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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: 2011venator on 15 September 2019, 16:36:33

Title: Auto Box Park
Post by: 2011venator on 15 September 2019, 16:36:33
Hello all with my Omega Auto box in park the car still rolls forward surely the gearbox should lock it up.
I looked in the owners handbook and it says the front wheels should lock when in park, they must surely mean the back wheels?
Either way mine is not working hence why I did the handbrake adjustment.
Is this normal?
Title: Re: Auto Box Park
Post by: dave the builder on 15 September 2019, 16:40:55
The rear wheels should lock when in park ,there is a park pawl that locks the auto box  :y
Title: Re: Auto Box Park
Post by: Shackeng on 15 September 2019, 17:48:20
Hello all with my Omega Auto box in park the car still rolls forward surely the gearbox should lock it up.
I looked in the owners handbook and it says the front wheels should lock when in park, they must surely mean the back wheels?
Either way mine is not working hence why I did the handbrake adjustment.
Is this normal?

I must read mine sometime. :-\ :y
Title: Re: Auto Box Park
Post by: 2011venator on 15 September 2019, 18:04:33
The rear wheels should lock when in park ,there is a park pawl that locks the auto box  :y

I reckon 'Paul' (pawl) must be on strike then as he is not locking my wheels, would low oil level cause this as I have had a leak.
 ::)
Title: Re: Auto Box Park
Post by: 2011venator on 15 September 2019, 18:07:04
Is this the sort of thing?
https://auto.howstuffworks.com/automatic-transmission11.htm
Title: Re: Auto Box Park
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 15 September 2019, 18:07:39
Im pretty sure the only thing that could cause this is if the locking pawl has broken off. If its floating around inside the box, start ooking for another box or car.
Title: Re: Auto Box Park
Post by: Andy B on 15 September 2019, 18:09:17
Hello all with my Omega Auto box in park the car still rolls forward surely the gearbox should lock it up. ....

When you say rolls forward, do you mean it will continue to roll or roll slightly before coming to a sudden stop  :-\
Title: Re: Auto Box Park
Post by: dave the builder on 15 September 2019, 18:18:29
The rear wheels should lock when in park ,there is a park pawl that locks the auto box  :y

I reckon 'Paul' (pawl) must be on strike then as he is not locking my wheels, would low oil level cause this as I have had a leak.
 ::)
No, the pawl is like a metal key that snaps off if abused
so use your handbrake ,even if your park pawl was working use the handbrake
if you don't it will seize up
Title: Re: Auto Box Park
Post by: STEMO on 15 September 2019, 18:43:43
The rear wheels should lock when in park ,there is a park pawl that locks the auto box  :y

I reckon 'Paul' (pawl) must be on strike then as he is not locking my wheels, would low oil level cause this as I have had a leak.
 ::)
No, the pawl is like a metal key that snaps off if a white transit reverses into your omega,
so use your handbrake ,even if your park pawl was working use the handbrake
if you don't it will seize up
Yep
Title: Re: Auto Box Park
Post by: dave the builder on 15 September 2019, 18:50:01
The rear wheels should lock when in park ,there is a park pawl that locks the auto box  :y

I reckon 'Paul' (pawl) must be on strike then as he is not locking my wheels, would low oil level cause this as I have had a leak.
 ::)
No, the pawl is like a metal key that snaps off if a C*** in a white VIVARO reverses into your omega,
so use your handbrake ,even if your park pawl was working use the handbrake
if you don't it will seize up
Yep
fixed your fix Uncle Stemo :y
Title: Re: Auto Box Park
Post by: STEMO on 15 September 2019, 18:51:15
The rear wheels should lock when in park ,there is a park pawl that locks the auto box  :y

I reckon 'Paul' (pawl) must be on strike then as he is not locking my wheels, would low oil level cause this as I have had a leak.
 ::)
No, the pawl is like a metal key that snaps off if a C*** in a white VIVARO reverses into your omega,
so use your handbrake ,even if your park pawl was working use the handbrake
if you don't it will seize up
Yep
fixed your fix Uncle Stemo :y
Thank you  ;D
Title: Re: Auto Box Park
Post by: Andy B on 15 September 2019, 19:39:22
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No, the pawl is like a metal key that snaps off if abused .....
but they will take some abuse before breaking


so use your handbrake ,even if your park pawl was working use the handbrake
if you don't it will seize up
so people say, but my hand/paring brake has really only been used for MOTs  ;) and I've yet to have one seize on my autos.  ::)
Title: Re: Auto Box Park
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 15 September 2019, 19:44:12
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No, the pawl is like a metal key that snaps off if abused .....
but they will take some abuse before breaking


so use your handbrake ,even if your park pawl was working use the handbrake
if you don't it will seize up
so people say, but my hand/paring brake has really only been used for MOTs  ;) and I've yet to have one seize on my autos.  ::)
Never owned a MK3 Granada then...  ;D
Title: Re: Auto Box Park
Post by: dave the builder on 15 September 2019, 19:48:19
It's another level of safety
like turning your wheel into the curb on a hill
Plus the OP's park pawl sounds shagged, so he needs to use the handbrake always  :D
Title: Re: Auto Box Park
Post by: Andy B on 15 September 2019, 20:01:40
....
Never owned a MK3 Granada then...  ;D

no  ;)
Title: Re: Auto Box Park
Post by: Andy B on 15 September 2019, 20:02:28
It's another level of safety
like turning your wheel into the curb on a hill
Plus the OP's park pawl sounds shagged, so he needs to use the handbrake always  :D

kerb  ::) Yanks have curbs  :-X
Title: Re: Auto Box Park
Post by: dave the builder on 15 September 2019, 20:09:20
It's another level of safety
like turning your wheel into the curb on a hill
Plus the OP's park pawl sounds shagged, so he needs to use the handbrake always  :D

kerb  ::) Yanks have curbs  :-X
Sorry Sir  :-[
shall I "write it out a hundred times.in letters ten feet tall"  :-\
Title: Re: Auto Box Park
Post by: Andy B on 15 September 2019, 20:20:11
.....
shall I "write it out a hundred times.in letters ten feet tall"  :-\

If you like .....  ::)

we should try to use English though & not American  :y
Title: Re: Auto Box Park
Post by: dave the builder on 15 September 2019, 20:24:14

we should try to use English though & not American  :y
100% agree
but I'm crap at spelling
Title: Re: Auto Box Park
Post by: Andy B on 15 September 2019, 20:26:44

we should try to use English though & not American  :y
100% agree
but I'm crap at spelling

I won't hold that against you ......  ;)
Title: Re: Auto Box Park
Post by: 2011venator on 16 September 2019, 19:35:08
Im pretty sure the only thing that could cause this is if the locking pawl has broken off. If its floating around inside the box, start ooking for another box or car.
Sounds scary hopefully it has worn down rather than snapped completely.
 
Title: Re: Auto Box Park
Post by: 2011venator on 16 September 2019, 19:38:52
Hello all with my Omega Auto box in park the car still rolls forward surely the gearbox should lock it up. ....

When you say rolls forward, do you mean it will continue to roll or roll slightly before coming to a sudden stop  :-\
With the car in park it is possible to push it forwards it feels a little like a manual that is in gear but easier. Hopefully Paul (pawl) has worn down rather than snapped and is not lurking inside the autobox waiting to do some serious damage which of course will happen on the longest trip I take in the old girl as sods law decrees