayes in Middlesex (near Heathrow)
2.5 V6 (1998 mini facelift)
Yes (Front End)
Yes (Back End)
Tank type - I would prefer a cylinder as apparently these are larger capacity
LPG party - defiantly!

I would add that I am willing to travel to where ever

Andrew

[A380 Elite]

Interested, Price we are looking at? and time of year.

Ryan.
Ashford Middx (Near Heathrow)
3.0 V6 (1997)
Yes
Yes
Tank ?
Party, Yes.

[Kev]

The filler can go through the rear bumper....  :-?

No? Didn't think you'd like that one

They can be mounted on a towbar so I would imagine it's acceptable to mount it on some kind of bracket just under the bumper. I think it needs to be 200mm off the ground.

Kevin

Ideally i'd like it to be somewhere it can't be seen.

I take it having the filler inside the boot is a no no?  :-?

[Martin_1962]

Batch production

OK you need to sort out batch production of brackets and stuff I think there are being made evaporator brackets.

For cylinder tanks it would be worth making a template and drilling all the cars at one go, also drilling the two floor holes at the same time.

ECU I suggest making a plate to mount it on as the drillable areas won't always match up with ECU holes.

I have a GRP/aluminium mesh plate in mine.

Need 3 layers to do in metal
Plate itself
spacer
lug to fit in body join

There are a couple of places to run wires out of that area, mainly around the scuttle to body bit, and the big cable connector on the front

[Kevin Wood]

I take it having the filler inside the boot is a no no?

Unfortunately it appears so. Any gas connections must be isolated from the vehicle interior and vented to the underside so my interpretation is that you can't have a connection to the tank that is accessible from the boot.

Kevin

[Kevin Wood]

Indicentally, I mentioned vertical toroidal tanks as the only alternative to a cylinder tank for a saloon. They aren't cheap (circa 300 quid for the tank) and it remains to be seen how much capacity can be squeezed into the spare wheel well. I'm just not sure I'm ready to give up enough boot space for a cylinder. Fitting a toroidal is also going to be a headache because routing the LPG pipes away from the exhaust under the car presents some challenges.

Kevin