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[TheBoy]

Miele,ours is superb

10 or 15yrs ago, I would have agreed.  The newer ones seem to be more problematic it would appear.

[henryd]

Miele,ours is superb

10 or 15yrs ago, I would have agreed.  The newer ones seem to be more problematic it would appear.

Maybe so,ours is a few years old now and we've had no issues with it

[ronnyd]

I think that newer white goods, (well any manufactured items) are not made to last more than 5-7 years. If your machine is still ok, apart from the current problem, you might be better off fixing it.

[Kevin Wood]

http://www.bosch-home.co.uk/products/washers-dryers/washing-machines/front-loader/WAW32560GB.html#tab2

For example

That's ridiculous, 275 mins for a cycle

Which seems to be the issue with all modern machines. But 4.5hrs is too long.

Modern machines wash stone cold to chase energy ratings and have to extend wash times to compensate.

In addition, they don't get hot enough to kill bacteria so you end up with a load of manky stuff building up in them.

Fix the old one.

[TheBoy]

OK, replacement it is, as the spider is badly corroded where the seal runs and the bearing holders are stuck fast to the bearings and have come out of the rear drum half.  So a new drum assembly is required which is £160 (cheapest, and not in stock) - £200 (in stock).

Additionally it now needs a new dispenser, which broke when I was drilling out the rusted screws , can't find one online, but suspect its the wrong side of £70.


It'll be whatever currys have in stock for collection today then

[TheBoy]

Found some of the wiring was badly chaffed - wonder if that was causing that problem where it intermittently wouldn't finish a cycle a couple of years back?

[TheBoy]

In addition, they don't get hot enough to kill bacteria so you end up with a load of manky stuff building up in them.

Is that why Shitepoint (I think) were advertising a steam function on their shite, to kill bacteria?

As to cold fill only, I recall Mr DTM stating it was mostly pointless having a hot fill on a modern machine, as it doesn't use enough hot water to get hot from cylinder upstairs in airing cupboard down to machine in utility, so ends up heating it anyway as at best it only gets warm...

[Kevin Wood]

Yep, hot fill is a hiding to nothing, as said. The detergents benefit from being heated from cold in the machine anyway, and you need to draw off gallons of water in our house before it gets hot.

Just give it a hot wash every so often, and beware that washes are often colder than advertised in the program these days, again, to chase a good rating.

I worked on a relatives fairly new machine recently. It was full of grey, very smelly cottage cheese like stuff. Almost as if it doesn't even get hot enough to dissolve the powder!

Our 16 year old Zanussi, which gets frequent 60C washes, was clean inside when it got its' umpteenth set of bearings last year.

Does sound like yours may be too far gone to bother with.

[Rods2]

Cold fill only is due to EU tree huggers who made the ratings regulations so manufacturers couldn't 'cheat' with hot water fill.

A common complaint, especially in warmer European countries is that they are more expensive to run for people that have a roof solar heater that provides hot water for nothing.

That what happens when the eco green tree hugging lunatics have taken over the asylum and set the rules.

[biggriffin]

Best way to pre-vent the grey smelly gunge is
1 use a liquid detergent,direct in the drum
2 regular service washes' 90'c  pour bottle of white vinegar down all 3 draw slots,then let it get on with it.
3 as said 60'c washes for killing bacteria.
4 don't use powder.
5 limescale tablets,

My machine was 15 years old, using the above plan, Mrs Bg killed it in 12mths, when she moved in,
But I haven't just typed that

[Migalot]

For what it's worth, I have a Samsung and it's been great. It even has a Smartphone App to diagnose faults.

Also, it has quick 60min daily wash, which is fine for most items. 

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/household-appliances/laundry/washing-machines/samsung-ecobubble-wf70f5e0w2w-washing-machine-white-21972189-pdt.html?gclid=CM_QpLb6nMcCFeQSwwodUwUMlw&srcid=198&cmpid=ppc~gg~~~Exact&mctag=gg_goog_7904&s_kwcid=AL!3391!3!74252717604!!!g!88397827044!&ef_id=VOkPRAAABeAjjhaA:20150809213544:s

4.5-star reviews!

[TheBoy]

Don't order shite of the internet when suffering manful.

Found a machine Mrs TB gave the OK to at Currys in MK. Ordered it, but picked delivery instead of collection, what a 1st class idiot.  Still, it'll be here later today.

[TheBoy]

Does sound like yours may be too far gone to bother with.

It lost a fight with a plasma cutter.  Its amazing how small a washing machine is when cut to bits (bar the blocks and the spider (too big for my cutter))

[Kevin Wood]

I hope you kept the inner drum - they make a great fire pit.

[Lazydocker]

I hope you kept the inner drum - they make a great fire pit.

He isn't allowed fire at home any more