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Title: Mobile Phone Reception
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 28 March 2021, 09:56:45
I have 3 mobile numbers Three/O2/Plusnet

I live band in the centre where 3 masts triangulate but yet need a booster to make calls with Three. :-\

I tried vodaphone, that wouldnt even dial out.  but upstairs would work fine. :-X

I can drive from village to village and do the Okla speed test (Basic I know) and get less than 1Mb/s in one village and 70 plus is the next, try annother mobile vice versa on the speeds.

Try logging into my bank only 1 of any of the 3 will work to gain access depending on location. :-\

When 4g then 5g came available I seemed to notice that reception weaked and call qualiitys wavered.  Maybe its me, just seemed they turned the transmitting power down to benifit the newer standards each time
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Reception
Post by: countrywoman on 28 March 2021, 10:18:08
Where my workshop is almost no signal, receive but cant send. The NIMBY locals stopped a mast being erected , now they all complain of no signal!!!
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Reception
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 28 March 2021, 12:18:41
I've been with 3 for years after switching from Vodafone after getting fed up with their patchy coverage.  ::)

It's pretty good round here, but still a few spots in deepest darkest Debben where there's no signal.  :-\
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Reception
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 28 March 2021, 12:58:26
I have been with Vodafone since 1990, and certainly in recent times at least have no problem with reception. 

But, I am in a very busy part of Kent although wherever I go around and about the reception is always good.  At home I am blessed with not only a 4G mast, but also a 5G one within sight of my front room. :D ;)
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Reception
Post by: TheBoy on 28 March 2021, 18:14:53
Change networks to one that works.  There is a reason Three is cheap, and thats that its universally shite.

Most (decent, non MVNO) providers will give you a femtocell for use at home, using your home broadband.
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Reception
Post by: TheBoy on 28 March 2021, 18:17:32
With regards to signal strength reducing over time, this is normal behaviour, as the cell tower will reduce its footprint as it gets busier, and grow it when it gets quieter.  This is to encourage mobile devices to shift to an adjacent cell if the cell is busy.  This is called breathing.
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Reception
Post by: YZ250 on 28 March 2021, 19:18:01
Change networks to one that works.  There is a reason Three is cheap, and thats that its universally shite.

Most (decent, non MVNO) providers will give you a femtocell for use at home, using your home broadband.

I'm not familiar with that but my lad lives in Brill and was on O2 but got no signal at home. He kept badgering them but O2 would only help him with a booster if he was a business customer.
He switched to EE, as EE gave him a signal booster ( Brill may as well be on the moon when it comes to mobile signal  ::) ), he gets discount through work (EE tower within the factory grounds), he gets a good signal and about a zillion GB of data more than O2 were offering.

Mobile Network 3 is good if you live in certain parts of Cornwall.  :y
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Reception
Post by: TheBoy on 28 March 2021, 19:41:24
Change networks to one that works.  There is a reason Three is cheap, and thats that its universally shite.

Most (decent, non MVNO) providers will give you a femtocell for use at home, using your home broadband.

I'm not familiar with that but my lad lives in Brill and was on O2 but got no signal at home. He kept badgering them but O2 would only help him with a booster if he was a business customer.
He switched to EE, as EE gave him a signal booster ( Brill may as well be on the moon when it comes to mobile signal  ::) ), he gets discount through work (EE tower within the factory grounds), he gets a good signal and about a zillion GB of data more than O2 were offering.

Mobile Network 3 is good if you live in certain parts of Cornwall.  :y
Ah, but Brill used to get stinking Ragerpager coverage, seeing as the transmitter for Oxfordshire, Bucks and South Warkwickshire was up there ;D


To get the femtocells usually requires some effort to get through to the right people, and it as coverage (allegedly) improves, they are less and less keen.
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Reception
Post by: YZ250 on 28 March 2021, 22:09:56
Change networks to one that works.  There is a reason Three is cheap, and thats that its universally shite.

Most (decent, non MVNO) providers will give you a femtocell for use at home, using your home broadband.

I'm not familiar with that but my lad lives in Brill and was on O2 but got no signal at home. He kept badgering them but O2 would only help him with a booster if he was a business customer.
He switched to EE, as EE gave him a signal booster ( Brill may as well be on the moon when it comes to mobile signal  ::) ), he gets discount through work (EE tower within the factory grounds), he gets a good signal and about a zillion GB of data more than O2 were offering.

Mobile Network 3 is good if you live in certain parts of Cornwall.  :y
Ah, but Brill used to get stinking Ragerpager coverage, seeing as the transmitter for Oxfordshire, Bucks and South Warkwickshire was up there ;D


To get the femtocells usually requires some effort to get through to the right people, and it as coverage (allegedly) improves, they are less and less keen.

Rager Pager, I had to google that.  ::) ;D  The result of my sheltered upbringing.  ::)
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Reception
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 29 March 2021, 07:08:35
Rager Pager, I had to google that.  ::) ;D  The result of my sheltered upbringing. 

Still trying to resist using Gooogle to find out in my case. :y
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Reception
Post by: YZ250 on 29 March 2021, 12:16:00
Rager Pager, I had to google that.  ::) ;D  The result of my sheltered upbringing. 

Still trying to resist using Gooogle to find out in my case. :y

TB was obviously a bit of a party animal in his younger days.  :y
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Reception
Post by: Shackeng on 29 March 2021, 18:21:02
I use WiFi calling, don’t all smartphones have this nowadays?
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Reception
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 March 2021, 18:25:05
Yes, if you like giving all your data to Facebook...
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Reception
Post by: Broomies Mate on 29 March 2021, 18:58:36
Yes, if you like giving all your data to Facebook...

What has Facebook got to do with WiFi calling?  ;D
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Reception
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 March 2021, 19:11:11
WhatsApp is a Facebook company that allows wifi calling... For example  ;)
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Reception
Post by: Broomies Mate on 29 March 2021, 19:14:06
WhatsApp is a Facebook company that allows wifi calling... For example  ;)

Of course..... but you don't need a third party App to make calls over WiFi.  :y
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Reception
Post by: STEMO on 29 March 2021, 19:14:39
My three sim allows WiFi calling.
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Reception
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 March 2021, 19:15:33
WhatsApp is a Facebook company that allows wifi calling... For example  ;)

Of course..... but you don't need a third party App to make calls over WiFi.  :y
At risk of asking a stupid question...

How is that billed?
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Reception
Post by: Broomies Mate on 29 March 2021, 19:24:56

At risk of asking a stupid question...

How is that billed?

I'm on EE, so I'll use them as an example, but the same applies to most, if not all the other networks.

I make a call (using WiFi).  The call is connected to the EE network by using data over the internet instead of using the 3G/4G/5G signal.

The date/time/duration of the call is logged exactly as it would be if using the Mobile Signal.

All calls/texts are billed the same as a standard call, so if you have an unlimited plan, you don't pay.  If you have unused minutes/messages you don't pay.
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Reception
Post by: TheBoy on 29 March 2021, 20:21:45
Change networks to one that works.  There is a reason Three is cheap, and thats that its universally shite.

Most (decent, non MVNO) providers will give you a femtocell for use at home, using your home broadband.

I'm not familiar with that but my lad lives in Brill and was on O2 but got no signal at home. He kept badgering them but O2 would only help him with a booster if he was a business customer.
He switched to EE, as EE gave him a signal booster ( Brill may as well be on the moon when it comes to mobile signal  ::) ), he gets discount through work (EE tower within the factory grounds), he gets a good signal and about a zillion GB of data more than O2 were offering.

Mobile Network 3 is good if you live in certain parts of Cornwall.  :y
Ah, but Brill used to get stinking Ragerpager coverage, seeing as the transmitter for Oxfordshire, Bucks and South Warkwickshire was up there ;D


To get the femtocells usually requires some effort to get through to the right people, and it as coverage (allegedly) improves, they are less and less keen.

Rager Pager, I had to google that.  ::) ;D  The result of my sheltered upbringing.  ::)
Yeah, Steve Jobs clearly never heard of Radio Pagers.

oppsing Apple.
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Reception
Post by: TheBoy on 29 March 2021, 20:23:42
Wifi calling is not available on all contracts, and rarely on PAYG type accounts.

Its billed in the same way STEMO, because it calls are still routed through the service provider, its just it uses the Internal between your handset and the Service Provider, and not the RAN.
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Reception
Post by: STEMO on 29 March 2021, 20:25:45
Wifi calling is not available on all contracts, and rarely on PAYG type accounts.

Its billed in the same way STEMO, because it calls are still routed through the service provider, its just it uses the Internal between your handset and the Service Provider, and not the RAN.
Yes, I know ;D
But, as I have unlimited minutes, that doesn't matter. It just gets around a weak 4G signal at home.
Title: Re: Mobile Phone Reception
Post by: TheBoy on 29 March 2021, 20:29:57
Wifi calling is not available on all contracts, and rarely on PAYG type accounts.

Its billed in the same way STEMO, because it calls are still routed through the service provider, its just it uses the Internal between your handset and the Service Provider, and not the RAN.
Yes, I know ;D
But, as I have unlimited minutes, that doesn't matter. It just gets around a weak 4G signal at home.
Yup, Wifi calling is a simple way for those who's wifi is good but cellular signal is unusable.  Or if you only have 4G (4G cannot natively carry voice traffic, so the handset by default falls back to 3G or 2G for calls, or uses other technilogies seemlessly like Wifi calling or VoLTE (a bit like wifi calling, but over 4G)