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[Varche]

Dull?

Explosive?

Going to influence the US elections?

I can’t wait………

[Migalot]

Tonight at 11:00pm.

Will definitely watch. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I can't decide if I like TC or not.

On the one hand he seems a down to earth bloke (albeit extremely wealthy)who speaks a lot of sense.

On the other hand he can come across as a 'smarmy bastard'

Dilemma.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Will it be a searching interview that makes Putin squirm in his seat or a sycophantic chummy chat I wonder?   

[Doctor Gollum]

He's a pretty good interviewer and if his interview with the Hungarian chap is anything to go by, it should be a decent piece.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Will it be a searching interview that makes Putin squirm in his seat or a sycophantic chummy chat I wonder?   

Depends if Vlad is armed or has a fast acting poison to hand.

[STEMO]

Glad will do to him exactly what he does to Trump. Pat him on the head, tell him a pack of lies and send him off happy.

[Doctor Gollum]

At least The Donald spoke to Vlad.

The second the Ukrainian situation came to light, Biden and his bunch of frucktards stopped talking and started arming the Ukrainians

Same in North Korea and China.

Like home or loathe him, the world was much more stable 4 years ago.

[Varche]

But you could argue the world was also much more stable pre Trump?

But what did Trump and Putin talk about and agree? I don’t recall the minutes being published.

[Sir Tigger KC]

But you could argue the world was also much more stable pre Trump?

But what did Trump and Putin talk about and agree? I don’t recall the minutes being published.

The world in which both Libya and Syria imploded? 

While O'Bummer was undoubtedly a nice chap, he was also pretty ineffective IMO. 

[Varche]

Agreed, I had conveniently or otherwise forgotten about them

[Raeturbo]

Yes Don has the bottle to talk to any of the pricks without fear fair play to the header

[Doctor Gollum]

But you could argue the world was also much more stable pre Trump?

But what did Trump and Putin talk about and agree? I don’t recall the minutes being published.

Oh yes when W (and Blair the Treasonous), tore up the Middle East just to prove to Daddy that he could actually do something whilst failing to notice the consequences of the previous morons repealing of the Glass-Steagal Act. This in turn allowed the globally economy to implode between the election and Baby killer taking over.

Not to mention the fact that Obama, unsatisfied with Afghanistan, started on Syria, Africa and Iran. And all without actually growing the economy or achieving anything else noteworthy.

Under Donald, the US became energy self sufficient, grew the economy, reduced unemployment and reduced illegal immigration and set about withdrawal of US troops from all foreign conflicts in a controlled and measured manner.

Sippy Cup, like a spoilt child has done nothing other than actively and deliberately undoing everything Donald achieved out of spite, whilst carrying on where Obama left off.

Before Donald, the last actual president worthy of the title was George Bush Senior.

[Raeturbo]

That’s about fair I’d say👍

[Nick W]

More that he forgot to use the supplied 6" nails to retain his tin-foil hat.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

But you could argue the world was also much more stable pre Trump?

But what did Trump and Putin talk about and agree? I don’t recall the minutes being published.

Oh yes when W (and Blair the Treasonous), tore up the Middle East just to prove to Daddy that he could actually do something whilst failing to notice the consequences of the previous morons repealing of the Glass-Steagal Act. This in turn allowed the globally economy to implode between the election and Baby killer taking over.

Not to mention the fact that Obama, unsatisfied with Afghanistan, started on Syria, Africa and Iran. And all without actually growing the economy or achieving anything else noteworthy.

Under Donald, the US became energy self sufficient, grew the economy, reduced unemployment and reduced illegal immigration and set about withdrawal of US troops from all foreign conflicts in a controlled and measured manner.

Sippy Cup, like a spoilt child has done nothing other than actively and deliberately undoing everything Donald achieved out of spite, whilst carrying on where Obama left off.

Before Donald, the last actual president worthy of the title was George Bush Senior.

Most US presidents have proved to be piss poor. Biden is clearly senile.

You'd have to go back as far as Teddy Roosevelt to find a half decent one in my view......he of "speak softly but carry a big stick" fame.

[Doctor Gollum]

Biden is so woefully inadequate that even Mr Whine himself is ready to have a go, albeit if only to question whether he should or could be charged with anything given just how demented he clearly is.

[Doctor Gollum]

Not seen the second half of the interview, but one thing that was quite telling is that nobody after Bush Senior took a genuine interest in working with Russia following the collapse of the Soviet Union. Although no mention of the Donald at the point I have got to.

Sippy Cups only obvious priority has been to protect his Ukrainian interests.

So far an interesting history lesson and criticism of a series of political errors by various members of NATO...

[Sir Tigger KC]

Not seen the second half of the interview, but one thing that was quite telling is that nobody after Bush Senior took a genuine interest in working with Russia following the collapse of the Soviet Union. Although no mention of the Donald at the point I have got to.

Sippy Cups only obvious priority has been to protect his Ukrainian interests.

So far an interesting history lesson and criticism of a series of political errors by various members of NATO...

Well Russia during most of the 1990's was more or less an anarchy under the drunken figurehead Boris Yeltsin and was pretty much under the control of the gangsters. Nevertheless billions of dollars of western aid money was poured into Russia in an attempt to keep the place on an even keel. 

Putin is a proven liar. But you know that. No? 

[Rangie]

But you could argue the world was also much more stable pre Trump?

But what did Trump and Putin talk about and agree? I don’t recall the minutes being published.

Oh yes when W (and Blair the Treasonous), tore up the Middle East just to prove to Daddy that he could actually do something whilst failing to notice the consequences of the previous morons repealing of the Glass-Steagal Act. This in turn allowed the globally economy to implode between the election and Baby killer taking over.

Not to mention the fact that Obama, unsatisfied with Afghanistan, started on Syria, Africa and Iran. And all without actually growing the economy or achieving anything else noteworthy.

Under Donald, the US became energy self sufficient, grew the economy, reduced unemployment and reduced illegal immigration and set about withdrawal of US troops from all foreign conflicts in a controlled and measured manner.

Sippy Cup, like a spoilt child has done nothing other than actively and deliberately undoing everything Donald achieved out of spite, whilst carrying on where Obama left off.

Before Donald, the last actual president worthy of the title was George Bush Senior.

Most US presidents have proved to be piss poor. Biden is clearly senile.

You'd have to go back as far as Teddy Roosevelt to find a half decent one in my view......he of "speak softly but carry a big stick" fame.

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Apparently on the lunchtime news  Biden spoke about a political figure he had spoken to recently, when in fact the person had been dead for over 20 years  it's fairly obvious he has serious problems.

[Migalot]

Putin is a proven liar. But you know that. No? 

Evidence-free statement.

[Doctor Gollum]

Not seen the second half of the interview, but one thing that was quite telling is that nobody after Bush Senior took a genuine interest in working with Russia following the collapse of the Soviet Union. Although no mention of the Donald at the point I have got to.

Sippy Cups only obvious priority has been to protect his Ukrainian interests.

So far an interesting history lesson and criticism of a series of political errors by various members of NATO...

Well Russia during most of the 1990's was more or less an anarchy under the drunken figurehead Boris Yeltsin and was pretty much under the control of the gangsters. Nevertheless billions of dollars of western aid money was poured into Russia in an attempt to keep the place on an even keel. 

Putin is a proven liar. But you know that. No? 

He's a politician and self appointed person in charge...

All things considered, he came across as pretty reasonable. And when you stop and think about it, everything that has happened in Ukraine up to this point happened as a direct result of interference either the Obama or Biden administrations.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Putin is a proven liar. But you know that. No? 

Evidence-free statement.

Seriously?        

[Migalot]

Seriously?        

Yes. If you state that someone has lied, you should provide an example.

Unless, of course, you rely on the BBC et al for your views...

[TheBoy]

Seriously?        

Yes. If you state that someone has lied, you should provide an example.

Unless, of course, you rely on the BBC et al for your views...

I think even I'd believe the BBC than Carlson, who can't get enough of sucking Putin's piles....

[STEMO]

He said he wasn't going to invade Ukraine, that was a bit of a porky 

[TheBoy]

He said he wasn't going to invade Ukraine, that was a bit of a porky 

Is it?  He hasn't launched an invasion, it's just a Special Military Operation.  I'm sure there is a subtle difference in the eyes of that Tucker Ftucker

[Doctor Gollum]

He said he wasn't going to invade Ukraine, that was a bit of a porky 

Technically, Crimea is/was a Russian enclave whilst coincidentally being more or less part of the Ukrainian area.

[STEMO]

He said he wasn't going to invade Ukraine, that was a bit of a porky 

Technically, Crimea is/was a Russian enclave whilst coincidentally being more or less part of the Ukrainian area.

You really need to get a woman, or even a blow up doll 
Your need to reply to every post, usually with nonsense, is becoming tedious.

[Sir Tigger KC]

He said he wasn't going to invade Ukraine, that was a bit of a porky 

Technically, Crimea is/was a Russian enclave whilst coincidentally being more or less part of the Ukrainian area.

A miniscule part of Crimea namely the Sevastopol naval base was leased to Russia, but remained Ukrainian sovereign territory along with the rest of the peninsula.   

[Sir Tigger KC]

Seriously?        

Yes. If you state that someone has lied, you should provide an example.

Unless, of course, you rely on the BBC et al for your views...

He said he wasn't going to invade Ukraine, that was a bit of a porky 

Uncle STEMO beat me to it...  But yes, he stationed 10,000's of troops and equipment along the Russia/Ukrainian border and along with his thuggish henchman Lavrov, insisted that they were just there on exercise. 

The pair of them and the Defense Minister Shoigu, even told their lies directly to international politicians visiting Moscow in the run up to their invasion. 

Good enough? 

[Migalot]

He said he wasn't going to invade Ukraine, that was a bit of a porky 

That's why he deliberately termed the incursion as a Special Military Operation, as he answered a request for help from the Russian-speaking populations of Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts who had suffered 14,000 deaths from bombing by Kiev between 2014 and 2021.

Talking of lies, declassified documents show security assurances against NATO expansion to given to Soviet leaders [following German reunification] from Baker, Bush, Genscher, Kohl, Gates, Mitterrand, Thatcher, Hurd, Major, and Woerner. That collective lie led to all this.

Oh, and the Minsk 1 and Minsk 2 Accords (which would have kept Ukraine intact) were guaranteed by France and Germany but they later admitted that they had no intention of honouring the Accords. So they effectively lied.

And, of course, following the initial incursion by 70,000 Russian troops, Ukraine initialed the Istanbul Agreement which, again, would have kept Ukraine intact. As part of that, Russia agreed as a goodwill gesture to withdraw troops from Kiev. Unfortunately, Johnson flew to Kiev and told Zelensky not to sign, but to fight Russia instead. Very bad move.

Had the Minsk Accords and the Istanbul Agreement been honoured, Donbass would have remained part of Ukraine, albeit with autonomy governing language, religion etc.

In a little mitigation, Zelensky has been under pressure from the Nazi element within Western Ukrainian society. These openly display the Nazi salute and have tattoos of Hitler and the Waffen SS.

My late parents both served in WW2 against Nazism. I honour their memory by similarly opposing Nazism in Ukraine.

You won't find all that on the BBC.

However, in 2015 (following the coup of 2014), Consortium News reported: "The U.S. House of Representatives has admitted an ugly truth that the U.S. mainstream media has tried to hide from the American people that the post-coup regime in Ukraine has relied heavily on Nazi storm troopers to carry out its bloody war against ethnic Russians, reports Robert Parry."


https://consortiumnews.com/2015/06/12/u-s-house-admits-nazi-role-in-ukraine/   

[STEMO]

He said he wasn't going to invade Ukraine, that was a bit of a porky 

That's why he deliberately termed the incursion as a Special Military Operation, as he answered a request for help from the Russian-speaking populations of Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts who had suffered 14,000 deaths from bombing by Kiev between 2014 and 2021.

Talking of lies, declassified documents show security assurances against NATO expansion to given to Soviet leaders [following German reunification] from Baker, Bush, Genscher, Kohl, Gates, Mitterrand, Thatcher, Hurd, Major, and Woerner. That collective lie led to all this.

Oh, and the Minsk 1 and Minsk 2 Accords (which would have kept Ukraine intact) were guaranteed by France and Germany but they later admitted that they had no intention of honouring the Accords. So they effectively lied.

And, of course, following the initial incursion by 70,000 Russian troops, Ukraine initialed the Istanbul Agreement which, again, would have kept Ukraine intact. As part of that, Russia agreed as a goodwill gesture to withdraw troops from Kiev. Unfortunately, Johnson flew to Kiev and told Zelensky not to sign, but to fight Russia instead. Very bad move.

Had the Minsk Accords and the Istanbul Agreement been honoured, Donbass would have remained part of Ukraine, albeit with autonomy governing language, religion etc.

In a little mitigation, Zelensky has been under pressure from the Nazi element within Western Ukrainian society. These openly display the Nazi salute and have tattoos of Hitler and the Waffen SS.

My late parents both served in WW2 against Nazism. I honour their memory by similarly opposing Nazism in Ukraine.

You won't find all that on the BBC.

However, in 2015 (following the coup of 2014), Consortium News reported: "The U.S. House of Representatives has admitted an ugly truth that the U.S. mainstream media has tried to hide from the American people that the post-coup regime in Ukraine has relied heavily on Nazi storm troopers to carry out its bloody war against ethnic Russians, reports Robert Parry."


https://consortiumnews.com/2015/06/12/u-s-house-admits-nazi-role-in-ukraine/   

That's all very interesting, but you asked for an instance of your friend Putin lying, you got it.

[Sir Tigger KC]

He said he wasn't going to invade Ukraine, that was a bit of a porky 

That's why he deliberately termed the incursion as a Special Military Operation

So you admit he is a liar then? 

[Migalot]

He said he wasn't going to invade Ukraine, that was a bit of a porky 

That's why he deliberately termed the incursion as a Special Military Operation

So you admit he is a liar then? 

Semantics.

An invasion supposes a complete intention to take over a country. This was an operation to expel the Ukrainian forces from the Donbass regions that had declared independence and had been recognised by the Russian parliament.

In any event, did either you or STEMO actually watch the whole interview?   

[Doctor Gollum]

Seems to me that all anyone had to do was pick up the phone.

[Migalot]

Seems to me that all anyone had to do was pick up the phone.

Agreed, but Zelensky has passed a Act in the Rada which literally prohibits any talks with Russia. As for a phone call between Biden and Putin, the former would probably think he was talking to the President of Mexico...      

[Migalot]

He said he wasn't going to invade Ukraine, that was a bit of a porky 

That's why he deliberately termed the incursion as a Special Military Operation

So you admit he is a liar then? 

Besides which, a lie is saying something that you KNOW not to be true. If I told you that I wouldn't be coming to your party (as if you'd invite me  ), but subsequently changed my mind and turned up, you wouldn't accuse me of lying earlier, would you?

[Sir Tigger KC]

He said he wasn't going to invade Ukraine, that was a bit of a porky 

That's why he deliberately termed the incursion as a Special Military Operation

So you admit he is a liar then? 

Semantics.

An invasion supposes a complete intention to take over a country. This was an operation to expel the Ukrainian forces from the Donbass regions that had declared independence and had been recognised by the Russian parliament.

If what you say is correct, why did they attack Kiev, which is nowhere near the Donbass at the start of the invasion? 

Why have they deliberately targeted civilian targets including blocks of flats and energy infrastructure all over Ukraine including Lviv in the West? 

Bucha? Irpin? Those places are not in the Donbass. 

The truth is that Putin planned to occupy the whole of Ukraine, but massively overestimated the Russian Army's capabilities, massively underestimated the Armed Forces of Ukraine and didn't count on the billions of dollars worth of modern weaponry and training provided by the West.

In any event, did either you or STEMO actually watch the whole interview?   

Yep and I wouldn't really call it an interview to be honest, more like a monologue with the occasional interjection from the cackling Carlson. 

Where were the searching questions about Bucha, Irpin, the sinking of the Moskva, the liberation of Kherson, the 300,000 young Russian men he's sent to their deaths, the targeting of civilians, the kidnapping of Ukrainian children etc etc 

We got a bizarre history lesson and Putin claiming that Russia is Europe's number one economy.... 

I did chuckle at Carlson's frequent WTF expression though. 

[Varche]

Defending the indefensible.

One mans personal totally unwarranted crusade is responsible for the direct deaths of a lot of people, untold misery and suffering in his motherland and that of Ukraine plus the impoverishment of millions of us in Europe oh and in Russia. That latter fact doesn’t  seem to be important and why would it in a state of mega rich Putin toe sucking oligarchs and the plebs. Spending something like 30% ofGDP on weaponry does not enhance Joseph Blogs situation one jot, just makes it worse.

Carlson was pathetic, that wasn’t journalism. Might as well have had Alexa doing the interview. It would have been cheaper too.

[STEMO]

He said he wasn't going to invade Ukraine, that was a bit of a porky 

That's why he deliberately termed the incursion as a Special Military Operation

So you admit he is a liar then? 

Semantics.

An invasion supposes a complete intention to take over a country. This was an operation to expel the Ukrainian forces from the Donbass regions that had declared independence and had been recognised by the Russian parliament.

In any event, did either you or STEMO actually watch the whole interview?

I didn't watch one minute of it, nor do I have any intention of. I don't see the point of even discussing the situation on a forum such as this, I merely demonstrated that Putin was a liar, hardly a revelation.
The course of events will not be influenced by sycophantic interviews or discussions on forums. Pointless, ill informed debate seems to be a late night topic both on tv and various social media channels but, in the end, if it goes off, we'll all burn together. In the meantime, I'll try to enjoy my day 

[Rangie]

He said he wasn't going to invade Ukraine, that was a bit of a porky 

That's why he deliberately termed the incursion as a Special Military Operation

So you admit he is a liar then? 

Semantics.

An invasion supposes a complete intention to take over a country. This was an operation to expel the Ukrainian forces from the Donbass regions that had declared independence and had been recognised by the Russian parliament.

In any event, did either you or STEMO actually watch the whole interview?

I didn't watch one minute of it, nor do I have any intention of. I don't see the point of even discussing the situation on a forum such as this, I merely demonstrated that Putin was a liar, hardly a revelation.
The course of events will not be influenced by sycophantic interviews or discussions on forums. Pointless, ill informed debate seems to be a late night topic both on tv and various social media channels but, in the end, if it goes off, we'll all burn together. In the meantime, I'll try to enjoy my day 

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Common sense seems to come through with folk our age Steve I'm with you 100 percent 👍

[Varche]

Enjoy the day ? 👍

Agreed. Today we are in Cartagena. Lots of Roman stuff to look at. Another castle off the 20,000 to go at. Might have a boat trip around the harbour ( Spanish Med naval base)  Monkfish, prawns and clam “ stew”  later. Nice sunny warm day

Nice day to vapourise!

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

This interview was more of a 'cosy chat' really, so therefore a missed opportunity.

Think Oprah and the interview with that Markle woman and the ginger prat.

[Olympia5776]

He said he wasn't going to invade Ukraine, that was a bit of a porky 

That's why he deliberately termed the incursion as a Special Military Operation, as he answered a request for help from the Russian-speaking populations of Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts who had suffered 14,000 deaths from bombing by Kiev between 2014 and 2021.

Talking of lies, declassified documents show security assurances against NATO expansion to given to Soviet leaders [following German reunification] from Baker, Bush, Genscher, Kohl, Gates, Mitterrand, Thatcher, Hurd, Major, and Woerner. That collective lie led to all this.

Oh, and the Minsk 1 and Minsk 2 Accords (which would have kept Ukraine intact) were guaranteed by France and Germany but they later admitted that they had no intention of honouring the Accords. So they effectively lied.

And, of course, following the initial incursion by 70,000 Russian troops, Ukraine initialed the Istanbul Agreement which, again, would have kept Ukraine intact. As part of that, Russia agreed as a goodwill gesture to withdraw troops from Kiev. Unfortunately, Johnson flew to Kiev and told Zelensky not to sign, but to fight Russia instead. Very bad move.

Had the Minsk Accords and the Istanbul Agreement been honoured, Donbass would have remained part of Ukraine, albeit with autonomy governing language, religion etc.

In a little mitigation, Zelensky has been under pressure from the Nazi element within Western Ukrainian society. These openly display the Nazi salute and have tattoos of Hitler and the Waffen SS.

My late parents both served in WW2 against Nazism. I honour their memory by similarly opposing Nazism in Ukraine.

You won't find all that on the BBC.

However, in 2015 (following the coup of 2014), Consortium News reported: "The U.S. House of Representatives has admitted an ugly truth that the U.S. mainstream media has tried to hide from the American people that the post-coup regime in Ukraine has relied heavily on Nazi storm troopers to carry out its bloody war against ethnic Russians, reports Robert Parry."


https://consortiumnews.com/2015/06/12/u-s-house-admits-nazi-role-in-ukraine/   

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This , Gentlemen, is a superb example of how a tyranical ,authoritarian administration successfully operates it's propaganda machine .
Single source deeply biased information spoon fed to a corraled , subservient and intimidated populace , who understand the consequences if they openly question what they have to believe .
It's nigh on impossible for us in the free West to understand the inward almost incestuous vision of those that has been implanted and then exploited by the russian elite for decades .
In some very slight way , I have sympathy for them because if you are spoon fed excreta every day steak may taste awful.
The author of this diatribe above is well known to the forum for his pro russian views and sympathies .
On at least two occasions he has proudly announced living with his russian wife and family surrounded by russian friends so his deeply flawed and frankly nausiating portrayel of the events surrounding putin's invasion of a sovereign state are quite understandable and traceable to their source(s) ......
I ceased engaging with him on this subject some time ago simply due to the fact that you will never persuade or convert  an indoctrinated fool with three paragraphs on an Internet forum.
In a perverse way  welcome his bizzare musings as it boosts my belief that russians are full of self importance , have a state cultivated arrogance in their perceived place in the civilised world and warmly envelope themselves in a slavish relationship with who ever holds the reigns of power in their deeply flawed and corrupt administration.
I often ponder if Jens Stolenburg said " Look , just stay within the confines of your sordid , primitive and unsophisticated country and clip your talons of covert involvement in Soverign states  and we will ignore you ." if it would in any slight way let them understand what we all really feel about them.
That stage managed "interview " was an affront to any person with the ability to listen , consider , fact check and conclude .

And yes , I did watch it .

[Doctor Gollum]

That all may be well and true, but... the interview, or at least the very fact it took place, is a significant event if not quite an historic one.

Such an interview with such an individual is always going to be conditional. It does however show that Putin is prepared to have some form of dialogue and that has to be significant even if you have to take the contents and context with a pinch of salt. Everything he said took place can readily be fact checked.

Comparing it to an Oprah interview with a pair of washed up wannabe celebrities trying to sell books is to do it a disservice. Ok, it wasn't so much an 'interview' as an opportunity for Putin to say his piece without tabloid interference or political bias. In this day and age, that isn't a bad thing.

The last American that Putin spoke to was probably Donald Trump. And yes it's easy to tow the narrative about whom he spoke to and why, at least there was formal conversations had on a regular basis... Keep your enemies close and all that.

[Olympia5776]

That all may be well and true, but... the interview, or at least the very fact it took place, is a significant event if not quite an historic one.

Such an interview with such an individual is always going to be conditional. It does however show that Putin is prepared to have some form of dialogue and that has to be significant even if you have to take the contents and context with a pinch of salt. Everything he said took place can readily be fact checked.

Comparing it to an Oprah interview with a pair of washed up wannabe celebrities trying to sell books is to do it a disservice. Ok, it wasn't so much an 'interview' as an opportunity for Putin to say his piece without tabloid interference or political bias. In this day and age, that isn't a bad thing.

The last American that Putin spoke to was probably Donald Trump. And yes it's easy to tow the narrative about whom he spoke to and why, at least there was formal conversations had on a regular basis... Keep your enemies close and all that.

I think you meant monologue .
There was no , none , zero significance in the event it was an orchestrated appearance of a man seeking to portray himself as a worthy strong leader to an enslaved and brainwashed populace in the run up to a travesty of an election and Carlson realised that soon after it started , there was no scoop ......

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

That all may be well and true, but... the interview, or at least the very fact it took place, is a significant event if not quite an historic one.

Such an interview with such an individual is always going to be conditional. It does however show that Putin is prepared to have some form of dialogue and that has to be significant even if you have to take the contents and context with a pinch of salt. Everything he said took place can readily be fact checked.

Comparing it to an Oprah interview with a pair of washed up wannabe celebrities trying to sell books is to do it a disservice. Ok, it wasn't so much an 'interview' as an opportunity for Putin to say his piece without tabloid interference or political bias. In this day and age, that isn't a bad thing.

The last American that Putin spoke to was probably Donald Trump. And yes it's easy to tow the narrative about whom he spoke to and why, at least there was formal conversations had on a regular basis... Keep your enemies close and all that.

I think you meant monologue .
There was no , none , zero significance in the event it was an orchestrated appearance of a man seeking to portray himself as a worthy strong leader to an enslaved and brainwashed populace in the run up to a travesty of an election and Carlson realised that soon after it started , there was no scoop ......

I agree.

The push back from TC just wasn't there.

[Migalot]

The author of this diatribe above is well known to the forum for his pro russian views and sympathies .
On at least two occasions he has proudly announced living with his russian wife and family surrounded by russian friends so his deeply flawed and frankly nausiating portrayel of the events surrounding putin's invasion of a sovereign state are quite understandable and traceable to their source(s) ......
I ceased engaging with him on this subject some time ago simply due to the fact that you will never persuade or convert  an indoctrinated fool with three paragraphs on an Internet forum.
And yes , I did watch it .

LIAR!

My wife is not Russian and I never claimed she was.

I'm not indoctrinated, but I could suggest you are.

 

[Sir Tigger KC]

That all may be well and true, but... the interview, or at least the very fact it took place, is a significant event if not quite an historic one.

Such an interview with such an individual is always going to be conditional. It does however show that Putin is prepared to have some form of dialogue and that has to be significant even if you have to take the contents and context with a pinch of salt. Everything he said took place can readily be fact checked.

Comparing it to an Oprah interview with a pair of washed up wannabe celebrities trying to sell books is to do it a disservice. Ok, it wasn't so much an 'interview' as an opportunity for Putin to say his piece without tabloid interference or political bias. In this day and age, that isn't a bad thing.

The last American that Putin spoke to was probably Donald Trump. And yes it's easy to tow the narrative about whom he spoke to and why, at least there was formal conversations had on a regular basis... Keep your enemies close and all that.

He only agreed to be 'interviewed' by Tucker Carlson because he knew it would be a soft interview given Carlson's well known views on Ukraine. 

I'm no fan of the BBC, but their man in Moscow, Steve Rosenberg, has apparently had several requests for an interview with Putin turned down and he speaks Russian fluently as well. CNN's Christiane Amanpour, similarly has also had requests for interviews denied by the Kremlin.

It says much about Putin that he is not willing to be interviewed by experienced and respected journalists who might ask difficult questions. 

[Migalot]

I am not "pro-Russian" per se. I am, however, against Nazism and the antics of the WEF, the US Military Industrial Complex, the bought-and-paid-for mainstream media and now, sadly, NATO.

I am in favour of free speech, mature discussion and diplomacy.

Finally, I am against the intentional killing of civilians, whether in Gaza or Belgorod.

Few of you would ever watch alternative views.

If anyone has an open mind, though, I heartily recommend this discussion between an Englishman and an Irishman.

https://rumble.com/v4ckn2l-the-irishman-in-russia-chay-bowes.html

[Doctor Gollum]

The author of this diatribe above is well known to the forum for his pro russian views and sympathies .
On at least two occasions he has proudly announced living with his russian wife and family surrounded by russian friends so his deeply flawed and frankly nausiating portrayel of the events surrounding putin's invasion of a sovereign state are quite understandable and traceable to their source(s) ......
I ceased engaging with him on this subject some time ago simply due to the fact that you will never persuade or convert  an indoctrinated fool with three paragraphs on an Internet forum.
And yes , I did watch it .

LIAR!

My wife is not Russian and I never claimed she was.

I'm not indoctrinated, but I could suggest you are.

 

Well that escalated quickly...

I believe that was a reference to Rods2 a resident of Hants/Berks bordershire whose wife is/was most very much Ukrainian.

[Doctor Gollum]

It could be argued that Putin simply wanted to speak his piece rather than participate in an actual interview. The event was clearly orchestrated to serve a purpose. If that makes Tucker his patsy, so be it but why shouldn't it be taken on face value? After all just because one perspective is different to another, it doesn't make either perspective any more or less valid.

[Migalot]

Candace Owens (she's wonderful!  ) rightly points out the cultural Marxism that's driving the US now. Endless war and history scrapped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BdtMv-vyn0

 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Finally, I am against the intentional killing of civilians, whether in Gaza or Belgorod.

How about the intentional killing of civilians in Kiev, Kharkiv, Mariupol, Kherson, Melitopol, Zaporizhzhia, Dnipro, Mykolaiv, Odessa, Lviv, Bucha, Irpin, Bakhmut, Donetsk, Luhansk, etc etc?   

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Candace Owens (she's wonderful!  ) rightly points out the cultural Marxism that's driving the US now. Endless war and history scrapped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BdtMv-vyn0

 

I like Candace and mostly agree with her 90% of the time.

However, when she strays into abortion and religion she loses me.

[STEMO]

Finally, I am against the intentional killing of civilians, whether in Gaza or Belgorod.

How about the intentional killing of civilians in Kiev, Kharkiv, Mariupol, Kherson, Melitopol, Zaporizhzhia, Dnipro, Mykolaiv, Odessa, Lviv, Bucha, Irpin, Bakhmut, Donetsk, Luhansk, etc etc?   

They don't count, they're nazis 

[STEMO]

Plus, you forgot all of the ones who were poisoned or fell out of windows in mother russia.

[STEMO]

And quite a few in Chechnya.

[STEMO]

And Israel, if we're including Gaza.

[Sir Tigger KC]

And quite a few in Chechnya.

Ah yes the approximately 250,000 civilians killed and the destruction of Grozny at the hands of one Vladimir Putin...

[STEMO]

And quite a few in Chechnya.

Ah yes the approximately 250,000 civilians killed and the destruction of Grozny at the hands of one Vladimir Putin...

He said he didn't do it, and he never lies 

[Sir Tigger KC]

And quite a few in Chechnya.

Ah yes the approximately 250,000 civilians killed and the destruction of Grozny at the hands of one Vladimir Putin...

He said he didn't do it, and he never lies 

They were probably Nazis anyway.  Untermensch. 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Oh we forgot Putin and his Russian forces indiscriminately and intentionally killing civilians in Syria. The destruction of Aleppo being the prime example.

[Doctor Gollum]

Oh we forgot Putin and his Russian forces indiscriminately and intentionally killing civilians in Syria. The destruction of Aleppo being the prime example.

Credit where it's due, Obama wasn't exactly Mother Theresa.

And the dark continent has been killing, enslaving and selling it's soul since the dawn of time.

[STEMO]

Oh we forgot Putin and his Russian forces indiscriminately and intentionally killing civilians in Syria. The destruction of Aleppo being the prime example.

Credit where it's due, Obama wasn't exactly Mother Theresa.

And the dark continent has been killing, enslaving and selling it's soul since the dawn of time.

There's that shite again. Get a blow up doll 

[Doctor Gollum]

Oh we forgot Putin and his Russian forces indiscriminately and intentionally killing civilians in Syria. The destruction of Aleppo being the prime example.

Credit where it's due, Obama wasn't exactly Mother Theresa.

And the dark continent has been killing, enslaving and selling it's soul since the dawn of time.

There's that shite again. Get a blow up doll 

No need. But thanks for the concern.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Oh we forgot Putin and his Russian forces indiscriminately and intentionally killing civilians in Syria. The destruction of Aleppo being the prime example.

Credit where it's due, Obama wasn't exactly Mother Theresa.

And the dark continent has been killing, enslaving and selling it's soul since the dawn of time.

You can deflect with your whataboutry if you like, but we're just pointing out to you Putin fanboys what an evil lying murderous bastard he is. 

[Doctor Gollum]

Oh we forgot Putin and his Russian forces indiscriminately and intentionally killing civilians in Syria. The destruction of Aleppo being the prime example.

Credit where it's due, Obama wasn't exactly Mother Theresa.

And the dark continent has been killing, enslaving and selling it's soul since the dawn of time.

You can deflect with your whataboutry if you like, but we're just pointing out to you Putin fanboys what an evil lying murderous bastard he is. 

I don't recall ever saying that he isn't.