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Title: Astra leather seats.
Post by: STEMO on 11 September 2017, 12:58:04
Horrible....hard...uncomfortable. Give me arseache. I shall have to buy a whoopee cushion.
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: TheBoy on 11 September 2017, 13:02:38
Horrible....hard...uncomfortable. Give me arseache. I shall have to buy a whoopee cushion.
All leather is wanky. Hot in summer, cold in winter. A decent cloth wins every time.
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: ronnyd on 11 September 2017, 13:03:42
Ditch it and buy a car with decent seats, as long as it ain,t French. :D
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: tunnie on 11 September 2017, 13:31:32
Horrible....hard...uncomfortable. Give me arseache. I shall have to buy a whoopee cushion.

Interesting feedback, guessing it's same in Zaf Tourer. I was considering seeking out Elite spec ones. Maybe not now
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 September 2017, 13:41:52
Horrible....hard...uncomfortable. Give me arseache. I shall have to buy a whoopee cushion.

Heated leather Signum Elite seats are pretty comfortable. But then The Signum is a prestige motor car.
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: Jimbob on 11 September 2017, 13:42:18
My zafira elite leater seats are good, perforated leather, heaters at a sensible level of heat, plenty of support and Im not small!
can sit for hours in them no problem.  they are 2008 vintage though so things have changed
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: tunnie on 11 September 2017, 13:43:18
My zafira elite leater seats are good, perforated leather, heaters at a sensible level of heat, plenty of support and Im not small!
can sit for hours in them no problem.  they are 2008 vintage though so things have changed

Looking at later ones, leather looks smooth. Not perforated  :-\
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: TheBoy on 11 September 2017, 13:56:13
My zafira elite leater seats are good, perforated leather, heaters at a sensible level of heat, plenty of support and Im not small!
can sit for hours in them no problem.  they are 2008 vintage though so things have changed
Any leather seat must have coolers as well. It should be law ;)
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: TheBoy on 11 September 2017, 13:59:04
My zafira elite leater seats are good, perforated leather, heaters at a sensible level of heat, plenty of support and Im not small!
can sit for hours in them no problem.  they are 2008 vintage though so things have changed

Looking at later ones, leather looks smooth. Not perforated  :-\
That used car seller from Oxford told me the airline style (perforated) are generally more comfortable, but I forget the reason why.
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 September 2017, 14:06:14
My zafira elite leater seats are good, perforated leather, heaters at a sensible level of heat, plenty of support and Im not small!
can sit for hours in them no problem.  they are 2008 vintage though so things have changed
Any leather seat must have coolers as well. It should be law ;)
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Agreed....but not coolers made by Jaguar because they are utter shite.

Something to do with the 'peltier' system they use. :-\
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: TheBoy on 11 September 2017, 14:43:44
My zafira elite leater seats are good, perforated leather, heaters at a sensible level of heat, plenty of support and Im not small!
can sit for hours in them no problem.  they are 2008 vintage though so things have changed
Any leather seat must have coolers as well. It should be law ;)
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Agreed....but not coolers made by Jaguar because they are utter shite.

Something to do with the 'peltier' system they use. :-\
Fairly certain mine takes chilled cabin air and gently blows through.  That said, I suspect if you had cabin set to 23C, the chilling effect would be shite.  In warm weather mine is definitely capable of getting uncomfortably cool with cabin set to 18-19C
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 11 September 2017, 15:16:34
Horrible....hard...uncomfortable. Give me arseache. I shall have to buy a whoopee cushion.

They are wipe clean though, which must be handy.  :y
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 11 September 2017, 16:02:42
My Mondeo has 'half leather' ie leather side bits but the actual seat is perforated black material. They look smart and are very comfortable!  :y
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 11 September 2017, 16:05:32
Merc leather are very comfy, heated & cooled so no issues.
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: Andy B on 11 September 2017, 17:23:29
Merc leather are very comfy, heated & cooled so no issues.

Is it leather? Or Artico, Merc's faux leather?
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 11 September 2017, 18:07:46
Merc leather are very comfy, heated & cooled so no issues.

Is it leather? Or Artico, Merc's faux leather?
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Definitely leather.
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: Andy B on 11 September 2017, 18:16:36
Merc leather are very comfy, heated & cooled so no issues.

Is it leather? Or Artico, Merc's faux leather?
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Definitely leather.

Seems to be a rare commodity   :y
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 11 September 2017, 18:34:50
Merc leather are very comfy, heated & cooled so no issues.

Is it leather? Or Artico, Merc's faux leather?
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Definitely leather.

Seems to be a rare commodity   :y

Not really as there are plenty of cows in the fields!  ;D
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: BazaJT on 11 September 2017, 19:07:44
Personally I wouldn't buy a car if it didn't have leather seats.Heated/cooled has never made a difference to me,never had one with cooling so don't particularly miss that bit and I can count on the fingers of one hand how many times I've used the seat heaters on any I've had-and all my cars from 1998 onwards have had leather.In the mid '70's dad had a Mercedes 280CE which had what they termed at the time M-B Tex.
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 September 2017, 08:52:32
Personally I wouldn't buy a car if it didn't have leather seats.Heated/cooled has never made a difference to me,never had one with cooling so don't particularly miss that bit and I can count on the fingers of one hand how many times I've used the seat heaters on any I've had-and all my cars from 1998 onwards have had leather.In the mid '70's dad had a Mercedes 280CE which had what they termed at the time M-B Tex.
Vinyl to anyone else ;D

Cloth, velour and actual leather being options ;)
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: Andy B on 12 September 2017, 10:30:49
Merc leather are very comfy, heated & cooled so no issues.

Is it leather? Or Artico, Merc's faux leather?
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Definitely leather.

Seems to be a rare commodity   :y

Not really as there are plenty of cows in the fields!  ;D

But Merc usually default to vinyl / Artico  ???
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 12 September 2017, 13:10:32
Had a tear drive in a white 2017 C63 Merc.

Not real leather but fake 'artico'

Plastic or vinyl but certainly not made from cows. :-\
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: STEMO on 18 September 2017, 22:15:48
Just to update: The seat is now the same shape as my arse....much better.  ;D
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 18 September 2017, 22:21:07
What shape is that?  ???  :-\

2 large pumpkins?  ;D
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: STEMO on 18 September 2017, 22:26:20
What shape is that?  ???  :-\

2 large pumpkins?  ;D
Two boiled eggs in a hankie  ;D
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: Entwood on 18 September 2017, 22:26:44
Just to update: The seat is now the same shape as  flattened by my large arse....much better.  ;D

FTFY ....  :)   :)
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: frostbite on 27 September 2017, 20:27:55
BMW have sensatec and Mercedes have MB-Tex
Its a Vinyl leatherette That comes standard and feels like plastic also has a crackle texture.

My 325 has real leather on the otherhand, there is sensatec also but on the 2 rear headrests and airbag seams in the doorcards

Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: Andy B on 27 September 2017, 21:52:03
..... and Mercedes have MB-Tex ....

MB call their vinyl Artico. I'll certainly do my best to avoid it if I get another Merc. I had the outer side panel of my seat repaired due to it cracking  .... presumably caused by sliding over it getting in & out of the car and the centre 'suede' bit of both front seats has bobbled.

My Omega's leather seats still looked like new after 180 000 miles.
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: frostbite on 27 September 2017, 22:42:39
Its the same thing lol (the yanks name for it), mercs version is better than bmw

Bmw's one is just cheap and nasty. My boss has it in his f30 320d, black powdery plastic but I darent tell him, I only noticed the headrests in mine when I went to clean the seats after I bought the car

Older cars generally had better seats, softer and more comfy
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: Viral_Jim on 27 September 2017, 23:12:14
Yup. For all it's flaws, my S80 seats are the comfiest of any car I've owned (and possibly sat in come to that). Proper peeled cow.

I liked the look of my M140i seats but the feel is just not he same.
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: frostbite on 27 September 2017, 23:23:48
I loved the seats in the v70, I did a 10hr round trip in it without any aches was percect
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 September 2017, 11:42:29
Seats in my car are leather faced. :y

Sides and back are not made of peeled cow but a vinyl of some description. :-\

Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: Andy B on 28 September 2017, 11:45:56
Its the same thing lol (the yanks name for it), mercs version is better than bmw

Bmw's one is just cheap and nasty. ....

Is it ..... only heard it called Artico.

BMWs must be bad if it's worse than Merc' s  ???
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: henryd on 28 September 2017, 12:03:13
..... and Mercedes have MB-Tex ....

MB call their vinyl Artico. I'll certainly do my best to avoid it if I get another Merc. I had the outer side panel of my seat repaired due to it cracking  .... presumably caused by sliding over it getting in & out of the car and the centre 'suede' bit of both front seats has bobbled.

My Omega's leather seats still looked like new after 180 000 miles.

Alcantara ???
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: Andy B on 28 September 2017, 13:10:40
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Alcantara ???

Is it?  :-\

Like this one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-57-Mercedes-Benz-R-Class-R280-3-0-V6-CDi-TD-SE-Automatic-5-Seater-/112546506929?hash=item1a344b68b1:g:5toAAOSwSblZp8I2 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-57-Mercedes-Benz-R-Class-R280-3-0-V6-CDi-TD-SE-Automatic-5-Seater-/112546506929?hash=item1a344b68b1:g:5toAAOSwSblZp8I2)
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: henryd on 28 September 2017, 18:38:03
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Alcantara ???

Is it?  :-\

Like this one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-57-Mercedes-Benz-R-Class-R280-3-0-V6-CDi-TD-SE-Automatic-5-Seater-/112546506929?hash=item1a344b68b1:g:5toAAOSwSblZp8I2 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-57-Mercedes-Benz-R-Class-R280-3-0-V6-CDi-TD-SE-Automatic-5-Seater-/112546506929?hash=item1a344b68b1:g:5toAAOSwSblZp8I2)

Yes,says so on the main advert headline :y
Title: Re: Astra leather seats.
Post by: Andy B on 28 September 2017, 18:59:25
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Alcantara ???

Is it?  :-\

Like this one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-57-Mercedes-Benz-R-Class-R280-3-0-V6-CDi-TD-SE-Automatic-5-Seater-/112546506929?hash=item1a344b68b1:g:5toAAOSwSblZp8I2 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-57-Mercedes-Benz-R-Class-R280-3-0-V6-CDi-TD-SE-Automatic-5-Seater-/112546506929?hash=item1a344b68b1:g:5toAAOSwSblZp8I2)

Yes,says so on the main advert headline :y

It does indeed ...... I noticed it after I linked to it.  ;)