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My new Saab
« on: 29 October 2009, 19:05:36 »















Here is the business end of things  :D





Will get some better photo's when it's brighter outside  :y
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« Reply #1 on: 29 October 2009, 19:10:56 »

certainly looks prettier than the crappy beemer you had :y
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« Reply #2 on: 29 October 2009, 19:14:16 »

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« Reply #3 on: 29 October 2009, 19:57:55 »

easier to get to the turbo on that unlike the 2.3 turbo arghhhhhhh few scraped knuckles and fingers from doing that
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« Reply #4 on: 29 October 2009, 21:06:12 »

Holy smokes mate! that's a great car! Always wanted a turbo version of these ... how many horses it puts out?
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« Reply #5 on: 29 October 2009, 21:20:55 »

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Holy smokes mate! that's a great car! Always wanted a turbo version of these ... how many horses it puts out?

It's got standard of 250 BHP but this has had a superchip on it and has been on a rolling road is putting out 283 BHP on the sheet all through the front wheels, it's properly quick 0-62 standard is 6.3 secs I think and top speed is in excess of 160 after what i've been reading, did 70 mph in 2nd gear earlier though so it's no slow coach :o Will have to go to Germany and try it out  ;D

It's got 72k miles and has been up and down the motorway all day everyday, has millions of recipts for all work and full service history up to 70k miles so thats not due for a while  :D Also has lots of recipts for front tyres though and they're low now has a recipt for 2 new tyres only 6k miles ago :(
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« Reply #6 on: 29 October 2009, 22:50:07 »

Very smart indeed Del 8-) 8-) :y
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« Reply #7 on: 29 October 2009, 22:51:50 »

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Very smart indeed Del 8-) 8-) :y
Cheers mate  :y
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« Reply #8 on: 29 October 2009, 23:39:31 »

I need a short back and sides mate, how much? ;D ;D ;D :y
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« Reply #9 on: 29 October 2009, 23:42:30 »

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I need a short back and sides mate, how much? ;D ;D ;D :y
I dunno, I'll have to ask my sister she's the hairdresser of the family  :)
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« Reply #10 on: 30 October 2009, 07:55:34 »

very nice, always liked saabs, whats the mpg like on it?
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« Reply #11 on: 30 October 2009, 09:32:16 »

i like that quite a bit, very nice  :y
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« Reply #12 on: 30 October 2009, 09:56:18 »

Thats one nice car. :y
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« Reply #13 on: 30 October 2009, 14:29:09 »

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very nice, always liked saabs, whats the mpg like on it?

MPG was 33 MPG on the way back that was doing 85-90 all the way. Erm round town where it was to be honest thrashed as I was playing with it, was 12 MPG  :-[ Well put it this way had just under half a tank when I got in it, it was still above 1/4 of a tank when I got off the motorway, after a spirited drive it now says I have 21 miles until the tank is empty  ;D
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« Reply #14 on: 30 October 2009, 14:31:00 »

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very nice, always liked saabs, whats the mpg like on it?

MPG was 33 MPG on the way back that was doing 85-90 all the way. Erm round town where it was to be honest thrashed as I was playing with it, was 12 MPG  :-[ Well put it this way had just under half a tank when I got in it, it was still above 1/4 of a tank when I got off the motorway, after a spirited drive it now says I have 21 miles until the tank is empty  ;D

Damn thats good!
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« Reply #15 on: 30 October 2009, 14:40:17 »

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very nice, always liked saabs, whats the mpg like on it?

MPG was 33 MPG on the way back that was doing 85-90 all the way. Erm round town where it was to be honest thrashed as I was playing with it, was 12 MPG  :-[ Well put it this way had just under half a tank when I got in it, it was still above 1/4 of a tank when I got off the motorway, after a spirited drive it now says I have 21 miles until the tank is empty  ;D

Damn thats good!

Sure is mate would've been more if I had sat at 70 in 6th, put it this way at 60 MPH in 6th it was at about 1600 RPM  :) Will get soem better pics later, has had T-cut and polish and another polish today, cleaned exhausts so they're chrome again now (sounds amazing) and looks lovely  8-)
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very nice, always liked saabs, whats the mpg like on it?

MPG was 33 MPG on the way back that was doing 85-90 all the way. Erm round town where it was to be honest thrashed as I was playing with it, was 12 MPG  :-[ Well put it this way had just under half a tank when I got in it, it was still above 1/4 of a tank when I got off the motorway, after a spirited drive it now says I have 21 miles until the tank is empty  ;D

Damn thats good!

Sure is mate would've been more if I had sat at 70 in 6th, put it this way at 60 MPH in 6th it was at about 1600 RPM  :) Will get soem better pics later, has had T-cut and polish and another polish today, cleaned exhausts so they're chrome again now (sounds amazing) and looks lovely  8-)

I sat in a previous shape to that Aero and the seats were fantastic!
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MPG was 33 MPG on the way back that was doing 85-90 all the way. Erm round town where it was to be honest thrashed as I was playing with it, was 12 MPG  :-[ Well put it this way had just under half a tank when I got in it, it was still above 1/4 of a tank when I got off the motorway, after a spirited drive it now says I have 21 miles until the tank is empty  ;D

Damn thats good!

Sure is mate would've been more if I had sat at 70 in 6th, put it this way at 60 MPH in 6th it was at about 1600 RPM  :) Will get soem better pics later, has had T-cut and polish and another polish today, cleaned exhausts so they're chrome again now (sounds amazing) and looks lovely  8-)

I sat in a previous shape to that Aero and the seats were fantastic!
They are in here too, very very supportive and comfotable  :y
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« Reply #18 on: 31 October 2009, 02:26:56 »

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Holy smokes mate! that's a great car! Always wanted a turbo version of these ... how many horses it puts out?

It's got standard of 250 BHP but this has had a superchip on it and has been on a rolling road is putting out 283 BHP on the sheet all through the front wheels, it's properly quick 0-62 standard is 6.3 secs I think and top speed is in excess of 160 after what i've been reading, did 70 mph in 2nd gear earlier though so it's no slow coach :o Will have to go to Germany and try it out  ;D

It's got 72k miles and has been up and down the motorway all day everyday, has millions of recipts for all work and full service history up to 70k miles so thats not due for a while  :D Also has lots of recipts for front tyres though and they're low now has a recipt for 2 new tyres only 6k miles ago :(

THAT is definitely nice. Of course, cars like these MUST be treated to the Autobahn so the horses can work properly  :D  Now, regarding the mpg, nothing to be embarrassed about ... I get this kind of MPG almost everyday in my 3.0 v6 mig  :P ::) 

I think you might want to look at some tyres with a better wear index. Have a gander here:
http://www.tyre-shopper.co.uk/tyre-information.asp
http://www.tire-information-world.com/tire-treadwear.html

HTH
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« Reply #19 on: 31 October 2009, 10:40:50 »

Cheers for that Ziad mate  :y It'll be given some beans when it's taxed, will post up some better pics tonight or tomorrow as it's been polished etc now and inside had been given a clean  :y
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« Reply #20 on: 31 October 2009, 13:31:20 »

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.....looking forward to it Del   :y :y
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« Reply #21 on: 31 October 2009, 14:00:05 »

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Cheers for that Ziad mate  :y It'll be given some beans when it's taxed, will post up some better pics tonight or tomorrow as it's been polished etc now and inside had been given a clean  :y


.....looking forward to it Del   :y :y
Taxed and already to drive, don't ask how but it is  :y
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« Reply #22 on: 01 November 2009, 19:30:41 »

Nice car.. but too much hp for a fwd.. be careful mate :y
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« Reply #23 on: 01 November 2009, 19:33:47 »

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I always am, and straight line speed is just fantastic and 0-60 of 6.2 secs does me just fine  ;D
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« Reply #24 on: 13 November 2009, 19:24:20 »

Isnt that the same motor thats in the Omega...? 3.0L but with a turbocharger powered by the front bank?
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« Reply #25 on: 13 November 2009, 19:34:21 »

moved, as section clearly states Omega ;)
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« Reply #26 on: 13 November 2009, 20:16:22 »

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No its the GM global high feature V6 unit with a twin scroll turbo on and variable valve timing (an LP9 I think in the US). Think a couple of Cadillacs had them (SRX and BLS)




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« Reply #27 on: 13 November 2009, 21:35:27 »

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.....looking forward to it Del   :y :y
Taxed and already to drive, don't ask how but it is  :y

Great stuff Del!  :y
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Cheers for that Ziad mate  :y It'll be given some beans when it's taxed, will post up some better pics tonight or tomorrow as it's been polished etc now and inside had been given a clean  :y


.....looking forward to it Del   :y :y
Taxed and already to drive, don't ask how but it is  :y

Great stuff Del!  :y
Averaging 10.4 MPG  :( Put it this way used half a tank of fuel in 80 miles. But the power is soooo worth it  :D I will get more pics  :y
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« Reply #29 on: 29 January 2010, 19:31:20 »

Well it's going now, here's the difference:























As you can see it's much better now  ;D
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« Reply #30 on: 29 January 2010, 19:34:17 »

i do really really like that, dash is a bit dark though  :(

How are running costs? - The 2.8 is similar to the Vx Insignia lump is it not? Wonder how much of the parts needed for it can be got on Vx TC  :-/
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« Reply #31 on: 29 January 2010, 19:50:43 »

Same engine as used in the 2.8 Insignia, same engine as used in the Vectra VXR, it's the GM unit so basically every bit can be bought on Vauxhall TC. MPG on a motorway run recently, with cruise set at 90 MPH was 33.8 MPG.
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« Reply #32 on: 29 January 2010, 19:55:15 »

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I remember you saying same when you first got it, better than i get now  :o
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« Reply #33 on: 29 January 2010, 19:56:50 »

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Same engine as used in the 2.8 Insignia, same engine as used in the Vectra VXR, it's the GM unit so basically every bit can be bought on Vauxhall TC. MPG on a motorway run recently, with cruise set at 90 MPH was 33.8 MPG.

I remember you saying same when you first got it, better than i get now  :o
Buy it then  ;D Quick too 120 in 6th 3500 RPM 140 is achieved easy as anything too  :y
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« Reply #34 on: 29 January 2010, 20:07:23 »

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Same engine as used in the 2.8 Insignia, same engine as used in the Vectra VXR, it's the GM unit so basically every bit can be bought on Vauxhall TC. MPG on a motorway run recently, with cruise set at 90 MPH was 33.8 MPG.

I remember you saying same when you first got it, better than i get now  :o
Buy it then  ;D Quick too 120 in 6th 3500 RPM 140 is achieved easy as anything too  :y

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Same engine as used in the 2.8 Insignia, same engine as used in the Vectra VXR, it's the GM unit so basically every bit can be bought on Vauxhall TC. MPG on a motorway run recently, with cruise set at 90 MPH was 33.8 MPG.

I remember you saying same when you first got it, better than i get now  :o
Buy it then  ;D Quick too 120 in 6th 3500 RPM 140 is achieved easy as anything too  :y

Don't tempt me!
Everything you'll ever need, Speed, economy, comfort, 6 disk auto changer, rain sensor, xenons  ;D You know you wanna not a mark anywhere literally.
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« Reply #36 on: 29 January 2010, 20:17:29 »

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Same engine as used in the 2.8 Insignia, same engine as used in the Vectra VXR, it's the GM unit so basically every bit can be bought on Vauxhall TC. MPG on a motorway run recently, with cruise set at 90 MPH was 33.8 MPG.

I remember you saying same when you first got it, better than i get now  :o
Buy it then  ;D Quick too 120 in 6th 3500 RPM 140 is achieved easy as anything too  :y

Don't tempt me!
Everything you'll ever need, Speed, economy, comfort, 6 disk auto changer, rain sensor, xenons  ;D You know you wanna not a mark anywhere literally.

With my millage, going to run the 2.2 for a while yet i think, its worthless as it is. Might as well get my moneys worth out of it.  :)
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« Reply #37 on: 29 January 2010, 20:19:21 »

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Same engine as used in the 2.8 Insignia, same engine as used in the Vectra VXR, it's the GM unit so basically every bit can be bought on Vauxhall TC. MPG on a motorway run recently, with cruise set at 90 MPH was 33.8 MPG.

I remember you saying same when you first got it, better than i get now  :o
Buy it then  ;D Quick too 120 in 6th 3500 RPM 140 is achieved easy as anything too  :y

Don't tempt me!
Everything you'll ever need, Speed, economy, comfort, 6 disk auto changer, rain sensor, xenons  ;D You know you wanna not a mark anywhere literally.

With my millage, going to run the 2.2 for a while yet i think, its worthless as it is. Might as well get my moneys worth out of it.  :)
Dunno what you're missing, I can tell your tempted  ;D :y  :y
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Same engine as used in the 2.8 Insignia, same engine as used in the Vectra VXR, it's the GM unit so basically every bit can be bought on Vauxhall TC. MPG on a motorway run recently, with cruise set at 90 MPH was 33.8 MPG.

I remember you saying same when you first got it, better than i get now  :o
Buy it then  ;D Quick too 120 in 6th 3500 RPM 140 is achieved easy as anything too  :y

Don't tempt me!
Everything you'll ever need, Speed, economy, comfort, 6 disk auto changer, rain sensor, xenons  ;D You know you wanna not a mark anywhere literally.

With my millage, going to run the 2.2 for a while yet i think, its worthless as it is. Might as well get my moneys worth out of it.  :)
Dunno what you're missing, I can tell your tempted  ;D :y  :y

I am, but i really must keep my savings pot for a house  :(
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« Reply #39 on: 29 January 2010, 20:23:35 »

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Same engine as used in the 2.8 Insignia, same engine as used in the Vectra VXR, it's the GM unit so basically every bit can be bought on Vauxhall TC. MPG on a motorway run recently, with cruise set at 90 MPH was 33.8 MPG.

I remember you saying same when you first got it, better than i get now  :o
Buy it then  ;D Quick too 120 in 6th 3500 RPM 140 is achieved easy as anything too  :y

Don't tempt me!
Everything you'll ever need, Speed, economy, comfort, 6 disk auto changer, rain sensor, xenons  ;D You know you wanna not a mark anywhere literally.

With my millage, going to run the 2.2 for a while yet i think, its worthless as it is. Might as well get my moneys worth out of it.  :)
Dunno what you're missing, I can tell your tempted  ;D :y  :y

I am, but i really must keep my savings pot for a house  :(
And whats wrong with living at your mums & dads and having a lovely 2.8 Turbo on the drive   8-)  ;D
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« Reply #40 on: 29 January 2010, 20:38:02 »

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Same engine as used in the 2.8 Insignia, same engine as used in the Vectra VXR, it's the GM unit so basically every bit can be bought on Vauxhall TC. MPG on a motorway run recently, with cruise set at 90 MPH was 33.8 MPG.

I remember you saying same when you first got it, better than i get now  :o
Buy it then  ;D Quick too 120 in 6th 3500 RPM 140 is achieved easy as anything too  :y

Don't tempt me!
Everything you'll ever need, Speed, economy, comfort, 6 disk auto changer, rain sensor, xenons  ;D You know you wanna not a mark anywhere literally.

With my millage, going to run the 2.2 for a while yet i think, its worthless as it is. Might as well get my moneys worth out of it.  :)
Dunno what you're missing, I can tell your tempted  ;D :y  :y

I am, but i really must keep my savings pot for a house  :(
And whats wrong with living at your mums & dads and having a lovely 2.8 Turbo on the drive   8-)  ;D


But he wouldn't, he'd have your SAAB. :-/ ;D
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« Reply #41 on: 29 January 2010, 20:40:30 »

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Same engine as used in the 2.8 Insignia, same engine as used in the Vectra VXR, it's the GM unit so basically every bit can be bought on Vauxhall TC. MPG on a motorway run recently, with cruise set at 90 MPH was 33.8 MPG.

I remember you saying same when you first got it, better than i get now  :o
Buy it then  ;D Quick too 120 in 6th 3500 RPM 140 is achieved easy as anything too  :y

Don't tempt me!
Everything you'll ever need, Speed, economy, comfort, 6 disk auto changer, rain sensor, xenons  ;D You know you wanna not a mark anywhere literally.

With my millage, going to run the 2.2 for a while yet i think, its worthless as it is. Might as well get my moneys worth out of it.  :)
Dunno what you're missing, I can tell your tempted  ;D :y  :y

I am, but i really must keep my savings pot for a house  :(
And whats wrong with living at your mums & dads and having a lovely 2.8 Turbo on the drive   8-)  ;D


But he wouldn't, he'd have your SAAB. :-/ ;D
Hilarious you aren't  ;D :y
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« Reply #42 on: 29 January 2010, 20:41:00 »

 ;D ;D ;D :y
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« Reply #43 on: 31 January 2010, 19:25:48 »

Here's the original piccies not ebay copies 



































Hope they're detailed enough for you tunnie  :y :y
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« Reply #44 on: 31 January 2010, 19:36:44 »

stop posting them  >:(  ;D

Does look nice Del, good clear pictures.  :)
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« Reply #45 on: 31 January 2010, 19:39:12 »

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Does look nice Del, good clear pictures.  :)

Tempting you is it  ;D

Thanks, 1 bid and 48 watchers on ebay still 4 days yet, best buy it quick.
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Does look nice Del, good clear pictures.  :)

Tempting you is it  ;D

Thanks, 1 bid and 48 watchers on ebay still 4 days yet, best buy it quick.

If i was in need of a replacement car, would be extremely tempted  :)
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stop posting them  >:(  ;D

Does look nice Del, good clear pictures.  :)

Tempting you is it  ;D

Thanks, 1 bid and 48 watchers on ebay still 4 days yet, best buy it quick.

If i was in need of a replacement car, would be extremely tempted  :)
No need to wait  ;)
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Does look nice Del, good clear pictures.  :)

Tempting you is it  ;D

Thanks, 1 bid and 48 watchers on ebay still 4 days yet, best buy it quick.

If i was in need of a replacement car, would be extremely tempted  :)
No need to wait  ;)

Take £2k  ::)  ;D
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Does look nice Del, good clear pictures.  :)

Tempting you is it  ;D

Thanks, 1 bid and 48 watchers on ebay still 4 days yet, best buy it quick.

If i was in need of a replacement car, would be extremely tempted  :)
No need to wait  ;)

Take £2k  ::)  ;D
For the wheels yeah.
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Does look nice Del, good clear pictures.  :)

Tempting you is it  ;D

Thanks, 1 bid and 48 watchers on ebay still 4 days yet, best buy it quick.

If i was in need of a replacement car, would be extremely tempted  :)
No need to wait  ;)

Take £2k  ::)  ;D
For the wheels yeah.

Nah, whole car, they go for less than i thought  :o

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201003350567428/sort/priceasc/usedcars/model/9-3/make/saab/postcode/sn48js/radius/1501/keywords/aero/page/3?previous=%2Fsearch%2Fused%2Fcars%2Fsaab%2F9-3%2Fpostcode%2Fsn48js%2Fradius%2F1501%2Fkeywords%2Faero%2Fsort%2Fpriceasc%2Fpage%2F3&logcode=p
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« Reply #51 on: 31 January 2010, 20:57:01 »

03 - Old, 2.0T doesn't move.

Actually it's a great engine to be honest  :y
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Actually it's a great engine to be honest  :y

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/200951348547688/sort/priceasc/usedcars/model/9-3/make/saab/radius/1501/postcode/sn48js/keywords/aero%2C%20v6/page/1?previous=%2Fsearch%2Fused%2Fcars%2Fsaab%2F9-3%2Fpostcode%2Fsn48js%2Fradius%2F1501%2Fkeywords%2Faero%252C%2520v6%2Fsort%2Fpriceasc%2Fpage%2F1&logcode=p

They are growing on me  :)

£200 less than that you can have mine ok higher miles, but full history, newer plate, better colour, and more equipment and the all important 6 speed manual  :y
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« Reply #55 on: 31 January 2010, 21:48:31 »

Too old for me, dunno what is next going to look at a 530d tomorrow could buy there and then too  :D
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« Reply #56 on: 31 January 2010, 21:51:40 »

Check out Audi A8 3.0 TDi  :)
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Is imagine important? Come on we (except you  ;D) drive Omegas, so image is not exactly on our lists of must-haves  :)
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Is imagine important? Come on we (except you  ;D) drive Omegas, so image is not exactly on our lists of must-haves  :)
Yep image is very important  :y
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