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Title: Never knew about these
Post by: Rangie on 23 November 2021, 20:36:19
Went to visit friends in Oundle today noticed his neighbour had a lovely looking Audi in his drive it was a 5.0 Q8 never even knew they existed seen plenty of Q7s it certainly looked a nice vehicle.
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Viral_Jim on 23 November 2021, 20:49:32
Are they the big coupe/4x4/SUV thingy?

Not a class of car I've ever liked that much, but they seem very popular round our way so I must be in the minority  ;D
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Rangie on 23 November 2021, 21:00:00
Yes looks very big & purposeful.
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 24 November 2021, 14:27:32
Went to visit friends in Oundle today noticed his neighbour had a lovely looking Audi in his drive it was a 5.0 Q8 never even knew they existed seen plenty of Q7s it certainly looked a nice vehicle.

I think this is the 5 litre V10 Lambo lump.

Slightly detuned but should still be quick enough.
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 24 November 2021, 15:16:46
If only ;D It's the hateful 4.0 V8 with the turbos buried in the V and rear timing chains.

Modern Audis are best bought new and dumped before the factory warranty runs out.
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: STEMO on 24 November 2021, 15:34:44
There may be some confusion over the new trim level badging of these new Audis. 50 Q8 (or the other way round?) does not mean 5.0 litre, 50 is the trim level.
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Rangie on 24 November 2021, 15:41:40
There may be some confusion over the new trim level badging of these new Audis. 50 Q8 (or the other way round?) does not mean 5.0 litre, 50 is the trim level.



Seems a daft way to badge a vehicle, would never even consider an Audi as a purchase , but the stance & looks of this model looked impressive.
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: STEMO on 24 November 2021, 15:44:05
See if you're any the wiser after reading this, Mick:

https://www.allcarleasing.co.uk/blog/what-do-the-audi-engine-names-mean/
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Rangie on 24 November 2021, 15:48:12
Six cylinder 3.0 TDI disappointed 😟
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: STEMO on 24 November 2021, 15:56:28
Audi must have felt left out when comparing themselves to the alphabet soup that Mercedes use, so decided to confuse us with numbers instead.
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 24 November 2021, 16:22:50
Audi must have felt left out when comparing themselves to the alphabet soup that Mercedes use, so decided to confuse us with numbers instead.
Aka marketing wank.  :D

It obviously works though :-X
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 24 November 2021, 18:25:37
A mate had a Q7 and it was a nice car, but chewed tyres for a pastime.   ::)

A friend of his had one as well, which also ate tyres like it was going out of fashion apparently.  :-\
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 24 November 2021, 19:01:32
There may be some confusion over the new trim level badging of these new Audis. 50 Q8 (or the other way round?) does not mean 5.0 litre, 50 is the trim level.

I'm sure Audi use the Lambo V10 5.0 in something. ???

.....or did.
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Nick W on 24 November 2021, 19:09:01
A mate had a Q7 and it was a nice car, but chewed tyres for a pastime.   ::)

A friend of his had one as well, which also ate tyres like it was going out of fashion apparently.  :-\


Were they formerly Omega owners? ::)  Although Mercedes strut front ends kill tyres too
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: johnnydog on 24 November 2021, 20:39:00
There may be some confusion over the new trim level badging of these new Audis. 50 Q8 (or the other way round?) does not mean 5.0 litre, 50 is the trim level.

Doesn't the 50 relate to the KW power output of the engine? Audi dropped badging the engine litre size for the KW rating several years ago.
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: STEMO on 24 November 2021, 20:49:53
There may be some confusion over the new trim level badging of these new Audis. 50 Q8 (or the other way round?) does not mean 5.0 litre, 50 is the trim level.

Doesn't the 50 relate to the KW power output of the engine? Audi dropped badging the engine litre size for the KW rating several years ago.
Read the link I posted earlier. They might say it does, but it doesn't  ;D
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: STEMO on 24 November 2021, 20:57:42
I notice the fastest 0-62 is a diesel lump  :)
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 24 November 2021, 20:58:37
I notice the fastest 0-62 is a diesel lump  :)

You're pleased about that. ::)
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: STEMO on 24 November 2021, 20:59:13
I notice the fastest 0-62 is a diesel lump  :)

You're pleased about that. ::)
Hence the smiley  :)
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: STEMO on 24 November 2021, 21:01:44
When are Mercedes going to do a L class? They can badge their models LBGT, LBGTQ and LBGTQ+.
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Raeturbo on 25 November 2021, 01:09:43
 ;D
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 25 November 2021, 03:00:58
If I paid £65k for a car that only produced 50Kw, I would feel pretty short changed.

Not that I would be retarded enough to buy an Audi in the first place.  :-X
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: henryd on 25 November 2021, 11:26:15
There may be some confusion over the new trim level badging of these new Audis. 50 Q8 (or the other way round?) does not mean 5.0 litre, 50 is the trim level.

I'm sure Audi use the Lambo V10 5.0 in something. ???

.....or did.

The RS6 had the 5.0 V10 for a while :y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0M1Tn_FlzQ
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 25 November 2021, 12:50:08
A decent engine very poorly executed.
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: johnnydog on 25 November 2021, 13:18:44
There may be some confusion over the new trim level badging of these new Audis. 50 Q8 (or the other way round?) does not mean 5.0 litre, 50 is the trim level.

Doesn't the 50 relate to the KW power output of the engine? Audi dropped badging the engine litre size for the KW rating several years ago.
Read the link I posted earlier. They might say it does, but it doesn't  ;D

This very informative link suggests that trim levels are nothing to do with engine power output, although certain engines are only available with certain models and levels of trim, varying between entry level models upto and including S and RS models.

https://www.hippoleasing.co.uk/news/different-types-of-audi-cars/

And with regarding to the engne designation (bhp or kwH), this helps to explain Audis very confusing rear badging..

https://www.leasefetcher.co.uk/guides/car-technology/audi-engine-codes

So the trim levels and engine power outputs are different aspects of each model, and don't go hand in hand.

So much easier with the previous 1.2TFSI, 1.6, 2.0 TFSI, and 2.0 TDi or 3.0 TDi, 4.2 V8 etc etc ::)
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 25 November 2021, 13:23:23
If I paid £65k for a car that only produced 50Kw, I would feel pretty short changed.

Not that I would be retarded enough to buy an Audi in the first place.  :-X

How much is this in old money, Al?
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Viral_Jim on 25 November 2021, 13:27:51
There may be some confusion over the new trim level badging of these new Audis. 50 Q8 (or the other way round?) does not mean 5.0 litre, 50 is the trim level.

I'm sure Audi use the Lambo V10 5.0 in something. ???

.....or did.

The RS6 had the 5.0 V10 for a while :y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0M1Tn_FlzQ

Also the S6 & S8 IIRC. I think they also did a 6.0 v12 diesel in the q7 for a while, but obviously no one bought them.  ;D
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 25 November 2021, 13:32:25
There may be some confusion over the new trim level badging of these new Audis. 50 Q8 (or the other way round?) does not mean 5.0 litre, 50 is the trim level.

I'm sure Audi use the Lambo V10 5.0 in something. ???

.....or did.

The RS6 had the 5.0 V10 for a while :y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0M1Tn_FlzQ


Also the S6 & S8 IIRC. I think they also did a 6.0 v12 diesel in the q7 for a while, but obviously no one bought them.  ;D

Was the RS6 ever fitted with a 10 cylinder lump as standard?.......I'm not sure it was. ??? ???

The R8 V10 was.
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 25 November 2021, 14:01:16
If I paid £65k for a car that only produced 50Kw, I would feel pretty short changed.

Not that I would be retarded enough to buy an Audi in the first place.  :-X

How much is this in old money, Al?
About 77bhp ;D
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: YZ250 on 25 November 2021, 14:03:56
There may be some confusion over the new trim level badging of these new Audis. 50 Q8 (or the other way round?) does not mean 5.0 litre, 50 is the trim level.

I'm sure Audi use the Lambo V10 5.0 in something. ???

.....or did.

The RS6 had the 5.0 V10 for a while :y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0M1Tn_FlzQ


Also the S6 & S8 IIRC. I think they also did a 6.0 v12 diesel in the q7 for a while, but obviously no one bought them.  ;D

Was the RS6 ever fitted with a 10 cylinder lump as standard?.......I'm not sure it was. ??? ???

The R8 V10 was.

As said above, the 5.0 V10 was fitted in the RS6 C6 model year.  :y
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 25 November 2021, 14:19:41
There may be some confusion over the new trim level badging of these new Audis. 50 Q8 (or the other way round?) does not mean 5.0 litre, 50 is the trim level.

I'm sure Audi use the Lambo V10 5.0 in something. ???

.....or did.

The RS6 had the 5.0 V10 for a while :y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0M1Tn_FlzQ

Also the S6 & S8 IIRC. I think they also did a 6.0 v12 diesel in the q7 for a while, but obviously no one bought them.  ;D
Four chains, presumably at the back of the engine, with three piece heads to stop it grenading itself.  :D
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: STEMO on 25 November 2021, 14:38:04
There may be some confusion over the new trim level badging of these new Audis. 50 Q8 (or the other way round?) does not mean 5.0 litre, 50 is the trim level.

Doesn't the 50 relate to the KW power output of the engine? Audi dropped badging the engine litre size for the KW rating several years ago.
Read the link I posted earlier. They might say it does, but it doesn't  ;D

This very informative link suggests that trim levels are nothing to do with engine power output, although certain engines are only available with certain models and levels of trim, varying between entry level models upto and including S and RS models.

https://www.hippoleasing.co.uk/news/different-types-of-audi-cars/

And with regarding to the engne designation (bhp or kwH), this helps to explain Audis very confusing rear badging..

https://www.leasefetcher.co.uk/guides/car-technology/audi-engine-codes

So the trim levels and engine power outputs are different aspects of each model, and don't go hand in hand.

So much easier with the previous 1.2TFSI, 1.6, 2.0 TFSI, and 2.0 TDi or 3.0 TDi, 4.2 V8 etc etc ::)
If only someone had posted an almost identical link yesterday, eh?
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 25 November 2021, 14:42:19
 ;D
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 25 November 2021, 15:15:18
If I paid £65k for a car that only produced 50Kw, I would feel pretty short changed.

Not that I would be retarded enough to buy an Audi in the first place.  :-X

How much is this in old money, Al?
About 77bhp ;D

My brain only works in BHP and LB FT  ( or is it FT LB? ::))

Can't deal with PS....newton metres, or KW.
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Nick W on 25 November 2021, 16:38:48
If I paid £65k for a car that only produced 50Kw, I would feel pretty short changed.

Not that I would be retarded enough to buy an Audi in the first place.  :-X

How much is this in old money, Al?
About 77bhp ;D

My brain only works in BHP and LB FT  ( or is it FT LB? ::) )

Can't deal with PS....newton metres, or KW.


Lb/Ft and Ft/Lb are measuring different things. Which makes KW so much more sensible.


1Hp is about 0.75KW


PS is just one of several standards for how the number is derived.
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 25 November 2021, 17:04:55
No use dressing it up 50Kw isn't going to pull the skin off a 2.5t rice pudding  ;D
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 25 November 2021, 17:49:50
If I paid £65k for a car that only produced 50Kw, I would feel pretty short changed.

Not that I would be retarded enough to buy an Audi in the first place.  :-X

How much is this in old money, Al?
About 77bhp ;D

My brain only works in BHP and LB FT  ( or is it FT LB? ::))

Can't deal with PS....newton metres, or KW.

Do you insist on buying a pound of bananas and an ounce of coke as well M'lud?  :D
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: johnnydog on 25 November 2021, 23:13:14
There may be some confusion over the new trim level badging of these new Audis. 50 Q8 (or the other way round?) does not mean 5.0 litre, 50 is the trim level.

Doesn't the 50 relate to the KW power output of the engine? Audi dropped badging the engine litre size for the KW rating several years ago.
Read the link I posted earlier. They might say it does, but it doesn't  ;D

This very informative link suggests that trim levels are nothing to do with engine power output, although certain engines are only available with certain models and levels of trim, varying between entry level models upto and including S and RS models.

https://www.hippoleasing.co.uk/news/different-types-of-audi-cars/

And with regarding to the engne designation (bhp or kwH), this helps to explain Audis very confusing rear badging..

https://www.leasefetcher.co.uk/guides/car-technology/audi-engine-codes

So the trim levels and engine power outputs are different aspects of each model, and don't go hand in hand.

So much easier with the previous 1.2TFSI, 1.6, 2.0 TFSI, and 2.0 TDi or 3.0 TDi, 4.2 V8 etc etc ::)
If only someone had posted an almost identical link yesterday, eh?
True. But the original link was obviously confusing if 50 in the model designation was being confused  with the trim level...... ;D ::)
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Rangie on 26 November 2021, 07:45:45
Why can't it be simple 5.0 V8 would have meant something to me
the Ford Mustang makes it simple displaying that on the front wings , where as the disgusting 2.3 version has nothing, who would want a tiny engined Mustang anyhow ?  Could this start something..😂😂😂
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 26 November 2021, 11:00:08
The 2.3 turbo is quicker than the V8, so there's that. Oh and it's cheaper. And, carefully optioned, even looks like it...  ;D

The current one is an SUV, so a Mustang in name only.
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Nick W on 26 November 2021, 11:38:43
The 2.3 turbo is quicker than the V8, so there's that. Oh and it's cheaper. And, carefully optioned, even looks like it...  ;D

The current one is an SUV, so a Mustang in name only.


The performance difference makes me wonder why anyone would bother with the V8. Especially when you consider the price difference, although that is much less here. Mustangs have always been available with engines other than V8s, as they were cheap cars based on ordinary saloons. That were usually fitted with straight six or even four cylinder engines.


I saw a Mustang SUV yesterday, and it looks like somebody crashed a Focus into a Mustang and spent 10 minutes with a welder and big tub of filler.
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: henryd on 26 November 2021, 11:58:49
The 2.3 turbo is quicker than the V8, so there's that. Oh and it's cheaper. And, carefully optioned, even looks like it...  ;D

The current one is an SUV, so a Mustang in name only.

At the classic car show I had a ride for charity in a 5.0 mustang that had been played with, 860bhp with suspension and brake mods to suit. Performance was absolutely brutal and handling seemed pretty impressive too :y
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Raeturbo on 26 November 2021, 12:00:38
At 860 horsepower I’m not surprised  :o :y
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Rangie on 26 November 2021, 12:23:30
The 2.3 turbo is quicker than the V8, so there's that. Oh and it's cheaper. And, carefully optioned, even looks like it...  ;D

The current one is an SUV, so a Mustang in name only.

At the classic car show I had a ride for charity in a 5.0 mustang that had been played with, 860bhp with suspension and brake mods to suit. Performance was absolutely brutal and handling seemed pretty impressive too :y


That's exactly what I mean why bother with any thing less ..😁
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: henryd on 26 November 2021, 12:45:09
At 860 horsepower I’m not surprised  :o :y

Acceleration was quite uncomfortable to be honest, noise was superb 8)
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Rangie on 26 November 2021, 12:49:43
At 860 horsepower I’m not surprised  :o :y

Acceleration was quite uncomfortable to be honest, noise was superb 8)



One of our local pub owners near here has the Bullit version, looks & sounds superb.
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 26 November 2021, 13:22:53
For the money spent, a decent Challenger will do the same thing out of the box...
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 26 November 2021, 13:23:30
Actually, for that money a nice restomod will do the same thing with more class.
Title: Re: Never knew about these
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 26 November 2021, 14:12:52
The main reason Audi moved away from the traditional cc or power figures on the back of cars is branding, its doesn't look correct for the 'sporty' brand to have figures saying 1.0 3pot 110bhp pot on the back of an A3 (and there are many other examples of the same throughout the range)