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Re: LPG kit bulk buy & / or install party
« Reply #90 on: 13 November 2007, 15:24:39 »

The LPG Omega I had was an Estate which had a small tordial tank in the spare wheel well. Is it possible to have the small tank in the wheel well and a removable cylinder tank behind the seats?
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Re: LPG kit bulk buy & / or install party
« Reply #91 on: 13 November 2007, 15:31:56 »

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Between 39p and 45p everywhere I go... except Brackley

I'll have another look, but pretty sure I'm going to be sh@fted round here.

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Is it possible to have the small tank in the wheel well and a removable cylinder tank behind the seats?

I don't think there's any provision for a tank to be removable in the LPGA regs. You can have 2 tanks with valves to ensure they don't crossfeed but It looks like no one's crossed that particular bridge yet.

Incidentally, can you remember how much capacity you had in you spare wheel tank and what range it got you?

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Re: LPG kit bulk buy & / or install party
« Reply #92 on: 13 November 2007, 15:47:07 »

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Between 39p and 45p everywhere I go... except Brackley

I'll have another look, but pretty sure I'm going to be sh@fted round here.

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Is it possible to have the small tank in the wheel well and a removable cylinder tank behind the seats?

I don't think there's any provision for a tank to be removable in the LPGA regs. You can have 2 tanks with valves to ensure they don't crossfeed but It looks like no one's crossed that particular bridge yet.

Incidentally, can you remember how much capacity you had in you spare wheel tank and what range it got you?

Cheers,

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Hi Kevin

It was quite a while ago but I think it was a 50ltr tank and I got about 38ltrs in the tank which gave me approx 250miles in a 2.5 V6 Manual. But ive slept since then so I could be wrong. Oh yeah it was a single point system as well :y
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Re: LPG kit bulk buy & / or install party
« Reply #93 on: 13 November 2007, 17:36:25 »

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I have just spoken to a bloke called Andrew who supplies and fits LPG kits for a living and he says he could supply and fit a 4 pot with the same kit as the one listed on here for £1000, thats with a 2 year guarantee and certification, the 6 pots would be £1100. He is based in Cardiff and says his team do one a day but might be able to do two and he says he would train someone to use the set up kit.

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Hi did suggest having one done (ie mine) at £1150 and if everyone was happy have the rest done

EP .. I'm very interested in this ( as I do NOT have JamesV6CDX's technical expertise !!) but don't see why your "trial" install is MORE expensive than a normal one ???  :-/

If forum members will get a "special" and he's doing yours to encourage more .. it should be cheaper.. or am I mising something ??  

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Re: LPG kit bulk buy & / or install party
« Reply #94 on: 13 November 2007, 19:06:12 »

I think he is doing that just incase I am trying it on with the " I have a few mates that might be interested" line. So he said first one is £1150 everyone after is £1100. Oh and thats the V6 the 4 pot is £1000 :y
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« Reply #95 on: 13 November 2007, 19:12:56 »

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Ive just spoken to my local LPG supplier and its 40p a LTR. Time to get it converted I think

OK. this is the other thing that has been confusing me. LPG around my way is 55p per litre or more at the couple of places I am aware of who do it. Still better than nothing but 40p will make a conversion pay back much more quickly. Who sells LPG for 40p?

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I just did a search for the nearest countrywide store selling LPG to you, Kevin

It came up with a place called Liphook GU30 7DR.....about 10 miles away.....i get lpg from them for 43ppl on account.....but their price varies.....so have a word if interested.....i pay 43ppl no matter where i fill up at countrywide sites.....but i know they do charge different amounts on different accounts  ::)
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Re: LPG kit bulk buy & / or install party
« Reply #96 on: 13 November 2007, 20:07:57 »

Can someone who knows more than me ... (form an orderly queue !!) check these maths .......

Presently I average 25 mpg over all types of driving, When towing the shed its around 18-20mpg... research says (?) a 15% loss of performance using LPG, so I should get around 20mpg on LPG, 15mpg when towing, and using 4.54 ltrs = 1 gall

Type            cost/ltr          cost/gal       p/mile

LPG              .43p              £1.9522       9.761p    @20mpg
Petrol         £1.00               £4.54         18.16       @25mpg

saving = 8.399p/mile....  conversion @ £1100 would take 13096 miles to recover costs


LPG              .45p             £2.043          10.215p   @20mpg
Petrol           £1.05           £4.767           19.068p   @25mpg

saving= 8.853p/mile ....  conversion @£1100 would take 12425 miles to recover costs

When towing

LPG            .45               £2.043            13.62p   @ 15mpg
Petrol        £1.05             £4.767            23.835   @ 20mpg

saving = 10.215p/mile so when towing the savings are 15% higher !!!!

As I do around 12000 miles a year it pays for itself in about 12-13 months. I will probably keep the car for at least another 5 years.

Any one see any major flaws ??  Greatly appreciate any comments

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Re: LPG kit bulk buy & / or install party
« Reply #97 on: 13 November 2007, 20:24:16 »

No mate your about spot on, I did a similar excercise on the back of a fag packet today, (actually it was a Golden Viginia pouch).

I spend about £30 per week on fuel at £1.00 per litre so 35 litres of LPG per week at 45p per litre is £15.75. If the cost of the conversion is £1000 then payback is 70 weeks. If I do it myself, and it costs £600, payback is 42 weeks. And, there are weeks when I spend much more than £30 so I reckon that the real payback would be closer to 6 months.

I am planning on doing this early in the new year. I have a genius at work who has spanners for fingers and his ears double as an ammeter so I am feeling quite confident that this can be done.  :y
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Re: LPG kit bulk buy & / or install party
« Reply #98 on: 13 November 2007, 20:37:22 »

i worked out that i have saved over 15000 miles in the year about 1140 quid running on LPG working out my car does about 30 mpg on petrol mixed driving.

15000 / by 30 = 500 gallons used

500 * 4.55 = 2275 litres used

2275 litres = at todays prices about £2275

LPG is less than half but you used more MPG so roughly just half 2275 = 1140 ish saved

I wonder how wrong i am lol
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Re: LPG kit bulk buy & / or install party
« Reply #99 on: 13 November 2007, 21:15:42 »

Thanks for those views ....makes me even more interested in EP's contact ... unless anyone knows problems with that install ??
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« Reply #100 on: 14 November 2007, 12:11:23 »

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Thanks for those views ....makes me even more interested in EP's contact ... unless anyone knows problems with that install ??

I'll soon let you know, my kit should arrive today...
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« Reply #101 on: 14 November 2007, 12:18:44 »

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Thanks for those views ....makes me even more interested in EP's contact ... unless anyone knows problems with that install ??

I'll soon let you know, my kit should arrive today...

Has it arrived yet??? Has it arrived yet???
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« Reply #102 on: 14 November 2007, 12:26:54 »

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Thanks for those views ....makes me even more interested in EP's contact ... unless anyone knows problems with that install ??

I'll soon let you know, my kit should arrive today...

Has it arrived yet??? Has it arrived yet???

Er, no, but your you know what has ;)
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« Reply #103 on: 14 November 2007, 12:29:58 »

Ohhh yessss...cheers buddy.

Has the LPG kit arrived now???? How about now then?

























Now??????



















Is it there yet????????????  ;D
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« Reply #104 on: 14 November 2007, 18:45:35 »

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Certification less than £50 with bernard

Do it in a day? Only if you rush...

I'd rather take my time, we also have the added advantage of extensive Omega knowledge

Plus - I could buy a lot of gas for £300 !  ;D

I agree but I could earn a lot of money over a couple of weekends ;)

That's a fair comment - but I don't work 7 days a week, and on my days off I like engine therapy, so everyone's a winner in my situation :y
Feel free to fit on in my car then....
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