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[laney101]

When going around a bend at pace car turns in then kind of slides or pulls it self half way around corner (turns again with no more input) as if something is loose or moved underneath front end and you need to quickly adjust steering.

Terrified me other day. 

Gonna get it jacked up as assess all joints this week but has anyone else had anything similar.


Tyre all all good 1 year old dunlop sport max rt2
Wishbones droplinks steering arms tied rod centre bar and idler arm all new in past 12 months.

[biggriffin]

Diff mounts, or donuts, sounds like rear ends moving.

[Nick W]

Diff mounts, or donuts, sounds like rear ends moving.

that.


It only takes a tiny movement at the back to have a large effect on the front.

[laney101]

Really... ok i shall have a nosey... seem strange it all of a sudden happened....

[Doctor Gollum]

Depends on how you were driving when it let go...

[laney101]

It was nothong to do with the driving style etc...

Its a issue with car.


Turning a corner i go around every day for work
Not fast not hard just normal pace..

Turned corner going around it then car mobed itself mid corner and i had to correct it. (The front not rear)

Wasnt understeer was as if wheel angle changed mid corner

[Doctor Gollum]

Re read what I typed.

But from your latest description, wishbone bushes and tyre pressures...

Also, car control 101, any directional change from either end is corrected by appropriate input of both steering wheel or throttle.

When the diff mount(s) fail, the weight transfer across the rear end mid corner can really throw the back end off, and although unnerving, requires no steering input (unless the back end actually breaks away, in an Omega this generally means your about to roll it).

[dave the builder]

or Diesel , or oil spill on the road
under inflated tyres can be very sketchy if you hit a corner wrong 

[laney101]

Wasnt didsel or spillage ...

Its happened in various corner various speed over last few weeks .. but only slightly

This time was scary. As if car steering did something completely different to what i was doing.

The back end did not move. Was front ..

Throttle wasnt changed neither was steering input.

Smooth corner steady speed all of a sudden frotn of car pull in tight to corner very quickly so i had to steer other way ..

Felt like wheel camber chamged or soemthing.

Going to check ball joint. And wishbone bushes but cant see it as all new in past 12months.

If was dangerous

[laney101]

With regards to diff bushes failing.

So when rear end moves causes front to be irratic.

Also am i looking for the bushes to be split or fallen apart??

[Doctor Gollum]

Back it onto ramps and place a trolley jack and block UP TO the diff. DO NOT lift the diff. Then undo the diff mounts as follows:

Left side, remove both bolts. If the bracket falls off, the mount needs recasting in polyurethane (you can fit second hand, but good luck finding any... Not available new) . Refit bracket and bolts and retorque them.

Repeat on right hand mount.

DO NOT remove BOTH mounts at the same time. Instant death may result.

If the mount drops a half inch or so but doesn't fall off then the mount is serviceable but check for condition/cracks. 

Report your findings and we can move onto repairing them.

[Andy H]

When going around a bend at pace car turns in then kind of slides or pulls it self half way around corner (turns again with no more input) as if something is loose or moved underneath front end and you need to quickly adjust steering.

Terrified me other day. 

Gonna get it jacked up as assess all joints this week but has anyone else had anything similar.


Tyre all all good 1 year old dunlop sport max rt2
Wishbones droplinks steering arms tied rod centre bar and idler arm all new in past 12 months.

loose front subframe bolts or totally fubar wishbone bushes might do it.

[terry paget]

Check front tyres for wear on inner edges. I have seen front tyres looking fine across most of tread but inner edges with wires coming out. Such tyres can cause sudden break away.

[2011venator]

Wasnt didsel or spillage ...

Its happened in various corner various speed over last few weeks .. but only slightly

This time was scary. As if car steering did something completely different to what i was doing.

The back end did not move. Was front ..

Throttle wasnt changed neither was steering input.



Smooth corner steady speed all of a sudden frotn of car pull in tight to corner very quickly so i had to steer other way ..

Felt like wheel camber chamged or soemthing.

Going to check ball joint. And wishbone bushes but cant see it as all new in past 12months.

If was dangerous

Hi Laney seems you might have the twin sister of my car, so far I have replaced front wisbones, changed tyres, replaced ball joints, replaced idler arm, had tracking checked, and still has a mind of its own. At first it feels like it is pulling to nearside but I have noticed it depends on the road and will drive straight on a flat surface it seems that any imperfection in the road will make it dive into nearside or offside needing instant correction it is as you say not very reassuring. The big difference is yours is while cornering whereas my is more when trying to keep in a straight line, my evil twin seems ok in the corners. Hope you find the problem as at the moment it is baffling me.

[laney101]

Big update this morning...

Cheera for help guy following has been found.

All tyres are fine ... wearing pretty much even accross whole tread front and back.

Wishbone horizontal bushes no play
Wishbone verticle bushes no play
Front wheels checked 9 and 3 no movement

Front wheels checked 12 and 6. Very slight movement??

Checked front steering arms left and right.
Driver no play good solid movement

Passenger can be moved very easily as if worn. (Annoying as swapped them both less than year ago.

Rear end removed diff mount one by one.
Both only droppes arouns 8 to 10 mm

Didnt fall off.. pulled and wigled them they seem solid with next to now cracks in them so bolted back up.

Rear beam doughnuts. Lots of verticle movement. Can hear the beam moving as i leavered it with large screwdrover. Both sides the same.

Compared to another omega o had in for breaking with 80k on it and the movement was a lot more.


So only things ive found up to now if beam doughnut bushes.

And one steering arm.

I have however found although car sdives straight and true and been tracked the front camber is -2degree

So i need to reset to around -1.1degree to -1.3degree